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  • rkrug
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2013
    • 117

    Compare flac to accurateip database on linux?

    Hi

    I would like to compare my flacs, ripped over several years with
    different programs, CD drives, OS and computers, to the accurateip
    database.

    I have found CUEtools [1] which apparently can do this, but they only
    run on Windows.

    Is there a linux commandline tool to check existing flac to the
    accuraterip database?

    Thanks,

    Rainer


    Footnotes:
    [1] http://www.cuetools.net/wiki/Main_Page

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    Rainer M. Krug
    email: Rainer<at>krugs<dot>de
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  • Owen Smith
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2010
    • 962

    #2
    Originally posted by rkrug
    I have found CUEtools which apparently can do this, but they only
    run on Windows.
    CUEtools can definitely do this, I've used it quite a lot to check and even repair previous rips. And it compares against two databases, the accuraterip one and it's own CTDB.

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    • Julf
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2010
      • 2567

      #3
      Morituri (on linux) does compare with accurip, but I don't think it can read existing FLAC files. It is written in python (but in a somewhat odd style), so reasonably easy to modify.
      "To try to judge the real from the false will always be hard. In this fast-growing art of 'high fidelity' the quackery will bear a solid gilt edge that will fool many people" - Paul W Klipsch, 1953

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      • cdmackay
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2009
        • 408

        #4
        According to my my notes, I used to use morituri for this on Linux, with:

        rip image verify file.cue

        as I was ripping to FLAC-per-disk plus CUE file.

        I imagine it should be able to do it directly with the FLAC file, but I don't know if the syntax is the same.


        Nowadays, I'm sitting in front of a Mac, so use XLD to both rip & verify.

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        • Julf
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2010
          • 2567

          #5
          Originally posted by cdmackay
          I imagine it should be able to do it directly with the FLAC file, but I don't know if the syntax is the same.
          Not sure - the problem is that to look up the album, you need the whole album, in the right track order.

          rip image verify -help states "Usage: rip image verify [CUEFILE]..." so I guess the verify function really needs a cue file. I guess you could use cuetools to make a cue file for an album just for verifying purposes.
          "To try to judge the real from the false will always be hard. In this fast-growing art of 'high fidelity' the quackery will bear a solid gilt edge that will fool many people" - Paul W Klipsch, 1953

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          • rkrug
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2013
            • 117

            #6
            Compare flac to accurateip database onlinux?

            cdmackay <cdmackay.7e1dsn (AT) no-mx (DOT) forums.slimdevices.com> writes:

            > According to my my notes, I used to use morituri for this on Linux,
            > with:
            >
            > rip image verify file.cue
            >
            > as I was ripping to FLAC-per-disk plus CUE file.
            >
            > I imagine it should be able to do it directly with the FLAC file, but I
            > don't know if the syntax is the same.
            >
            >
            > Nowadays, I'm sitting in front of a Mac, so use XLD to both rip &
            > verify.


            Nowadays, I am doing the same. But my LMS is sitting on a Linux box, and
            I want to check it there.

            Could I do a check with XLD of the flac? When I rip, XLD is doing it
            perfectly.

            Cheers,

            Rainer

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            • rkrug
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2013
              • 117

              #7
              Compare flac to accurateip database onlinux?

              Owen Smith <Owen.Smith.7e0r7b (AT) no-mx (DOT) forums.slimdevices.com> writes:

              > rkrug wrote:
              >> I have found CUEtools which apparently can do this, but they only
              >> run on Windows.

              >
              > CUEtools can definitely do this, I've used it quite a lot to check and
              > even repair previous rips. And it compares against two databases, the
              > accuraterip one and it's own CTDB.


              Hm - I might install them on my Mac using wine and do a once off check
              if I don't find another solution.


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              • rkrug
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2013
                • 117

                #8
                Compare flac to accurateip database onlinux?

                Julf <Julf.7e0rnz (AT) no-mx (DOT) forums.slimdevices.com> writes:

                > Morituri (on linux) does compare with accurip, but I don't think it can
                > read existing FLAC files. It is written in python (but in a somewhat odd
                > style), so reasonably easy to modify.


