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  1. #11
    Malcolm Miles
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    Discussion list overload and Gossamer Forum

    On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 14:43:06 -0700, Jim wrote:

    > I would vote "no" to moving to a web forum, but if I'm outvoted I'll cope.


    I also vote "no" to a Web forum.

    --
    Best wishes,
    Malcolm

  2. #12
    d-mode
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    Discussion list overload and Gossamer Forum

    Email is always best - I like the delivery. I just know I will never GO to
    a forum...

    Andrew

  3. #13
    Stephen Ward
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    Discussion list overload and Gossamer Forum

    Likewise...
    --
    - $.

    Stephen R Ward
    <srward (AT) srward (DOT) com>
    -------------------------------------------------------------
    Drive carefully.
    It's not only cars that can be recalled by their maker.

    On 27 Nov 2004, at 06:35, d-mode wrote:

    > Email is always best - I like the delivery. I just know I will never
    > GO to a forum...
    >
    > Andrew
    >
    >

  4. #14
    Philip Meyer
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    Discussion list overload and Gossamer Forum

    I would much prefer to stick with the email mailing list(s).

    I like to keep track of what mail I have read. I use Forte Agent as a mail client, and find the current level of traffic manageable. The mail is threaded.

    I often dip into my mails, rather than having a few large reading sessions a week. I know what I have left to read, as things are marked accordingly, and things I don't need to read about I can easily ignore. I've set up rules to immediately ignore anything about iTunes, Mac and Linux, for example.

    If the forum software can only mail daily digests, that means no threading. Forums generally only have one level of threading too. You have a main post, followed by lots of sequential messages in the thread, rather than replies to individual messages. It also means we have to scan through the whole days info in one reading, and no filtering can be done.

    There's often a lot of overhead with forum postings - avatars, signatures, html, etc, it all makes for slower reading, IMO.

    Please stick with good old plain emails!

    Phil

  5. #15
    Anthony James
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    Discussion list overload and Gossamer Forum

    I'm only just this moment posted a comment on this on another thread.
    Personally i WOULD be in favour of a forum as i find it difficult at
    present to track down answers to questions that i know must have been
    answered before. I use
    http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb...?s=&forumid=14
    and find it very effective but i've no idea what they're using at the back end.

    I also frequent www.singletrackworld.com whose forum is based on the
    open source (which would fit with the slim ethos) phorum software.
    http://phorum.org/
    One of the benefits is the search function which will allow you to
    save a search as a bookmark which makes it very easy to keep up with a
    particular topic of interest even if you've not visited for a while.

    Finally, if we are to stay with a i'm using Gmail solely for this
    list and find it works very well since it threads replies properly and
    allows searching. If anyone hasn't tried gmail i'd recommend it - the
    web interface is VERY close to a desktop mail application and it can
    be left running in the background. I've got 6 accounts to give people
    at the moment if anyone wants one.

  6. #16
    Robin Bowes
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    Discussion list overload and Gossamer Forum

    Anthony James wrote:
    > On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 14:57:37 -0800, kdf <slim-mail (AT) deane-freeman (DOT) com>

    wrote:
    >
    >>Quoting Michael Herger <slim (AT) herger (DOT) net>:
    >>
    >>>Does anybody know whether there is some "headless" mode for

    MusicMagic? Or
    >>>can I have SlimServer fetch the list from another machine? My server is
    >>>running Linux in text-only mode. I'd have to run MMM on my local

    machine.

    > If it's OK to use this thread as a bit of a Q&A/FAQ for a moment (I
    > have to say that in many ways a forum might work better than this list
    > - using GMail i get the replies threaded but in a pop client I found
    > things very difficult to follow and gmame is not the best for
    > searching.)


    Anthony,

    I'm not sure which thread you replied to but it appeared in my MUA in
    the wrong one - I've "corrected" this by replying to Dean's original post.

    i used to use Outlook for reading mail and found that it's lack of
    threading was a major problem in reading list mail.

    I've since switched to using Mozilla Thunderbird which has excellent
    threading support. It makes following discussions much easier. I
    recommend giving it a go.

    > People have talked about 'headless' mode for applications - what is meant


    Sorry, not sure. For servers, it means running without
    monitor/keyboard/mouse.

