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  1. #1
    Iain Shaw
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    Integrating vinyl into a Squeeze / Slim setup?

    This feels dumb to me even as I type it but I remember feeling the same
    when I asked about digital radio.....so here goes

    I want to able to distribute audio for a friend. He's got the usual CD
    and MP3 collection and also still listens to a lot of records. Does
    anyone have any suggestions on any kind of setup that might allow a
    record player be integrated into a network of streaming devices.

    apologies if this has been asked before.

  2. #2
    Jack Coates
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    Integrating vinyl into a Squeeze / Slim setup?

    Iain Shaw wrote:
    > This feels dumb to me even as I type it but I remember feeling the same
    > when I asked about digital radio.....so here goes
    >
    > I want to able to distribute audio for a friend. He's got the usual CD
    > and MP3 collection and also still listens to a lot of records. Does
    > anyone have any suggestions on any kind of setup that might allow a
    > record player be integrated into a network of streaming devices.
    >
    > apologies if this has been asked before.
    >


    not specifically vinyl, but there's been a bit of discussion about
    generic audio input (from musical instruments, radio cards, &c). It's an
    interesting area of inquiry to me, I'd like to someday manage an AM/FM
    tuner through the Slimserver...

    There hasn't been much in the way of progress though, the core devels
    are focusing on SQL backend (rightly so). Doing this audio input trick
    in a cross-platform way is not simple, but I think there've been some
    posts about various single platform workarounds you could use... try
    searching for audio stream or analogue input.
    --
    Jack at Monkeynoodle dot Org: It's a Scientific Venture...
    Riding the Emergency Third Rail Power Trip since 1996!

  3. #3
    Jason Holtzapple
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    Integrating vinyl into a Squeeze / Slim setup?

    Iain Shaw wrote:
    > This feels dumb to me even as I type it but I remember feeling the same
    > when I asked about digital radio.....so here goes
    >
    > I want to able to distribute audio for a friend. He's got the usual CD
    > and MP3 collection and also still listens to a lot of records. Does
    > anyone have any suggestions on any kind of setup that might allow a
    > record player be integrated into a network of streaming devices.
    >
    > apologies if this has been asked before.


    What's "a lot"? I'd suggest converting the vinyl to flac and streaming
    it directly with slimserver. This is a good idea both for convenience
    and preservation of the original records.

    There are a few decent guides for digitizing vinyl out there ... my
    own experiences here are too outdated to be useful.

  4. #4
    Bruce Hartley
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    Integrating vinyl into a Squeeze / Slim setup?

    are you talking about "ripping" vinyl, which is possible and there is even
    software for cleaning up the audio (hiss/pops etc.)
    Or are you talking about real time streaming of a record player?


    "Iain Shaw" <iain (AT) nqube (DOT) com> wrote in message
    news:cpkejr$6p8$1 (AT) sea (DOT) gmane.org...
    > This feels dumb to me even as I type it but I remember feeling the same
    > when I asked about digital radio.....so here goes
    >
    > I want to able to distribute audio for a friend. He's got the usual CD
    > and MP3 collection and also still listens to a lot of records. Does
    > anyone have any suggestions on any kind of setup that might allow a record
    > player be integrated into a network of streaming devices.
    >
    > apologies if this has been asked before.

  5. #5
    Daniel Cohen
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    Integrating vinyl into a Squeeze / Slim setup?

    On 13/12/04 at 4:09 pm +0000, Iain Shaw wrote
    >This feels dumb to me even as I type it but I remember feeling the
    >same when I asked about digital radio.....so here goes
    >
    >I want to able to distribute audio for a friend. He's got the usual
    >CD and MP3 collection and also still listens to a lot of records.
    >Does anyone have any suggestions on any kind of setup that might
    >allow a record player be integrated into a network of streaming
    >devices.


    There are, of course, fancy multi-room hifi systems. Usually madly
    expensive, and I don't know if any are wireless.

    then one could just use a system such as the iMic (though I prefer
    the Edirol products) that will allow one to copy LPs or cassettes
    onto a hard drive and then split and encode by whatever method one
    liked.

    And for some people Hermstedt's Hifidelio might work well. As I
    understand it, it will rip to mp3 anything coming out of one's hifi,
    and it will then (in principle, not sure of the practice) allow
    streaming to various "satellites". I'm not sure how far this is
    advanced along the way to consumer supply and use, I've only seen a
    short demo.
    --
    Daniel Cohen

  6. #6
    Iain Shaw
    Guest

    Integrating vinyl into a Squeeze / Slim setup?

    Bruce Hartley wrote:
    > are you talking about "ripping" vinyl, which is possible and there is even
    > software for cleaning up the audio (hiss/pops etc.)
    > Or are you talking about real time streaming of a record player?
    >


    I'm trying to understand what's possible. I know you can rip vinyl and
    that may be what we have to do here but I'm also trying to see what
    could be done in terms of real time streaming. I was thinking about
    whether a deveice like a Barix instreamer might be used. Open to all
    ideas here.

  7. #7
    Kevin O. Lepard
    Guest

    Integrating vinyl into a Squeeze / Slim setup?

    >I know you can rip vinyl and that may be what we have to do
    >here...Open to all ideas here.


    I think you're probably best off ripping the vinyl. The FLAC or MP3
    files will integrate better with the SlimServer software, and you'll
    spare wear-and-tear on the vinyl and record player.

    My $0.02.

    Kevin
    --
    Kevin O. Lepard
    kolepard (AT) charter (DOT) net

    Happiness is being 100% Microsoft free.

  8. #8
    Graham Ridgway at home
    Guest

    Integrating vinyl into a Squeeze / Slim setup?

    I agree about ripping. Also the only benefit of real-time streaming is
    having the deck in a diff place to the player. With only 20 mins of music
    per side, you will be doing a huge amount of running back and forth!

    I have ripped quite a bit of vinyl and haven't found a great tool for
    removing clicks and rumbles. You seem to take out great chunks of frequency
    range. I use tools called LPRecorder and LPRipper to record the album to
    WAV split it into tracks and then spawn LAME to encode.

    Graham
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Kevin O. Lepard" <kolepard (AT) charter (DOT) net>
    To: "Slim Devices Discussion" <discuss (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com>
    Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 9:15 PM
    Subject: [slim] Integrating vinyl into a Squeeze / Slim setup?


    > >I know you can rip vinyl and that may be what we have to do here...Open
    > >to all ideas here.

    >
    > I think you're probably best off ripping the vinyl. The FLAC or MP3 files
    > will integrate better with the SlimServer software, and you'll spare
    > wear-and-tear on the vinyl and record player.
    >
    > My $0.02.
    >
    > Kevin
    > --
    > Kevin O. Lepard
    > kolepard (AT) charter (DOT) net
    >
    > Happiness is being 100% Microsoft free.
    >

  9. #9
    Kevin O. Lepard
    Guest

    Integrating vinyl into a Squeeze / Slim setup?

    >I have ripped quite a bit of vinyl and haven't found a great tool
    >for removing clicks and rumbles.


    Those are part of the warmth beauty of vinyl and their inherent
    superiority over CD. *cough*cough*

    Seriously, though, the only really good way I know to edit those out
    is doing is manually, and that's not perfect either.

    But this emphasizes the advantage of minimizing wear and tear, IMHO.

    Kevin

    P.S. The first sentence is meant to be taken with good humor. I'm
    not trying to start a vinyl/analogue-tube, etc. vs. digital vs.
    my-technology-is-better-than-yours flame war.
    --
    Kevin O. Lepard
    kolepard (AT) charter (DOT) net

    Happiness is being 100% Microsoft free.

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