                I am more looking for an easier solution then modify existing code.


                >
                >
                >
                > "To try to judge the real from the false will always be hard. In this
                > fast-growing art of 'high fidelity' the quackery will bear a solid gilt
                > edge that will fool many people" - Paul W Klipsch, 1953
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                • Julf
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2010
                  • 2567

                  #9
                  Originally posted by rkrug
                  I am more looking for an easier solution then modify existing code.
                  Turns out morituri can do the verification without any code modifications, but it needs a cue file. You can produce a cue file using shntool.
                  "To try to judge the real from the false will always be hard. In this fast-growing art of 'high fidelity' the quackery will bear a solid gilt edge that will fool many people" - Paul W Klipsch, 1953

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                  • cdmackay
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2009
                    • 408

                    #10
                    Originally posted by rkrug
                    cdmackay <cdmackay.7e1dsn (AT) no-mx (DOT) forums.slimdevices.com> writes:

                    > Nowadays, I'm sitting in front of a Mac, so use XLD to both rip &
                    > verify.


                    Nowadays, I am doing the same. But my LMS is sitting on a Linux box, and
                    I want to check it there.

                    Could I do a check with XLD of the flac? When I rip, XLD is doing it
                    perfectly.
                    Same here, actually. I use sshfs (via ExpanDrive) to "mount" the Linux filesystem on the Mac, then use XLD to verify.

                    Bit I use a cue file there, too, as with morituri.

                    Julf has noted how to produce a cue file if you don't already have one.

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                    • rkrug
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2013
                      • 117

                      #11
                      Compare flac to accurateip database onlinux?

                      cdmackay <cdmackay.7e3a4n (AT) no-mx (DOT) forums.slimdevices.com> writes:

                      > rkrug wrote:
                      >> cdmackay <cdmackay.7e1dsn (AT) no-mx (DOT) forums.slimdevices.com>
                      >> writes:
                      >>
                      >> > Nowadays, I'm sitting in front of a Mac, so use XLD to both rip &
                      >> > verify.

                      >>
                      >> Nowadays, I am doing the same. But my LMS is sitting on a Linux box,
                      >> and
                      >> I want to check it there.
                      >>
                      >> Could I do a check with XLD of the flac? When I rip, XLD is doing it
                      >> perfectly.
                      >>

                      >
                      > Same here, actually. I use sshfs (via ExpanDrive) to "mount" the Linux
                      > filesystem on the Mac, then use XLD to verify.


                      OK - I use an nfs share (apparently much less heavy on server resources
                      than sshfs - an admin once told me not to use it because of heavy
                      resource usage) nw=hich I mount to my Mac when needed.

                      I looked into XLD - but couldn't find an option to verify flac files?
                      How can I do this?

                      >
                      > Bit I use a cue file there, too, as with morituri.
                      >
                      > Julf has noted how to produce a cue file if you don't already have one.


                      Yes - I have =seen this. I should probably do this.

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                      • rkrug
                        Senior Member
                        • Dec 2013
                        • 117

                        #12
                        Compare flac to accurateip database onlinux?

                        Rainer M Krug <Rainer (AT) krugs (DOT) de> writes:

                        > cdmackay <cdmackay.7e3a4n (AT) no-mx (DOT) forums.slimdevices.com> writes:
                        >
                        >> rkrug wrote:
                        >>> cdmackay <cdmackay.7e1dsn (AT) no-mx (DOT) forums.slimdevices.com>
                        >>> writes:
                        >>>
                        >>> > Nowadays, I'm sitting in front of a Mac, so use XLD to both rip &
                        >>> > verify.
                        >>>
                        >>> Nowadays, I am doing the same. But my LMS is sitting on a Linux box,
                        >>> and
                        >>> I want to check it there.
                        >>>
                        >>> Could I do a check with XLD of the flac? When I rip, XLD is doing it
                        >>> perfectly.
                        >>>

                        >>
                        >> Same here, actually. I use sshfs (via ExpanDrive) to "mount" the Linux
                        >> filesystem on the Mac, then use XLD to verify.

