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    Thanks for LMS - it is still by far the best.

    It seems to me to be time to share my thoughts on just how good LMS is.

    My own music library is mainly classical. With the help of Custom Browse, Custom Scan and Dynamic Playlist plugins I can find and play multi-movement classical Works in almost any way I can think of. Thanks to Erland I can have menus that, for instance, allow me to pick a recording of a particular Work by a specific Conductor in one year (I have several recordings by the same people, in different years, of particular Works). I can invent my own type of Artist, called a ‘Work Artist’ that is an artist common to all Movements in a Work, have a proper sort form of that tag, and select Works performed by that person (or by an Orchestra, Choir, etc.). I can assign ratings to Works and Movements and select Movements and/or Works within ranges of rating. I currently use 22 different such specialised classical menus. Using Multi Library I can arrange to use other types of menu for Pop, Speech and other types of track. I continue to enhance and improve the menus I use for all of this, probably doing things no one else has ever wanted to do – it’s all down to my imagination and ability with sql.

    Thanks to Erland again I can play random Works with different ratings, random Movements by a selected Conductor, and many other random variations.

    Thanks to Triode and bpa I can stream live and recent BBC (and sometimes other) radio programs round the house.

    If I want to stream from one of several major sources such as Spotify, Deezer, Tidal or Qobuz I can do that too.

    With Squeezelite, thanks to Triode and Ralphy, I can play music on my desktop or laptop with a USB DAC, and if and when I venture into Raspberry Pi land I could use that to replace my Logitech Touches. If I had a multi-speaker setup I could download DSDs and play those too.

    And not only all that, thanks to Philippe44 I can play my music on non-LMS devices that support UPnP, or via Chromecast. Not being an i-person I don’t use Airplay, but if I was, I could.

    Thanks to Gordon Harris I can control LMS with Server Power Control, letting me restart it from the web GUI, shut it down overnight after it finishes rescanning, reboot the server, perform other relevant commands on my headless server, and so on.

    I can control all of this from any desktop or laptop, or using my android mobile using one of several different ‘apps’ (hate that word…) and can play the music on the mobile as well. I can even do this via secure login when away from home and stream in lower-quality.

    And best of all, Michael holds it all together, adding useful features (eg. Additional Browse Modes and better searches) and moving LMS forward as fast as needs be with changes to the underlying platform software. Plus the community on this forum is always there to help me when I get lost or confused.

    I have, to date, found no other tool that can get anywhere close to the flexibility LMS affords me. Has anyone?

    LMS 7.9.1 on VortexBox Midi box, Xubuntu 17.10, FLACs 16->24 bit, 44.1->192kbps. Touch & EDO. 2nd Touch standard.
    LMS plugin UPnP/DLNA Bridge to MF M1 CLiC (to A308CR amp & ESLs) & Marantz CR603 UPnP renderers.
    Alternatively Minimserver & Upplay to same & to upmpdcli/mpd PC renderers.
    Squeezelite to Meridian USB Explorer DAC to PC speakers/headphones.
    Wireless Xubuntu 17.10 laptop firefox/upplay or Android 'phone with Squeeze-Commander/BubbleUPnP controls LMS/Minimserver.

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    Senior Member Recoveryone's Avatar
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    I have to agree with all the support from 3rd party actors/designers. I will put mine to the test this week when I add a Pioneer Elite N50 to the mix. The Squeezebox line has spoiled me over the years with its easy to read displays (Classic, Transporter) and now I have 6 Touches throughout the house. I know there are several other brands out there that may be better (DAC's), but the flexibility that the Slimdevice Family has built over the years still places their product as the one to compare to. So sad Logitech could not see forest for the trees.
    Pioneer Elite N50 main HT rig hardwired to router connected

    1st Touch Wirelessly connected (Master Bedroom)

    2nd Touch Wirelessly connected (bedroom)

    3rd Touch Wirelessly connected (bedroom)

    4th Touch Wirelessly connected (livingroom)

    5th Touch Wirelessly connected (downstairs bedroom)

    Server (In garage)
    running on Duo Core P4 3.0 GHz 8 gig ram
    Windows 7 pro 64 bit
    350 Xternal gigHD
    1.5 TB backup
    Verizon Fios wireless router w/HG antana

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    Well said, Tim! I don't have your requirements for classical music, but the combination of LMS and iPeng provides control over my music that's impossible to get with any other system. Not to mention being able to listen to the BBC to stay in touch with the old country, with the heroic efforts of bpa keeping it working for us.

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    The Pioneer Elite N50 came in today and hooked up flawlessly to my LMS, another kudos to Slimdevice for a well made product.
    Pioneer Elite N50 main HT rig hardwired to router connected

    1st Touch Wirelessly connected (Master Bedroom)

    2nd Touch Wirelessly connected (bedroom)

    3rd Touch Wirelessly connected (bedroom)

    4th Touch Wirelessly connected (livingroom)

    5th Touch Wirelessly connected (downstairs bedroom)

    Server (In garage)
    running on Duo Core P4 3.0 GHz 8 gig ram
    Windows 7 pro 64 bit
    350 Xternal gigHD
    1.5 TB backup
    Verizon Fios wireless router w/HG antana

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    Quote Originally Posted by ftlight View Post
    Well said, Tim! I don't have your requirements for classical music, but the combination of LMS and iPeng provides control over my music that's impossible to get with any other system. Not to mention being able to listen to the BBC to stay in touch with the old country, with the heroic efforts of bpa keeping it working for us.
    ... a million thanks to bpa for his efforts (conducted from Eire !)

    milliún go raibh maith agat
    Touch, Logitech Radio, Logitech UE Radio, O2 Joggler + SqpOS
    UPnPBridge - 2 paired Sonos Play1 speakers; Rocki - Sony SRS-BTM8 speaker; Pioneer WX-SMA1 speaker; - PURE One Flow internet radio: PURE Jongo S3x ; Jongo T2; Libratone Zipp
    Castbridge - Chromecast 1 + Chromecast Audio
    AirplayBridge - Loewe Airspeaker
    SB Player - Fire TV
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    Indeed.

