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    Spotty on Rpi3 / Very slow

    So, I've set lms 7.9.1 on rpi3 (I've tried on raspbian, ubuntu mate, osmc, no difference).
    Added Spotty, which is ridiculously slow though.
    I have to wait 10 seconds between the songs (connecting... buffering... etc).
    Once it starts playing, there are no dropouts/hicks.
    Skipping to next song takes ages though.

    Network is ethernet and super fast, so there must be something else I'm missing.
    Hardware on rpi3 should be enough to run this easily, any ideas?

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    Spotty on Rpi3 / Very slow

    > Added Spotty, which is ridiculously slow though.

    You simply installed the plugin, didn't build it yourself?

    > I have to wait 10 seconds between the songs (connecting... buffering...
    > etc).


    This sounds like networking issues. I know, your connection is fast. But
    is your connection to Spotify, fast, too? Do you have any means to
    measure the data throughput to your Pi when it does buffer?

    > Hardware on rpi3 should be enough to run this easily, any ideas?


    It's what I'm running myself. It definitely is fast enough.

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    I have Spotty running on a Raspberry Pi3 with piCorePlayer/LMS7.9.1 and I find selecting albums, playlists, searching and so forth to be rather too slow to be usable. The Pi has a wired connection to the router, and download speed is generally pretty high. When playing, I don't see buffering, the problems are in slow browsing speed.

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    Spotty on Rpi3 / Very slow

    > I have Spotty running on a Raspberry Pi3 with piCorePlayer/LMS7.9.1 and
    > I find selecting albums, playlists, searching and so forth to be rather
    > too slow to be usable.


    That would be a different problem. But anyway: what do you consider "too
    slow"? How long does it take to eg. get Top Tracks, or New Releases?


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    Quote Originally Posted by mherger View Post
    > Added Spotty, which is ridiculously slow though.

    You simply installed the plugin, didn't build it yourself?

    > I have to wait 10 seconds between the songs (connecting... buffering...
    > etc).


    This sounds like networking issues. I know, your connection is fast. But
    is your connection to Spotify, fast, too? Do you have any means to
    measure the data throughput to your Pi when it does buffer?

    > Hardware on rpi3 should be enough to run this easily, any ideas?


    It's what I'm running myself. It definitely is fast enough.

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    Michael
    Installed the plugin, did not build it.

    Forgot to mention, when client is connected to Lms running on other machines, same network/internet access, everything is perfect. So there is something wrong with the pi. Maybe this double pcm/flac conversion is causing issues. I did not find anything hungry in resources though. Pi is running pretty much idle all the time.
    Skipping track is painful though, almost unusable.
    Too bad, the plugin is cool, nice work man.
    I've used it in other machines, rocks big time. Something wrong with the pi though, I'll keep searching.

    Do you have a guide for Lms installation on pi? Maybe some library missing/bad version?
    I've basically followed this one
    http://www.gerrelt.nl/RaspberryPi/wo...layer-for-bbq/

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by DJanGo View Post
    tbh - my old LMS was fitted with a better CPU and 2GB RAM running plain Debian.
    Picoreplayer run in the limited RAM so compare my old lms with your setup is pretty ...

    AFAIK ->You only get what you pay for..
    Very true, so I'm not to troubled. Actually, it's when browsing albums and artists that it seems very slow. Playlists is a bit snappier.

    Robert
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    PiCorePlayer(Pi2) with IQAudIO DAC+>Sennheisers
    2 x Squeezebox Radios, 1 X Squeezebox 3 (retired), spare Pi2/piCorePlayer
    Office: LMS7.9.2 running on WiFi MyPassport drive > piCorePlayer(PiB)/HiFiBerryDAC > Amptastic Amplifier
    SqueezePad, iPeng as controllers

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    Quote Originally Posted by philosopher View Post
    Installed the plugin, did not build it.

    Forgot to mention, when client is connected to Lms running on other machines, same network/internet access, everything is perfect. So there is something wrong with the pi. Maybe this double pcm/flac conversion is causing issues. I did not find anything hungry in resources though. Pi is running pretty much idle all the time.
    Skipping track is painful though, almost unusable.
    Too bad, the plugin is cool, nice work man.
    I've used it in other machines, rocks big time. Something wrong with the pi though, I'll keep searching.

    Do you have a guide for Lms installation on pi? Maybe some library missing/bad version?
    I've basically followed this one
    http://www.gerrelt.nl/RaspberryPi/wo...layer-for-bbq/

    Thanks
    I would just use max2play or picoreplayer. Much easier and lots of users in the forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by philosopher View Post

    Do you have a guide for Lms installation on pi? Maybe some library missing/bad version?
    I've basically followed this one
    http://www.gerrelt.nl/RaspberryPi/wo...layer-for-bbq/

    Thanks
    In what way "basically followed"?


    I have followed Gerrelt's blog for both LMS and Squeezelite installs on rpi3b without any problems.

    I have also, in the past, run the spotty app from LMS, trouble free. I don't, however, now listen to Spotify so can't comment on that.

    You should be aware that there may be a minor hiccup to be encountered when doing an update

    http://forums.slimdevices.com/showth...e-dpkg-failure

    You might want to follow the Wiki instructions for Debian installs of LMS (referenced in the above link).

    Ronnie

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    Quote Originally Posted by Man in a van View Post
    In what way "basically followed"?


    I have followed Gerrelt's blog for both LMS and Squeezelite installs on rpi3b without any problems.

    I have also, in the past, run the spotty app from LMS, trouble free. I don't, however, now listen to Spotify so can't comment on that.

    You should be aware that there may be a minor hiccup to be encountered when doing an update

    http://forums.slimdevices.com/showth...e-dpkg-failure

    You might want to follow the Wiki instructions for Debian installs of LMS (referenced in the above link).

    Ronnie
    The guide assumes no missing dependencies, but socket::ssl was missing, along with a bunch of dependencies, so I've resolved them with usual update -f.
    Thanks for the link for the deb pkgs, will check it.
    Will also try max2play, as mentioned above.

    General connection of rpi is good, I've ookled it with chromium.
    Can't imagine it has trouble connecting only to Spotify, given other lms installations in the network have no issues.
    Get's weird, really.

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