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  1. #11
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    Spotty on rp3 with pcp, running fine
    SqueezeBoxes: 2x SB2 (Living room and study), 1x Radio (Kitchen), 1x Boom (Dining room), 1x piCorePlayer (jacuzzi), 1x piCorePlayer (Garden) 1x OSMC + Squeezelite (Movie room), 1x Touch (Bedroom)
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    Sooooo, tried Max2play, works noticeably better, around 5 seconds between skips.
    Max2play does not seem to be my thing (how can I boot to console? lxde is awful), but anyway, I'll see if I can live with it.

    So, max2play performs better, why is that?
    Can anyone tell us what does the max2play automated installation run when installing squeezeboxserver?
    It obviously does something that standard .deb deployment procedure misses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by philosopher View Post
    Sooooo, tried Max2play, works noticeably better, around 5 seconds between skips.
    Max2play does not seem to be my thing (how can I boot to console? lxde is awful), but anyway, I'll see if I can live with it.

    So, max2play performs better, why is that?
    Can anyone tell us what does the max2play automated installation run when installing squeezeboxserver?
    It obviously does something that standard .deb deployment procedure misses.
    Are you saying that skipping to the next song takes 5 seconds? I use max2play and skipping has no delay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slartibartfast View Post
    Are you saying that skipping to the next song takes 5 seconds? I use max2play and skipping has no delay.

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    Yeap, that's what I'm saying.
    Happens with both squeezebox touch & squeezelite.
    Was 10 seconds with raspbian, so I should be happy now :/

    It will play a playlist just fine, when a song ends the next one loads immediately.
    But if you try to skip by hand, or choose a different playlist/song/whatever, you get the 5-6 second delay.

    Dunno really what's going on, with all you people claiming it works fine.
    Maybe a defect rpi? Though network is good, and other lms on local machines work perfect.

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    Try PiCore player its even faster than max2play much less overhead.
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    Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub.
    Bedroom/Office: Boom
    Kitchen: Touch + powered Fostex PM0.4
    Misc use: Radio (with battery)
    iPad1 with iPengHD & SqueezePad
    (spares Touch, SB3, reciever ,controller )
    server HP proliant micro server N36L with ClearOS Linux

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    Spotty on Rpi3 / Very slow

    > Happens with both squeezebox touch & squeezelite.
    > Was 10 seconds with raspbian, so I should be happy now :/


    Running on pCP behind a slowish 10Mbps connection a skip usually takes a
    bit more than one second here.

    > It will play a playlist just fine, when a song ends the next one loads
    > immediately.


    In this case LMS will start buffering about 10s before the playing track
    ends. Therefore you don't see the buffering.

    > But if you try to skip by hand, or choose a different
    > playlist/song/whatever, you get the 5-6 second delay.


    Yeah, that's too slow. You could disable the PCM -> FLAC transcoding to
    see whether this improves the situation?

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    I am running piCorePlayer on a wired Pi3 as a dedicated LMS with FLACs on a NAS via NFS.
    No issue with Spotty but I think I have found a limitation of the hardware.
    If I ask LMS (via the web interface) to display "Albums with small artwork" it kills playback until the search has completed.
    This is whether I am playing local FLACs or Spotify tracks.
    No big issue though as its a rare thing to do.
    VB2.4 storage QNAP TS419p (NFS)
    Living Room - Joggler & SB3 -> Onkyo TS606 -> Celestion F20s
    Office - Pi3+Sreen -> Sony TAFE320 -> Celestion F10s / Pi2+DAC & SB3 -> Onkyo CRN755 -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes
    Dining Room -> SB Boom
    Kitchen -> UE Radio (upgraded to SB Radio)
    Bedroom (Bedside) - Pi2+DAC ->ToppingTP21 ->AKG Headphones
    Bedroom (TV) - SB Touch ->Sherwood AVR ->Mordaunt Short M10s
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    Quote Originally Posted by d6jg View Post
    I am running piCorePlayer on a wired Pi3 as a dedicated LMS with FLACs on a NAS via NFS.
    No issue with Spotty but I think I have found a limitation of the hardware.
    If I ask LMS (via the web interface) to display "Albums with small artwork" it kills playback until the search has completed.
    This is whether I am playing local FLACs or Spotify tracks.
    No big issue though as its a rare thing to do.
    Make sure that items per page for the web-UI is the default 50 . Having 200 or so so that you can scroll a bit before selecting next page does have a performance impact .
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    Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub.
    Bedroom/Office: Boom
    Kitchen: Touch + powered Fostex PM0.4
    Misc use: Radio (with battery)
    iPad1 with iPengHD & SqueezePad
    (spares Touch, SB3, reciever ,controller )
    server HP proliant micro server N36L with ClearOS Linux

    http://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html

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    Spotty on Rpi3 / Very slow

    > Make sure that items per page for the web-UI is the default 50 . Having
    > 200 or so so that you can scroll a bit before selecting next page does
    > have a performance impact .


    And make sure you have decent storage media for your cache: when you're
    browsing albums LMS will have to read all the images from the cache. If
    you've got a cheap SD card, then this can be quite a bit of a bottleneck.

    Oh... this could actually be a bottleneck for Spotty, too. I think the
    helper is always storing the audio data temporarily to disk. By default
    this would be /tmp, but on some systems it's LMS' cache folder, as /tmp
    can be rather small.

    What kind of SD card are you using?

    Also make sure you enabled "high memory usage" for the database
    (unrelated to spotty).

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    Michael

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    Class 10 card. Items per page is 50.
    Cache is here



    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
    VB2.4 storage QNAP TS419p (NFS)
    Living Room - Joggler & SB3 -> Onkyo TS606 -> Celestion F20s
    Office - Pi3+Sreen -> Sony TAFE320 -> Celestion F10s / Pi2+DAC & SB3 -> Onkyo CRN755 -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes
    Dining Room -> SB Boom
    Kitchen -> UE Radio (upgraded to SB Radio)
    Bedroom (Bedside) - Pi2+DAC ->ToppingTP21 ->AKG Headphones
    Bedroom (TV) - SB Touch ->Sherwood AVR ->Mordaunt Short M10s
    Everything controlled by iPeng

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