                        >
                        > OK - I use an nfs share (apparently much less heavy on server resources
                        > than sshfs - an admin once told me not to use it because of heavy
                        > resource usage) nw=hich I mount to my Mac when needed.
                        >
                        > I looked into XLD - but couldn't find an option to verify flac files?
                        > How can I do this?


                        Thanks to



                        I found it:

                        Open Folder As Disk - Bottom left of window, you see a "Verify" Button -
                        that's it. Works even without cue files, and I can create cue files
                        from there.

                        Only question left: Can I automate this or run it via command line? I
                        don't feel like doing these checks by hand for several hundreds of
                        albums.

                        Suggestions?

                        >
                        >>
                        >> Bit I use a cue file there, too, as with morituri.
                        >>
                        >> Julf has noted how to produce a cue file if you don't already have one.

                        >
                        > Yes - I have =seen this. I should probably do this.
                        >
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                        • cdmackay
                          Senior Member
                          • Feb 2009
                          • 408

                          #13
                          Originally posted by rkrug
                          OK - I use an nfs share (apparently much less heavy on server resources
                          than sshfs - an admin once told me not to use it because of heavy
                          resource usage) nw=hich I mount to my Mac when needed.
                          Yes, I would much prefer NFS. In fact, I used to be an NFS kernel developer

                          But the current Mac OSX NFS client leaves much to be desired, at least for NFSv4 - lots of perf issues, etc. So I'm stuck with sshfs for now. Better than nothing.

                          apols for OT.

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                          • rkrug
                            Senior Member
                            • Dec 2013
                            • 117

                            #14
                            [OT] NFS shares Mac client - WAS: Re:Compare flac to accurateip database on linux?

                            cdmackay <cdmackay.7e4zsn (AT) no-mx (DOT) forums.slimdevices.com> writes:

                            > rkrug wrote:
                            >>
                            >> OK - I use an nfs share (apparently much less heavy on server resources
                            >> than sshfs - an admin once told me not to use it because of heavy
                            >> resource usage) nw=hich I mount to my Mac when needed.
                            >>

                            >
                            > Yes, I would much prefer NFS. In fact, I used to be an NFS kernel
                            > developer


                            SO an expert - great.

                            >
                            > But the current Mac OSX NFS client leaves much to be desired, at least
                            > for NFSv4 - lots of perf issues, etc. So I'm stuck with sshfs for now.
                            > Better than nothing.


                            Could you elaborate a bit what these are? Does it is affect speed in
                            data transfers? Might SAMBA be than the better option for Mac OSX
                            client? what about switching to NFSv3?

                            >
                            > apols for OT.


                            Might be an interesting question here as well - manly LMS are running on
                            Linux, managed from a Mac?

                            Cheers,

                            Rainer

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                            • rkrug
                              Senior Member
                              • Dec 2013
                              • 117

                              #15
                              Compare flac to accurateip database onlinux?

                              cdmackay <cdmackay.7e3a4n (AT) no-mx (DOT) forums.slimdevices.com> writes:

                              > rkrug wrote:
                              >> cdmackay <cdmackay.7e1dsn (AT) no-mx (DOT) forums.slimdevices.com>
                              >> writes:
                              >>
                              >> > Nowadays, I'm sitting in front of a Mac, so use XLD to both rip &
                              >> > verify.

                              >>
                              >> Nowadays, I am doing the same. But my LMS is sitting on a Linux box,
                              >> and
                              >> I want to check it there.
                              >>
                              >> Could I do a check with XLD of the flac? When I rip, XLD is doing it
                              >> perfectly.
                              >>

                              >
                              > Same here, actually. I use sshfs (via ExpanDrive) to "mount" the Linux
                              > filesystem on the Mac, then use XLD to verify.


                              Can I do batch checking of hundreds of albums using XLD? Haven't seen
                              anything?

                              Rainer

                              >
                              > Bit I use a cue file there, too, as with morituri.
                              >
                              > Julf has noted how to produce a cue file if you don't already have one.
                              >
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