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  1. #31
    Daryle A. Tilroe
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    Discussion list overload and Gossamer Forum

    Daniel Cohen wrote:

    > On 27/11/04 at 11:05 am -0800, BigHam wrote
    >
    >> don't understand all these emails stating they don't want to goto a
    >> web forum... you won't have to.
    >>
    >> One nice feature of Gossamer Forums is that it allows e-mail
    >> subcriptions,
    >> which lets folks get daily digests if they prefer.

    >
    >
    > But I don't want daily digests, I want individual messages. Some email
    > programs can split digests into messages for one, but not all can.
    >
    > (etc, etc)


    Ditto, Ditto, Ditto, etc... :-)

    --
    Daryle A. Tilroe

  2. #32
    Niek Jongerius
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    Discussion list overload and Gossamer Forum

    My EUR 0.02 on this...

    I would prefer to keep the email list as is. I am one of those
    people stuck in the middle ages (as my boss would tell me) - I
    still prefer a character terminal to do most of my work (don't
    even dare try take my HP 700/60 away from me).

    However, I can see that the load of the list can overwhelm others
    (especially newcomers). Isn't there a way to do both? I haven't
    much experience with web-based forums, but I can't imagine that
    firing off a separate email to the email-diehards for each entry
    in the forum is an unheard-of feature in forum software. The other
    way round should also be possible.

    Also, I would hate to see some contributors be less productive (or
    even leave altogether).

    In short, my vote is for keeping the list, or getting some forum SW
    that can maintain an email feed both ways.

    Regards, Niek.

  3. #33
    Steve Baumgarten
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    Discussion list overload and Gossamer Forum

    > Have you considered just filtering [slim] traffic into it's own
    > folder to deal with at your convenience. I, and I'm sure others,
    > do this with procmail for all the lists we subscribe to. Keeps
    > everything nice and organized and nothing but personally addressed
    > stuff hits my inbox.


    This is how I have things set up. I would imagine that mixing the
    Slimdevices mailing list traffic in with all your other personal mail
    would be somewhat overwhelming; having it all reside in its own folder,
    nicely threaded, seems a sensible first step in managing volume.

    SBB

  4. #34
    Steve Baumgarten
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    Discussion list overload and Gossamer Forum

    > I agree to, NNTP from gmane is much better.

    Yes, I'd be interested in finding out how a web-based forum is better or
    more functional than pointing a decent news reader (e.g., Agent or Mozilla
    Thunderbird or even Outlook Express for that matter) at news.gmane.org and
    reading and posting to the Slimdevices mailing lists that way.

    Do that and you reduce the Slimdevices email volume to zero; you have
    threading and history and search capabilities; and people who prefer to
    participate in the list via email can continue to do so, receiving
    messages either individually or as part of multi-message digests, as they
    prefer.

    Seems the best of all worlds. As long as the generous people at gmane.org
    are making this service available, why not take advantage of it?

    As a test, I just pointed Thunderbird at news.gmane.org. It took about 30
    seconds to walk through the configuration wizard and subscribe to the
    Slimdevices newsgroups. At that point I saw in my newsreader pretty much
    exactly what I was looking at in my mailbox (the most recent few hundred
    messages, threaded). Quite simple, and it may be just what people who are
    feeling overwhelmed by mailing list traffic are looking for.

    SBB

  5. #35
    Steve Baumgarten
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    Discussion list overload and Gossamer Forum

    > I have to agree with others in this thread that if the volume of
    > messages is getting unmanageable for someone, it's probably a client
    > issue. A web forum would really be a client change, but one that we'd
    > all have to make.


    A quick last word from me, since I've already mentioned news.gmane.org in
    another posting. For what it's worth, I'm voting to keep the mailing list
    as is.

    And just to keep this from being entirely a "me too" post: this list (in
    whatever form it ultimately takes) is one of the best things about the
    Squeezebox and Slimdevices generally. Knowing that help is out there if
    you need it; that people are actively working on improvements and tweaks;
    that the user community and the core developers at Slimdevices are always
    open to suggestions -- it's just huge, and I'm always glad to be a part of
    it, even if mostly as a reader of this list.

    SBB

  6. #36
    Jules Taplin
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    Discussion list overload and Gossamer Forum

    Actually... mixing slimdevices traffic and my personal mail is _EXACTLY_
    what I do with it, for what it's worth. Given that tracking software
    products is about all I do with this domain, it's either mailing list
    mail, or somebody talking to me about a product that's to do with a list

    Interestingly... I can't see how I'd convert that to a forum at all. One
    of the good things about mail is that you can go between on-list,
    off-list, and other-list items, and track conversations between all
    three, in a way that would be completely impossible on a set of threaded
    forums.


    -- Jules

    Steve Baumgarten wrote:

    >>Have you considered just filtering [slim] traffic into it's own
    >>folder to deal with at your convenience. I, and I'm sure others,
    >>do this with procmail for all the lists we subscribe to. Keeps
    >>everything nice and organized and nothing but personally addressed
    >>stuff hits my inbox.
    >>
    >>

    >
    >This is how I have things set up. I would imagine that mixing the
    >Slimdevices mailing list traffic in with all your other personal mail
    >would be somewhat overwhelming; having it all reside in its own folder,
    >nicely threaded, seems a sensible first step in managing volume.
    >
    >SBB
    >
    >
    >

  7. #37
    Gadfly, Former Founder Slim Devices dean's Avatar
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    Discussion list overload and Gossamer Forum

    Thanks for all the feedback on this topic. It's clear that we
    shouldn't switch to a web-based forum unless there's two-way e-mail
    access as well.

    It may be possible to do this with Gossamer Forum, which already can
    accept e-mail submissions (they've got a neat example here of _lots_ of
    email piped into their forum system:

    http://gossamer-threads.com/lists/

    We'll continue looking into this. Thanks!

    -dean

  8. #38
    John Gorst
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    Discussion list overload and Gossamer Forum

    dean blackketter wrote:
    > Thanks for all the feedback on this topic. It's clear that we shouldn't
    > switch to a web-based forum unless there's two-way e-mail access as well.
    >
    > It may be possible to do this with Gossamer Forum, which already can
    > accept e-mail submissions (they've got a neat example here of _lots_ of
    > email piped into their forum system:
    >
    > http://gossamer-threads.com/lists/
    >
    > We'll continue looking into this. Thanks!


    I did a search about on the gossamer website and apparently there is a
    NNTP gateway plugin being/been developed....

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