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  1. #11
    Quote Originally Posted by bpa View Post
    The BBCiPlayer plugin from the plugins page is out of date (reasons are complicated why it is still there). If you get around to want to try BBciplayer you'll need to add an URL for a 3rd party repo for the working version of BBCiPlayer.
    Thanks for the reply @bpa, I've already added the 'BBC iPlayer (v3.1 alpha3)' plug in and it seems to be working OK, but the only glitch is that the images of the stations are missing.

    I noticed in the plug ins area there is also a listing for 'BBC iPlayer Extra'

    Are these two plug ins different from each other? Do the offer different functionality? Or is it a case of different developers but the plug ins do the same thing?

    Can you tell me how to get the correct most up to date plug in please?

  2. #12
    Quote Originally Posted by kidstypike View Post
    YMMV = your mileage may vary.

    In car gear is a Pi3B with a HifiBerry (HAT) DAC running pCP/LMS in AP mode.

    Power is from a battery pack, I use this one, but there may be better one's on the market that can be charged as you use them - https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

    USB Drive is this one - https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B06W55K9...ing=UTF8&psc=1

    This all fits in the centre console between the seats where there's a aux in to my car's stereo.

    AP mode sets up it's own wifi network, so you could connect your phone to this network and use iPeng to control LMS.

    My phone is on a dash mount.

    I only use it on long journey's and leave it powered up all day, as it's a bit of a faff waiting for it to boot up, connect phone, etc.. It's good to have all your music as FLAC's though. I can even add new music from the comfort of my study without having to disconnect the USB drive and bring it indoors.

    Ideal for taking to our holiday cottage, here's a picture of the setup in the cottage with a Boom.

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    Let me check if I understood you correctly, and let me know if this set-up would work

    So for me I would use a Pi Zero W as the 'brain'. Perhaps the Pi Zero isn't powerfully enough to act as the server/brain through?

    I would hook this up to this HAT DAC.

    To get power I would us a cigarette lighter to USB charger adapter and then connect this to a power bank/battery pack.

    Can I ask .... what function does the power bank server? Is it do you don't lose power to the device as soon as you switch the car off, then you can take the time to shut the system down properly rather than it 'crashing' when the car powers off? Or is it acting as some kind of buffer because it's bad to connect directly in to the car's electrical USB socket?

    Another question for you .... you mention you take this to your holiday cottage (great idea) I was planning on taking mine on holiday too, but I was just planning on unplugging the server part of my system. Does using your car pi for your holiday cottage serve any additional purpose? I can see how it might be useful in AP mode in case you get to a location and don't have access to a network or WiFi. But other than not needing a separate network / WiFi would there be any other benefits over taking your home server/client system with you? Hope that questions makes sense?

    Looking forward to hearing back from you. Thank you

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1uke_ View Post
    Thanks for the reply @bpa, I've already added the 'BBC iPlayer (v3.1 alpha3)' plug in and it seems to be working OK, but the only glitch is that the images of the stations are missing.

    I noticed in the plug ins area there is also a listing for 'BBC iPlayer Extra'

    Are these two plug ins different from each other? Do the offer different functionality? Or is it a case of different developers but the plug ins do the same thing?

    Can you tell me how to get the correct most up to date plug in please?
    Uninstall V1.3alpha3 - it only play live stream and even then can have problems. The BBCiPlayerExtra is also out of date.

    Add the following repo URL to the "additopnal rerspitories" at the bttom of the Settings/Plugins page and then click "Apply"

    http://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/bpaplugins/betarelease-repo.xml

    Once added - you should get 2 entries at bottom of page for BBCiplayer 1.5.* and BBCiPlayerExtra in a repository with a name somehting like "bpa's BBCiPlayer ...."

  4. #14
    Quote Originally Posted by bpa View Post
    Uninstall V1.3alpha3 - it only play live stream and even then can have problems. The BBCiPlayerExtra is also out of date.

    Add the following repo URL to the "additopnal rerspitories" at the bttom of the Settings/Plugins page and then click "Apply"

    http://downloads.sourceforge.net/pro...lease-repo.xml

    Once added - you should get 2 entries at bottom of page for BBCiplayer 1.5.* and BBCiPlayerExtra in a repository with a name somehting like "bpa's BBCiPlayer ...."

    Hello @bpa

    Thanks for showing me how to install the additional repository, I have the plug ins you suggested installed and they have the logos showing up correctly.

    I don't mean to be hostile, far from it, but I couldn't help noticing you are the developer for these plug ins? Are you sure you aren't just getting people to install your plug ins so they become more popular? Please excuse me for being sceptical .....

    With that said you do seem to be like the person to talk to about plug ins, could you recommend to me some other plug ins that are good to install to extend the functionality of the Logitech Music Server.

    Thank you in advance for your help

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1uke_ View Post
    I don't mean to be hostile, far from it, but I couldn't help noticing you are the developer for these plug ins? Are you sure you aren't just getting people to install your plug ins so they become more popular? Please excuse me for being sceptical .....
    I haven't heard that idea before - "to be more popular make it hard for users to load the plugin" a bit perverse. I gain nothing by having more users. Writing a plugin take time - supporting users takes way way more time and the more users the more time it takes. My free time is finite so it would be much easier for me just to keep a plugin to myself.

    The BBCiPlayer plugin was developed by Triode who suddenly dropped off the forum. He was a very significant contirbutor to LMS, Squeezeplay and plugin codebases. All I can assume there was a life changing event. The 1.3alpha3 was his last release from his repository and it only support HLS.. Since it was release, some users offered patches and then patches to the patches to keep it working. There is still an installed base of users with 1.3 . If I were to ask mherger to drop the 1.3 repo and put up my 1.5 as an upgrade - this would break many of the existing user of 1.3. (possibly none, possibly 1, possibly 100s) and I would have to support these users - who no doubt would be unhappy that their working system has suddenly been broken by me. So I would prefer a quiet life and let the 1.3 users migrate when they want to.

    The rationale for continued support for BBCiPlayer was that I daily use BBCiPlayer (and I worked with Triode on previous AlienBBC plugin) but the plugin only supports HLS and I had no reference HLS player. BBC then announced that DASH would be their preferred format in the future. So I incorporated patches, and wrote DASH support and released 1.4 and then 1.5 as beta plugin as BBC still say DASH support is beta. I do not support HLS format. DASH implementation had bugs and also BBC makes changes which means quick turnaround is needed - I can do this by making sure users go direct to my repository rather than having to wait for LMS main repository to be updated which can take a significant delay. Controlling my repository also allowed me to do special version such as Flac and spatial stereo support for last year Proms.

    With that said you do seem to be like the person to talk to about plug ins, could you recommend to me some other plug ins that are good to install to extend the functionality of the Logitech Music Server.
    Sorry, I only use a very small number of plugins - mainly mine.

    Rather than ask for recommendation or install lots of plugins which rarely get used, wait until you have a need than ask on the forum in a new topic to see if that need can be me. You could search the 3rd party forum for topics beginning "Announce" to see what plugin have been written but no guarantee they are still supported.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1uke_ View Post
    I don't mean to be hostile, far from it, but I couldn't help noticing you are the developer for these plug ins? Are you sure you aren't just getting people to install your plug ins so they become more popular? Please excuse me for being sceptical .....
    Hi. I don't develop plugins but have been using them on my squeezeboxes for a long time, and I assure you that the 3rd-party developers here are doing it neither for money (there isn't any) or ratings (there aren't any). I appreciate this might not be obvious if you've just come in from the world of apps, but it is the reality in this community. bpa in particular is a star for what he does.

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