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  1. #1
    Jim W. Howard
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    Port of Slim Server to run on TiVo Hardware?

    Has anyone besides me thought of how cool it would be to run SlimServer on
    your TiVo box? My TiVo is a linux box with a boat load of storage built
    in, and it would seem to have capacity to spare to run as a Slim server.
    The advantage here would be that I don't have to dedicate a PC or server
    to running Slim, just let the Tivo sit there in my entertainment center
    streaming songs to my Squeezebox...

    I don't know of a working Perl for Tivo, so this is probably a deal
    killer, but the idea came to me tonight and I thought I'd put it out there
    in case anyone has thought of it, or already done it...

    -Jim

  2. #2
    Jason Snell
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    Port of Slim Server to run on TiVo Hardware?

    >Has anyone besides me thought of how cool it would be to run SlimServer on
    >your TiVo box?


    It's been mentioned. My impression of the TiVo hardware is that it's
    so underpowered that it wouldn't really work. The TiVo's strengths
    are in its video processors; the main processor it uses is not so
    hotso.

    I agree, it would be cool.
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  3. #3
    Geoff Bonallack
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    Port of Slim Server to run on TiVo Hardware?

    On Tue, 7 Dec 2004 07:36:42 -0800, Jason Snell <> wrote:
    > >Has anyone besides me thought of how cool it would be to run SlimServer on
    > >your TiVo box?

    >
    > It's been mentioned. My impression of the TiVo hardware is that it's
    > so underpowered that it wouldn't really work. The TiVo's strengths
    > are in its video processors; the main processor it uses is not so
    > hotso.
    >
    > I agree, it would be cool.


    I've heard the same thing about TiVo hardware. A much better option
    might be to use a Windows Media Center Edition computer, and get rid
    of the TiVo (and the monthly fee!). That way you can spec the
    hardware to match exactly what you want to support Slimserver (within
    Microsoft's spec at least).

    Or, if you are up for more of a challenge, you could build one of the
    Linux freevo variants.

    Cheers
    Geoff

  4. #4
    Jules Taplin
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    Port of Slim Server to run on TiVo Hardware?

    Hmmm. Definately a little underpowered. Series 1 Tivo reports the following:

    bash-2.02# cat /proc/cpuinfo
    processor : 0
    cpu : IBM 403GCX
    clock : 54MHz
    revision : 20.1
    bogomips : 53.86
    machine : Teleworld Customer Device

    It's also not exactly brimming with memory - looks like 128Mb of memory
    top (although my /proc/meminfo doesn't look to make much sense)

    Just to bring that in perspective, by the way... that makes my TiVo
    roughly 100 times slower than my current slimserver *grin*.

    Possibly more interesting would be the ability to use TiVo as a
    slimserver-compatible player, but for my money... you get a better
    result by sitting a Squeezebox on top of it *grin*.


    -- Jules



    Jason Snell wrote:

    >> Has anyone besides me thought of how cool it would be to run
    >> SlimServer on
    >> your TiVo box?

    >
    >
    > It's been mentioned. My impression of the TiVo hardware is that it's
    > so underpowered that it wouldn't really work. The TiVo's strengths are
    > in its video processors; the main processor it uses is not so hotso.
    >
    > I agree, it would be cool.

  5. #5
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    Port of Slim Server to run on TiVo Hardware?

    On Dec 7, 2004, at 7:56 AM, Jules Taplin wrote:

    > Hmmm. Definately a little underpowered. Series 1 Tivo reports the
    > following:
    >
    > bash-2.02# cat /proc/cpuinfo
    > processor : 0
    > cpu : IBM 403GCX
    > clock : 54MHz
    > revision : 20.1
    > bogomips : 53.86
    > machine : Teleworld Customer Device
    > It's also not exactly brimming with memory - looks like 128Mb of
    > memory top (although my /proc/meminfo doesn't look to make much sense)
    >
    > Just to bring that in perspective, by the way... that makes my TiVo
    > roughly 100 times slower than my current slimserver *grin*.