    1. Healthy ecosystem (but I think we all have to come down together to make it a financially rewarding one to the people that do things, their goodwill will run out unless we do).

    2. Players I bought over 10 years ago still go strong.

    3. Plenty of flexible, future-proof implementation options.

    4. Supports any audio need, from high end audiophile to complete convenience.

    5. It's just damn cool.
    ...pablo
    Server: Virtual Machine (on VMware Workstation 14 Pro) running Ubuntu 16.04 + LMS 7.9
    System: SB Touch -optical-> Benchmark DAC2HGC -AnalysisPlus Oval Copper XLR-> NAD M22 Power Amp -AnalysisPlus Black Mesh Oval-> Totem Element Fire
    Other Rooms: 2x SB Boom; 1x SB Radio; 1x SB Classic-> NAD D7050 -> Totem DreamCatcher + Velodyne Minivee Sub
    Computer audio: workstation -USB-> audioengine D1 -> Grado PS500e/Shure 1540

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    Yes, still the best.

    Latest project, Hegel H90, AirPlay bridge and iPeng. Outstanding in both sound quality and easy to setup and use.

    Thanks and a merry christmas to you all!
    SB Touch to Hegel H90, Boston Acoustics A26.
    SB 3 to Audio Pro T3.
    AirPlay Bridge to Audio Pro C5 and Hegel H90.
    SB BOOM
    SB Radio
    ReadyNAS 202
    iPeng

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    Quote Originally Posted by pablolie View Post
    Indeed.

    1. Healthy ecosystem (but I think we all have to come down together to make it a financially rewarding one to the people that do things, their goodwill will run out unless we do).....
    Yes. I did have a license for Erland's plugins and was happy to do so. We are all so used to so much being free on the Internet we tend to be reluctant to pay anything. I do, however, have no idea whether the number of users of LMS and various plugins would make it worthwhile and cost effective.
    LMS 7.9.1 on VortexBox Midi box, Xubuntu 17.10, FLACs 16->24 bit, 44.1->192kbps. Touch & EDO. 2nd Touch standard.
    LMS plugin UPnP/DLNA Bridge to MF M1 CLiC (to A308CR amp & ESLs) & Marantz CR603 UPnP renderers.
    Alternatively Minimserver & Upplay to same & to upmpdcli/mpd PC renderers.
    Squeezelite to Meridian USB Explorer DAC to PC speakers/headphones.
    Wireless Xubuntu 17.10 laptop firefox/upplay or Android 'phone with Squeeze-Commander/BubbleUPnP controls LMS/Minimserver.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Recoveryone View Post
    The Pioneer Elite N50 came in today and hooked up flawlessly to my LMS, another kudos to Slimdevice for a well made product.
    Are you using that with Phillipe's AirPlay plugin or the DLNA one ?
    VB2.4 storage QNAP TS419p (NFS)
    Living Room - Joggler & SB3 -> Onkyo TS606 -> Celestion F20s
    Office - Pi3+Sreen -> Sony TAFE320 -> Celestion F10s / Pi2+DAC & SB3 -> Onkyo CRN755 -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes
    Dining Room -> SB Boom
    Kitchen -> UE Radio (upgraded to SB Radio)
    Bedroom (Bedside) - Pi2+DAC ->ToppingTP21 ->AKG Headphones
    Bedroom (TV) - SB Touch ->Sherwood AVR ->Mordaunt Short M10s
    Everything controlled by iPeng

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    This Eco-System has made my music obsession a real pleasure! No digging through my vinyl or CDs to find what I am thinking about listening to. No going down to the basement and walking the shelves just to get one specific CD to bring back to whatever player in whatever room I was planning to listen to it in. Speed, variety, convenience, flexibility, multi-room, with full resolution no matter much audio system or room I am listening it.

    The cost is what I am willing to pay for the audio quality I want for the location I am using, not what Sonos says I HAVE to use from the few over priced options they have (plus their system will not handle the size of my music library). One can buy a Vortexbox Appliance if one wants to just plug and play or build their own large server or Raspberry Pi. In my mind total flexibility with ones equipment, music, and needs.

    I'm in it for the long hall (nothing else available will really work for me anyway). Like others, all my Squeezeboxen are still going strong.
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    Media Room:
    ModWright Platinum Signature Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Wood Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1, Vandersteen V2W Subwoofer

    Living Room:
    Transporter, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1

    Office: Touch with Vandersteen VSM-1s
    Kitchen: Touch in-wall mount w/ Thiel Powerpoint 1.2s
    Bedroom: Squeezebox BOOM
    Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio
    Around the House: SliMP3, SB1, SB2, SB3
    Ford Thunderbird: SB Touch, USB drive
    Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive

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