    R.
    --
    http://robinbowes.com

  7. #17
    bobv
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    Discussion list overload and Gossamer Forum

    Jim wrote:
    > I find that gmane manages my interface to the list without issue on a
    > platform that's meant to manage this kind of thing (NNTP, that is). The
    > only thing I like less than raw email lists are web forums.
    >
    > I would vote "no" to moving to a web forum, but if I'm outvoted I'll cope.


    Same here.

    -bob

  8. #18
    Joe Hartley
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    Discussion list overload and Gossamer Forum

    On Friday 26 November 2004 11:39, dean blackketter wrote:
    > > I'd like to get some feedback from folks on the list about the volume
    > > of mail on this discussion list.


    The volume is high, but it's still my preferred way of participating.
    I have a threaded mail program (sylpheed for Linux - it's the best
    email client I've used in 25 years of dealing with email) and a filter
    which puts all the list mail into a separate folder. Couldn't be
    easier.

    I wouldn't be as likely to visit a web forum, and while a digest
    isn't a bad option for people, please don't change the current format.

    --
    ================================================== ====================
    Joe Hartley - UNIX/network Consultant - jh (AT) brainiac (DOT) com
    Without deviation from the norm, "progress" is not possible. - FZappa

  9. #19
    Virr
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    Discussion list overload and Gossamer Forum

    Dean,

    Personally I much prefer this list as it is. It can be a bit of
    email, but I can easily skip threads and messages I'm not interested
    in.

    I find that I generally don't like taking part in web forums. They
    take yet another login if you want to post (I have more than I need as
    it is). Lengthy discussions are harder to follow as it is easy to miss
    the newest addition, or if read part of the thread and come back later
    to finish it. At best you have to load individual threads. It is
    harder to store useful information (in mail it doesn't go away until I
    delete it).

    I only took a quick look over the link you included. If I can only
    get a digest of the whole days messages, it isn't very useful to me.
    Currently I filter all slim messages into a separate folder, and then
    my email client puts them in threads (Mail.app on Mac OS X 10.3x) A
    digest wont be threaded. Having individual messages threaded is the
    biggest advantage, and only way I can deal with the amount of messages
    I get.

    Overall I would prefer the email list to remain and email list.

    Darren Cole

    On Nov 26, 2004, at 11:39, dean blackketter wrote:

    > Hi Folks,
    >
    > I'd like to get some feedback from folks on the list about the volume
    > of mail on this discussion list.
    >
    > Despite doing my best to configure my mailer, I'm feeling overwhelmed
    > by the volume of messages. The vast majority of the traffic is great,
    > but we may be reaching the breaking point on the list.
    >
    > One would be to split the list into multiple smaller lists, but I fear
    > that this would fragment the community too much.
    >
    > Personally, I prefer mailing lists to web-based forums, but I think
    > we're reaching the limit of what's manageable on a discussion list.
    > The leading candidate is Gossamer Forum.
    >
    > <http://www.gossamer-threads.com/scripts/gforum/index.htm>
    >
    > One nice feature of Gossamer Forums is that it allows e-mail
    > subcriptions, which lets folks get daily digests if they prefer. I'd
    > like to hear some feedback on this move, especially if anyone has
    > experience with this specific product.
    >
    > Thanks,
    >
    > dean
    >
    >

  10. #20
    Jules Taplin
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    Discussion list overload and Gossamer Forum

    Personally... I'd rather leave them as a mailing list.

    The volume is getting large... but my fix for that is simply not to read
    all the content. I scan rapidly up through the lists, not reading all of
    the dull items, and paying particular attention to anything in my sphere
    of activity (AlienBBC). All slim related mail goes to the same folder...
    so that means I can rapidly and easily answer both direct feedback
    queries, and mailing-list items, without looking on both a web-based
    environment, and clearing my home mail too.

    But... either way... I'm sure I'll manage.


    -- Jules


    Stephen Ward wrote:

    > Likewise...
    > -- - $.
    >
    > Stephen R Ward
    > <srward (AT) srward (DOT) com>
    > -------------------------------------------------------------
    > Drive carefully.
    > It's not only cars that can be recalled by their maker.
    >
    > On 27 Nov 2004, at 06:35, d-mode wrote:
    >
    >> Email is always best - I like the delivery. I just know I will never
    >> GO to a forum...
    >>
    >> Andrew
    >>
    >>

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