As I've not found a good network player to replace my SB3, I've decided to go for the Touch or possibly Transporter.
I am not into building stuff, so it's between these two.
Does anybody own both? I'd like to know whether there would be an advantage paying extra for the Transporter.
I like the look of the Transporter, it would look better with the rest of the Hi-Fi, I like the idea of bigger screen, but if that's all what I'm gaining, I think the Touch would be more sensible choice?
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Thread: Touch or Transporter?
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2014-10-11, 07:10 #1
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Touch or Transporter?
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2014-10-11, 07:32 #2
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Touch is probably more sensible choice. I have and really like both. You can see a good discussion of this here (and there are many other threads on this same question). But all lead to the same conclusion. Really personal preference and cost difference.
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showth...us+transporter
to summarize a couple of thoughts I have. I like the balanced analog outputs of the Transporter. But I can achieve the same thing with my Touch feeding the Benchmark DAC I that I have (which has balanced analog outs). And other than that, I'm not sure an external DAC really needed for the TOUCH, as it is a nice unit/DAC by itself. The Transporter does look cool but .......Last edited by garym; 2014-10-11 at 07:39.
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2014-10-11, 10:20 #3"To try to judge the real from the false will always be hard. In this fast-growing art of 'high fidelity' the quackery will bear a solid gilt edge that will fool many people" - Paul W Klipsch, 1953
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2014-10-11, 11:07 #4
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2014-10-11, 12:40 #5"To try to judge the real from the false will always be hard. In this fast-growing art of 'high fidelity' the quackery will bear a solid gilt edge that will fool many people" - Paul W Klipsch, 1953
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2014-10-12, 02:40 #6
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2014-10-12, 03:23 #7
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2014-10-12, 05:04 #8
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It's a decent set up. Bi-amped Roksan Kandy K2.
I've tried tried Arcam and Audiolab DACs with my current SB3 and could not hear any difference at all, not one bit. Hence I am a bit sceptical since and I doubt I would notice any difference between the Transporter and the Touch.
I can only get the Transporter from the USA on eBay and I guess they will add tax. I contacted the seller and will see what they come back with.
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2014-10-12, 05:29 #9
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Home: VBA2.5 4TB or rPi4B-8GB/pCP7.x/4TB>LMS 8.1.x>Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio (all ethernet)
Cottage: rPi4B-4GB/pCP7.x/4TB>LMS 8.1.x>Touch>Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (Radio WIFI)
Office: Win10(64)>foobar2000
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Controllers: iPhone11 & iPadAir3 (iPeng), CONTROLLER, Material Skin, or SqueezePlay 7.8 on Win10(64)
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2014-10-12, 06:20 #10
Lets introduce the blasphemous idea of going with the specs
Transporter has very good data better than Touch (but Touch is not bad either ).
Even if a component can't be singled out in a listening test it can still add noise and distortion to the whole .
Said player/dac will be connected to a preamp and a power amp , you want each component so good that transparency is maintained , and that chain begins in the studio so it cant be good to add more errors.
When connecting components other aspect can become important as input/output levels gain ,input and output impedances etc . Mismatches can happen .
Another interesting aspect is the adjustable attenuators available on the single ended analog outputs . You can adjust the output level to a god fit for driving and amp directly without preamp or just for adjustment in general (as everything has to much gain ).
Or drive active speakers directly . Even if the Squeezeboxes digital volume is decent you still want to use it on a somewhat high level to maintain good fidelity so built in attenuators is a bonus .
You could ofcourse add a DAC with better performance to a Touch , but that adds an interface like spdiff optical or USB (with Triodes app for USB and 24/192 khz digital out ) . These interfaces can add sligthly to the jitter (or is asynchronous USB considered jitter free ) , not that you going to hear that on any decent equipment but anyway ...
When the data to a squeezebox arrives the network interface and protocoll used is much better than spdiff or toslink ever can bee totally asynchronous with a typical buffer of 30 seconds for CD material--------------------------------------------------------------------
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