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  1. #271
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    DSTM/MusicIP Question

    Hi,
    I use DSTM with the MusicIP option. The way I tend to listen is to "seed" DSTM/MusicIP with a single track (eg. a single Miles Davis track sets up a Jazz playlist, a Bob Marley track sets up a Reggae playlist etc..). This works well in almost all scenarios except one...

    I have about 20 Johnny Cash albums all under the genre "Country". I have no other "Country" artists. The problem I encounter is seeding DSTM/MusicIP with a Johnny Cash track plays a single Johnny Cash track but then goes onto random song mix (ie. any genre/artist). I think DTSM and MusicIP are doing what they should given the settings (and the problem is there is only one artist in the selected genre - therefore MusicIP doesn't return a Mix and DSTM defaults to Songmix).

    In the above scenario, I would prefer DTSM to default to Songmix (limited to current genre). This would then effectively shuffle the seed artist (without having to change configs).

    Is that possible, or are there any suggestions as to how better configure to cope with this scenario?

    Hope that makes sense, thanks in advance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by staresy View Post
    Hi,
    I use DSTM with the MusicIP option. The way I tend to listen is to "seed" DSTM/MusicIP with a single track (eg. a single Miles Davis track sets up a Jazz playlist, a Bob Marley track sets up a Reggae playlist etc..). This works well in almost all scenarios except one...

    I have about 20 Johnny Cash albums all under the genre "Country". I have no other "Country" artists. The problem I encounter is seeding DSTM/MusicIP with a Johnny Cash track plays a single Johnny Cash track but then goes onto random song mix (ie. any genre/artist). I think DTSM and MusicIP are doing what they should given the settings (and the problem is there is only one artist in the selected genre - therefore MusicIP doesn't return a Mix and DSTM defaults to Songmix).

    In the above scenario, I would prefer DTSM to default to Songmix (limited to current genre). This would then effectively shuffle the seed artist (without having to change configs).

    Is that possible, or are there any suggestions as to how better configure to cope with this scenario?

    Hope that makes sense, thanks in advance.
    Try experimenting with the MusicIP settings. Mix style, mix variety and restrict genre.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slartibartfast View Post
    Try experimenting with the MusicIP settings. Mix style, mix variety and restrict genre.

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    The mix settings make no difference. After a bit of experimenting, it seems to be an issue with MusiIP and having just a single artist in a genre.

    Changing the artist names on a few of my Johnny Cash albums to something else resolves the issue and MusicIP returns sensible mixes. I might post this in the MusicIP thread, or I might just buy a few different "Country" CDs from different artists to mix it up a bit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by staresy View Post
    The mix settings make no difference. After a bit of experimenting, it seems to be an issue with MusiIP and having just a single artist in a genre.

    Changing the artist names on a few of my Johnny Cash albums to something else resolves the issue and MusicIP returns sensible mixes. I might post this in the MusicIP thread, or I might just buy a few different "Country" CDs from different artists to mix it up a bit.
    So even turning off restrict genre makes no difference? I'll never understand how Music IP makes decisions

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    @!staresy Could you not just select the Cash album and set it to random play?
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    Quote Originally Posted by staresy View Post
    The mix settings make no difference. After a bit of experimenting, it seems to be an issue with MusicIP and having just a single artist in a genre.

    Changing the artist names on a few of my Johnny Cash albums to something else resolves the issue and MusicIP returns sensible mixes. I might post this in the MusicIP thread, or I might just buy a few different "Country" CDs from different artists to mix it up a bit.
    If you're not actively limiting to the seed track genre MusicIP is genre-agnostic, it will return anything that sounds similar according to the acoustic analysis. MusicIP by default doesn't use any tag info for generating its mixes, only its own database (default.m3lib file)
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