    And half as fast as a Squeezebox! (Of course, the MIPS in question are
    not really comparable...

    > Possibly more interesting would be the ability to use TiVo as a
    > slimserver-compatible player, but for my money... you get a better
    > result by sitting a Squeezebox on top of it *grin*.

    I couldn't agree more.

  6. #6
    Anthony James
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    Port of Slim Server to run on TiVo Hardware?

    On Tue, 7 Dec 2004 08:17:38 -0800, dean blackketter
    <dean (AT) slimdevices (DOT) com> wrote:
    > > Hmmm. Definately a little underpowered. Series 1 Tivo reports the
    > > clock : 54MHz


    What's really amazing is how well a Series 1 Tivo works - it's the
    best advert for 'consumer' hardware against a generic PC i've seen.
    My S1 Tivo is more reliable playing video than my 3Ghz P4 with a
    Digital TV card and will reliably record one stream whilst playing
    back another. Playback and recording are uninterupted - it never
    decides that some other process is more important and give up on
    playback for a while. and all at a fraction of the price of a media
    centre pc.

    AJ

  7. #7
    Kevin Murphy
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    Port of Slim Server to run on TiVo Hardware?

    Anthony James wrote:
    > What's really amazing is how well a Series 1 Tivo works - it's the
    > best advert for 'consumer' hardware against a generic PC i've seen.
    > My S1 Tivo is more reliable playing video than my 3Ghz P4 with a
    > Digital TV card and will reliably record one stream whilst playing
    > back another. Playback and recording are uninterupted - it never
    > decides that some other process is more important and give up on
    > playback for a while. and all at a fraction of the price of a media
    > centre pc.


    And all running on Linux!
    </flamebait>

    --Kevin

  8. #8
    Jules Taplin
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    Port of Slim Server to run on TiVo Hardware?

    Hehe.

    I've got to broadly concur with that... As a piece of consumer
    electronics, it's unsurpassed. Sadly... but the time you've hacked it to
    buggery, it's not always that great. Mine certainly can't keep up with
    watching a programme, while recording another, and streaming the data
    off to be transcoded

    It is also _BREATHTAKINGLY_ slow for it's backend processes. The work it
    does to sort out the programme guide when they've been downloaded does
    literally take hours to happen.

    But hey... still beats a Video Recorder any day of the week

    -- Jules

    Kevin Murphy wrote:

    > Anthony James wrote:
    >
    >> What's really amazing is how well a Series 1 Tivo works - it's the
    >> best advert for 'consumer' hardware against a generic PC i've seen.
    >> My S1 Tivo is more reliable playing video than my 3Ghz P4 with a
    >> Digital TV card and will reliably record one stream whilst playing
    >> back another. Playback and recording are uninterupted - it never
    >> decides that some other process is more important and give up on
    >> playback for a while. and all at a fraction of the price of a media
    >> centre pc.

    >
    >
    > And all running on Linux!
    > </flamebait>
    >
    > --Kevin
    >

  9. #9
    neil.coburn@blueyonder.co.uk
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    Port of Slim Server to run on TiVo Hardware?

    If running Slim Server on a TiVo is a non-runner, is hacking a TiVo to run
    SoftSqueeze a possibility? (Maybe this is a question for the Tivo
    Community Forum)

  10. #10
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    Port of Slim Server to run on TiVo Hardware?

    Neil,

    I think a TiVo will also be to under powered to run Softsqueeze,
    unfortunately decoding mp3's in Java needs a reasonable size cpu.

    Regards,
    Richard


    neil.coburn (AT) blueyonder (DOT) co.uk wrote:

    >If running Slim Server on a TiVo is a non-runner, is hacking a TiVo to run
    >SoftSqueeze a possibility? (Maybe this is a question for the Tivo
    >Community Forum)
    >
    >

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