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    Quote Originally Posted by erland View Post
    I donít think the artist attributes from lastfm is the issue since these are stored in a separate table thatís reasonable small.

    The obvious difference (except the library size) which I spot is that you donít scan tags like COMMENT and LYRICS which potentially can contain really long texts. As mentioned in my previous post Iím not sure if these might cause performance issues.
    removed LYRICS and COMMENTS from scanning, improved dramatically from several minutes feedback, to two seconds.
    So, thank you and good i've asked here. Dunno how LYRICS found into the scanning config though. Might be there by default?

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    Quote Originally Posted by erland View Post
    I donít think the artist attributes from lastfm is the issue since these are stored in a separate table thatís reasonable small.

    The obvious difference (except the library size) which I spot is that you donít scan tags like COMMENT and LYRICS which potentially can contain really long texts. As mentioned in my previous post Iím not sure if these might cause performance issues.
    Certainly if any searching is done on comments or lyrics, particularly likes with wildcards, that could be a problem. I don't see any other obvious causes for long delays.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PasTim View Post
    Certainly if any searching is done on comments or lyrics, particularly likes with wildcards, that could be a problem. I don't see any other obvious causes for long delays.
    My problem was the long delay on browsing MOOD and STYLE tags. Removing COMMENTS and LYRICS helped a lot. I will add COMMENTS again, as i need them, to see if LYRICS was the problem alone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mamema View Post
    My problem was the long delay on browsing MOOD and STYLE tags. Removing COMMENTS and LYRICS helped a lot. I will add COMMENTS again, as i need them, to see if LYRICS was the problem alone.
    I guess you know that both LYRICS and COMMENT are scanned into the database with the standard scanner, so the only reason I can see to have them in Custom Scan configuration is if you have menus to browse by lyrics or comments. Depending what you use COMMENT tag for it can of course be justified to be be able to browse by comments and then it needs to be in Custom Scan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mamema View Post
    My problem was the long delay on browsing MOOD and STYLE tags. Removing COMMENTS and LYRICS helped a lot. I will add COMMENTS again, as i need them, to see if LYRICS was the problem alone.
    As a matter of interest, what sort of thing do you include in MOOD and STYLE?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PasTim View Post
    As a matter of interest, what sort of thing do you include in MOOD and STYLE?
    exactly that! :-)

    MOOD and STYLE are tags you will find in the usual discogs and musicbrainz sources.....

    Mood has values like: relaxed, happy, sad... and so on.
    Style has a more detailed listing of the music style. As i'm very strict with my genres, which i'm completely in control and tagged by myself without the chance that musicbrainz, discogs sources could overwrite them, then STYLE is (from those sources) more detailed, so it might be for example my genre "World" is flagged there with "African Traditions".

    Thanks again to @erland explainig the tag usage. Learned something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mamema View Post
    exactly that! :-)

    MOOD and STYLE are tags you will find in the usual discogs and musicbrainz sources.....

    Mood has values like: relaxed, happy, sad... and so on.
    Style has a more detailed listing of the music style. As i'm very strict with my genres, which i'm completely in control and tagged by myself without the chance that musicbrainz, discogs sources could overwrite them, then STYLE is (from those sources) more detailed, so it might be for example my genre "World" is flagged there with "African Traditions".

    Thanks again to @erland explainig the tag usage. Learned something.
    I don't, and never have used discogs or musicbrainz, so am not familiar with their terms. Their tags for classical music are hopeless. The terms you use are certainly short enough that they shouldn't cause issues. I use WORK, which is often 30 characters or more, and doesn't cause issues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PasTim View Post
    I don't, and never have used discogs or musicbrainz, so am not familiar with their terms. Their tags for classical music are hopeless. The terms you use are certainly short enough that they shouldn't cause issues. I use WORK, which is often 30 characters or more, and doesn't cause issues.
    Maybe short, maybe not. I've seen some style tags that have 15 or 20 different styles listed in the same tag field.
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    Quote Originally Posted by garym View Post
    Maybe short, maybe not. I've seen some style tags that have 15 or 20 different styles listed in the same tag field.
    I struggle to imagine one track having that many styles. Maybe due to indecision on the part of the person defining them?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PasTim View Post
    I struggle to imagine one track having that many styles. Maybe due to indecision on the part of the person defining them?
    I didn't notice that the style tag was being added when I first started ripping with dbpoweramp. Then at some point I discovered the style tag in my files (all long since deleted). The ones added via the online databases were almost entirely junk. I recall a track on Jimi Hendrix, "Are You Experienced" album having a long list of styles (with things like: rock, pop, metal, reggae, world, soul, country, bluegrass, blues, etc.). In other words, everything but the kitchen sink.
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