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    1. You really seems to mean your use case and think your use case is representative for a “majority” a common fallacy it’s your bias in this . But it is an opinion one can have so ok .

    2. Does it matters at all ? All tag and rip software I used gives you the power to add any tag you like for example comp tags.
    Its up the user to use it. Insert a CD automatically populate tags and press rip ? This is an user error that gives you bad metadata.
    For a very large percentage of your records .You can’t design around that ?

    My thoughts. You cant design arond that folks wont fix tag errors due to bad default settings and bad metadata sources in rippers
    Many even wanted automatic ripping ? So one cant in advance second guess shoddy tagging.
    “Various artist” as track artists is just wrong as “album artist” it can be used.


    3. It’s a bug but the user workaround is so simple , that given the scarcity of qualified dev time . Meh no high priority imho.

    4 . No issue with a pref to toggle VA logic it does not rock the boat everyone can have it their way . This is an ok change.

    Off topic I dont think scan times is a problem. I’ll argues for a more complex scan so that all settings that forces a rescan can be removed it can all be in the dB once done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mnyb View Post
    1. You really seems to mean your use case and think your use case is representative for a “majority” a common fallacy it’s your bias in this . But it is an opinion one can have so ok .

    2. Does it matters at all ? All tag and rip software I used gives you the power to add any tag you like for example comp tags.
    Its up the user to use it. Insert a CD automatically populate tags and press rip ? This is an user error that gives you bad metadata.
    For a very large percentage of your records .You can’t design around that ?

    My thoughts. You cant design arond that folks wont fix tag errors due to bad default settings and bad metadata sources in rippers
    Many even wanted automatic ripping ? So one cant in advance second guess shoddy tagging.
    “Various artist” as track artists is just wrong as “album artist” it can be used.


    3. It’s a bug but the user workaround is so simple , that given the scarcity of qualified dev time . Meh no high priority imho.

    4 . No issue with a pref to toggle VA logic it does not rock the boat everyone can have it their way . This is an ok change.

    Off topic I dont think scan times is a problem. I’ll argues for a more complex scan so that all settings that forces a rescan can be removed it can all be in the dB once done.
    I am in complete agreement with this point of view.

    To base an an argument on 3 pieces of tagging software that don’t write Compilation tags when the one with the greatest market share (iTunes) and at least as many others DO write said tags is just ridiculous.

    I have come across the Various Artists string bug but actually it was me that incorrectly populated the albumartist tag iirc. The workaround is indeed trivial. I agree it isn’t worth the dev effort as I am sure that Michael will have looked at it by now and the code changes required must be very significant otherwise he would have done it.

    For the record if I see a Compilation tag I delete it immediately but my ripper / tagger of choice has too many other features I do like to throw it away and use one of the non Compilation tag variety. I will live with an occasional album appearing in Various Artists when it shouldn’t and know that when it happens I may need to re-tag.
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    We can argue all we like , or agree to disagree .

    LMS is no longer a comercial offering a “product” so it’s eventually upp to the few poeple that actually commit code and maintain to decide what they want to spend thier time on .
    Mostly mherger and some other kinds souls .

    I also supose they don't do things that could be “disruptive” for some users or we there seems to be no consensus by the users .
    .by that i mean the forum . The only user our devs are in dialogue with.

    I would not try to argue on behalf some kind off “silent majority” or “typical user” .
    Thats just not doable i say whats my opinion thats all i can do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mnyb View Post
    We can argue all we like , or agree to disagree .

    LMS is no longer a comercial offering a “product” so it’s eventually upp to the few poeple that actually commit code and maintain to decide what they want to spend thier time on .
    Mostly mherger and some other kinds souls .

    I also supose they don't do things that could be “disruptive” for some users or we there seems to be no consensus by the users .
    .by that i mean the forum . The only user our devs are in dialogue with.

    I would not try to argue on behalf some kind off “silent majority” or “typical user” .
    Thats just not doable i say whats my opinion thats all i can do.
    I use dbPoweramp for ripping. I try to remember to check tags before ripping CD. I always fill in Album Artist so if there are guest artists on some of the songs then it stays in Artist folder. If album is a true Compilation such as 'Original Club Ska' then I make sure the Compilation tag is True. If you search by Artist, LMS will search Compilations too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by earthbased View Post
    I use dbPoweramp for ripping. I try to remember to check tags before ripping CD. I always fill in Album Artist so if there are guest artists on some of the songs then it stays in Artist folder. If album is a true Compilation such as 'Original Club Ska' then I make sure the Compilation tag is True. If you search by Artist, LMS will search Compilations too.
    Yep , that it does .

    Btw there is another recent improvement in 7.9.1 free text search , you will find your stuff
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mnyb View Post
    Yep , that it does .

    Btw there is another recent improvement in 7.9.1 free text search , you will find your stuff
    And one to come, hopefully. (Right now, database IDs are scanned, too, generating "false" positives, see here.)
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