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    Have you re-scanned ?

    Vortexbox does this automatically when you rip a CD with it but if you rip outside then a rescan is required manually (or on schedule if that is enabled).
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    Quote Originally Posted by mherger View Post
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    > Just to be clear, LMS only reads the tags/metadata to build it's data
    > base for viewing in the various menu options(except Music Folder). It
    > doesn't care about or read the file names or directory structure. You[/color]

    Now that's wrong. LMS does indeed use the folder and file names in case
    tags were missing or incomplete.

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    Michael
    True, but doesn't the Guess Tags menu need to be enabled for this to work? Also, in my July 18 7.9 version, the guess tags options are missing. Is there another place to enable/disable this menu?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jfo View Post
    True, but doesn't the Guess Tags menu need to be enabled for this to work? Also, in my July 18 7.9 version, the guess tags options are missing. Is there another place to enable/disable this menu?
    I'm running 7.9 July 22, Guess Tags is at LMS > Settings > Advanced tab > Formatting
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    Quote Originally Posted by kidstypike View Post
    I'm running 7.9 July 22, Guess Tags is at LMS > Settings > Advanced tab > Formatting
    Yes, I know, but mine is just an empty box with no options showing. I'll update to the latest and see if it changes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jfo View Post
    True, but doesn't the Guess Tags menu need to be enabled for this to work? Also, in my July 18 7.9 version, the guess tags options are missing. Is there another place to enable/disable this menu?
    I have the guess tags options in Advanced/Formatting but cannot see how to enable/disable the option.

    Is there a way to check if tags are correct within LMS, or do I need a tag reader/writer prog.

    I have been using these systems LMS/Vortexbox/Duet/Receiver for many years but left most of the settings at default as it worked fine. Looks like LMS is far more flexible and configurable than I realised.

    Thanks again for all of your efforts and help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breadwinna View Post
    I have the guess tags options in Advanced/Formatting but cannot see how to enable/disable the option.

    Is there a way to check if tags are correct within LMS, or do I need a tag reader/writer prog.

    I have been using these systems LMS/Vortexbox/Duet/Receiver for many years but left most of the settings at default as it worked fine. Looks like LMS is far more flexible and configurable than I realised.

    Thanks again for all of your efforts and help.
    You can check the tags a couple of ways....

    1. In LMS, Music Folder, open a problem album, click on a track and then click on the View Tags menu. This will show you the tags that are added to that track , which should be indicative of the whole CD. You should see the usual, Artist, Album, Track, Genre etc.
    2. In Windows Explorer, navigate to your music library, open an album, and display the tracks in the right pane. Hover over a track and dB Power amp should show you a pop up with the all the tag info for the track. If you right click on the track, you will see an option to Edit ID-Tag, which will allow you to change/edit the tags. This is also a dB Poweramp function.
    There are tag editors like MP3Tag that are better suited to large changes to tags.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jfo View Post
    You can check the tags a couple of ways....

    1. In LMS, Music Folder, open a problem album, click on a track and then click on the View Tags menu. This will show you the tags that are added to that track , which should be indicative of the whole CD. You should see the usual, Artist, Album, Track, Genre etc.
    2. In Windows Explorer, navigate to your music library, open an album, and display the tracks in the right pane. Hover over a track and dB Power amp should show you a pop up with the all the tag info for the track. If you right click on the track, you will see an option to Edit ID-Tag, which will allow you to change/edit the tags. This is also a dB Poweramp function.
    There are tag editors like MP3Tag that are better suited to large changes to tags.
    That's the one 'jfo', just checked the tags and the naughty discs were hiding under the guise of 'no album' for the album tag. I re-ripped one of the discs and made sure a unique album title was given in the dbpoweramp album field, copied it to the vortex box and then rescanned the library, bingo!, all ok.

    This has been an interesting experience and I have learnt a lot, I have also realised there is so much I don't know about this system.

    Thanks very much to all who have helped me towards the light. Guess I have a lot of tag editing to do. I will keep an eye on the forum for more interesting info etc.

    Nigel.

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    Glad you got it sorted. Being diligent and consistent with tags is the easiest way to avoid annoying problems. It's also the first place to look if you find an album or track with unexpected characteristics. Rather than just accepting the default tags your ripper finds, it's good practise to check them before starting the rip and making any adjustments. The info included in the online databases is not always correct or may not match your approach.
    If you haven't tried it yet, you may want to install MP3tag. It's a free and very useful tool to check and correct tags and album art. You can change a single tag on a track or CD, or make mass changes to the entire library. Despite the name it works with flac files also. Many people here use it and can answer questions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breadwinna View Post
    That's the one 'jfo', just checked the tags and the naughty discs were hiding under the guise of 'no album' for the album tag. I re-ripped one of the discs and made sure a unique album title was given in the dbpoweramp album field, copied it to the vortex box and then rescanned the library, bingo!, all ok.

    This has been an interesting experience and I have learnt a lot, I have also realised there is so much I don't know about this system.

    Thanks very much to all who have helped me towards the light. Guess I have a lot of tag editing to do. I will keep an eye on the forum for more interesting info etc.

    Nigel.
    A tip for you. You don't need to re-rip the CD to make a simple tag change. You could use the Edit-ID tag function in Windows Explorer to add the Album name. Just bring up the tracks in the right pane, select them all and right click to open the edit menu. Select the Album field and add the name. If you select a single track it will show the specifcc track info. If you select all tracks the fields will show <different>. In either case you can just enter the new info.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jfo View Post
    A tip for you. You don't need to re-rip the CD to make a simple tag change. You could use the Edit-ID tag function in Windows Explorer to add the Album name. Just bring up the tracks in the right pane, select them all and right click to open the edit menu. Select the Album field and add the name. If you select a single track it will show the specifcc track info. If you select all tracks the fields will show <different>. In either case you can just enter the new info.
    I think it is fair to say that while Windows does have tag editing ability mp3tag is a wee bit better. By wee I mean loads.
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    Living Room Joggler & Pi4/Khadas -> Onkyo TXNR686 -> Celestion F20s
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    Dining Room SB Boom
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    Bedroom (Bedside) Pi Zero+DAC ->ToppingTP21 ->AKG Headphones
    Bedroom (TV) & Bathroom SB Touch ->Denon AVR ->Mordaunt Short M10s + Kef ceiling speakers
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