Please read: software players & mysqueezebox.com

[Julf]

A stupid question perhaps, but what exactly defines a software player and when is it called a normal/hardware player?
I mean: every Squeezebox uses hardware and software for playing, whether it is an original device or whether it is a DIY-player.
For example: is a HifiBerry with piCorePlayer a software player? As far as I can see it is not using a fake MAC-address.

I assume a "hardware player" is actually "device sold by logitech" as opposed to "some third party hardware running suitable software".

[Jeff07971]

A stupid question perhaps, but what exactly defines a software player and when is it called a normal/hardware player?
I mean: every Squeezebox uses hardware and software for playing, whether it is an original device or whether it is a DIY-player.
For example: is a HifiBerry with piCorePlayer a software player? As far as I can see it is not using a fake MAC-address.

A hardware device is a Squeezebox/SliMP3 anything else is software I would think.

[mherger]

> A stupid question perhaps, but what exactly defines a software player
> and when is it called a normal/hardware player?

It's not stupid at all. After all the Radio/Touch/Controller are running
the same Squeezeplay software as Squeezeplay on your computer (or the
Joggler, or...). Julf is right: I refer to "hardware players" as players
sold by Logitech/SlimDevices. Real Squeezebox hardware with a sticker at
the bottom :-).

Software player is everything else: Squeezeplay on your computer,
squeezelite, iPeng, you name it.

> For example: is a HifiBerry with piCorePlayer a software player? As far

Yes.

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Michael

[Mnyb]

Oh dear half the dB must be people's old phones etc some of mine seems to have been automatically added when I ran some soft players there I don't that all that cruft is maliciously added by sneaky users it just got this way somehow .

I'm perfectly happy running LMS to get mysb.com based services trough LMS for soft players its a nice service to provide for free anyway ?
I must assume that even if bougth 6 squeezeboxes over they years ,my money for LMS upkeep are already spent .

I have assumed that using your player trough LMS don't load mysqueezebox.com as much as a direct connection , is that the case even for newer players like touch or players without GUI , like squeezelite ?

[mherger]

> Oh dear half the dB must be people's old phones etc

More than that :-).

> I have assumed that using your player trough LMS don't load
> mysqueezebox.com as much as a direct connection , is that the case even
> for newer players like touch or players without GUI , like squeezelite ?

mysb.com is a cluster with various server types doing different things.
Yes, newer players off-loaded eg. the display control from the server to
the player. But they introduced a new protocol (cometd) which required a
new type of server instance, adding new load there.

Players assigned to a user can put heavy load on the database when
connected to LMS, as LMS is constantly polling mysb.com for player
information. It's stupid (polling in general is when used in large
scale), and annoying as the returned data hardly ever changes.
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Michael

[DJanGo]

I'am using (since you introduced it) slimoptions=nomysqueezebox.

(OT)
It would be nice if the tab "mysqueezebox" isnt shown or filled with something like "your server is running with parameter nomysqueezebox".
(/OT)
I didnt sniff my lms - but when using "nomysqueezebox" is using mysqueezebox or not?

[cdmackay]

I'am using (since you introduced it) slimoptions=nomysqueezebox.

where do I use that option, please? [Linux]

[mherger]

> I'am using (since you introduced it) slimoptions=nomysqueezebox.

I should be able to enforce this on certain accounts :-). Thanks for
testing this!

> (OT)
> It would be nice if the tab "mysqueezebox" isnt shown or filled with
> something like "your server is running with parameter nomysqueezebox".
> (/OT)

Hmm... I no longer have the mysqueezebox tab with that option enabled.
Can you make sure you fully reload the settings page? If you still see
it, then it's probably not working as expected.

> I didnt sniff my lms - but when using "nomysqueezebox" is using
> mysqueezebox or not?

It shouldn't be using it any more. You can enable logging for
network.squeezenetwork and see whether you still get any activity
between LMS and mysb.com. But that's probably a topic for its own thread.


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Michael

[Man in a van]

Alas those fixes won't go without some side-effects. Please expect some hiccups as I'm wading through potential solutions for these issues. I'll try my best to apply fair rules (after all I want to be able to run my Squeezeplay, too :-)). If you're running into any kind of issue using mysb.com based services, please let me know. It might be a temporary issue or not.

Thanks for your understanding!

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Michael

Hi Michael,

I run a Joggler (OS is Sqpos v3.0.3) and sometimes use the MySqueezebox.com service.

I have the latest LMS v.7.9.0 installed on a Raspberry pi3.

Using Spotify via the rpi3 LMS, files play normally on the Joggler Squeezeplay.

I switch to MySqueezebox on the Joggler and although it is recognised and can play from My Favourites when I try to play Spotify I get "Problem, can not play file type" on the screen.

I can use the MySqueezebox web Base remote program to control the Joggler and select Favourites and play the file, but Spotify also fails.

Is this likely to be the 'status quo' now with regard to SqueezePlay and Spotify/Mysqueezebox/Joggler?

I did un-install and re-register the Spotify app on MySqueezebox but this had no effect.

Regards

Ronnie.

[mherger]

> I switch to MySqueezebox on the Joggler and although it is recognised

This should not be possible, unless you pretend to be using a hardware
Squeezebox. That's the kind of configuration which hurts us the most,
and which triggered this whole story :-(.

> Is this likely to be the 'status quo' now with regard to SqueezePlay and
> Spotify/Mysqueezebox/Joggler?

The behaviour wrt. to Spotify has not changed recently. This simply is
not possible because you lack the SB firmware required to play Spotify.
Just stick with LMS.

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Michael