Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

[cfuttrup]

:-)

[svberger]

Well a nice surprise this morning. Decided to try and investigate why I was "only" getting 96KHz on Qobuz streams that provide up to 192. I have been using EDO. First, I connected a USB instead of the optical that I was using, rebooted my SB Touch, and voila!, was able to get it 192, but with dropouts that I have experienced in the past using USB. So I connected to ethernet even though I have extremely fast Wi-Fi, and that didn't help it. So decided that I would settle for 96. I disconnected the USB, disconnected ethernet, put the optical back in, changed a couple of settings on the SB(honestly can't remember exactly what, though), rebooted, and double Voila!...192 still playing, and with no dropouts! Why, how, what?? Beats me. Maybe setting changes, maybe reboots, but I'm getting 192 streams on my SMSL SU-9 DAC now without any issues, using optical and no ethernet.


Gremlins must've decided to let me have my pudding and eat it too. No other explanation.

[DSteiNeuro]

Wow! Just figured it out after at least 5 years of trying (off and on).
I was synching the EDO Squeezebox from my whole house SB Touch which doesn’t have EDO.

Once I put the EDO SB in stand alone mode, I was in business with the digital coax. The toslink lost the signal.

Dumb me, yay! Sounds pretty decent!

[DSteiNeuro]

I am running a Squeezebox Touch with EDO into a Bel Canto DAC 3.5VB and have no problem with 96 kHz source but no long with 192 kHz.

I have tried both Coax Spdif (Cardas digital) and toslink optical with no luck with the 192.
Source has included the Linn test files and 192 kHz playlist from Qobuz.

I know properly already discussed but I can’t find an answer.

[MorpheusUK]

Solution: Missing Digital Output and EDO saying reinstall

Hello All,

I have 4 SBTs and I know I am late to the party, but decided to install EDO to access 192K material.

All SBTs are at 7.8....xx version

After going to App Gallery>3rd Party Apps etc, and installing EDO they all only reboot once and then seemingly that's it - they don't install a kernel and do the second reboot - and nor is EDO active.
In the Apps Gallery the EDO applet is listed as Re-Install - not Un-Install - so I assume it has not installed as evident above.
I then try installing the Kernel Updater in the Apps Gallery and that too ends up in a 'Re-Install' state.

I have of course tried then re-installing EDO but of course the status quo remains.
This happens on all 4 SBTs.

I have done a full factory reset - upgraded to 7.8 - that all goes well and all SBTs upgrade to latest firmware.
I am logged into Squeezebox.com in LMS.

If anyone can help in this regard it would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

Just had a similar problem running the 8.0.community firmware and the original 7.x Logitech ones on my Squeezebox Touch where there was no Digital Output menu option or message about EDO on the boot screen. So just In case anybody else has a similar issue like the above with the reinstall state and missing Digital Output page, it also turned out to be a networking issue but not firewall related (my guess is the DNS response might be a bit too slow). In my case the touch is connected to a secondary router via Ethernet which is in WiFi bridge mode and for whatever reason that seemed to stop it consistently being able to download the applet properly. I connected it directly to my main router, selected reinstall and it then downloaded the applet rebooted and downloaded and installed the kernel then prompted for the Digital Output destination.

Hope this helps someone in the future

Third time lucky as I accidentally deleted two of my posts for this whilst trying to fix typos on my phone. The original problem one and then the first version of the above. Sorry if anybody has started reading either

[MyNaimIs]

The USB cable was indeed the key. Turns out the Oppo can only do 24-bit/192-kHz through the USB.

Much obliged!

[slartibartfast]

Edit: I'm suggestioning that you should connect the touch and dac with a usb2 cable and reboot the Touch (with the dac powered on).

You should then see the dac in the output list, select it and the Touch will reboot and install the kernel for the dac.

Then choose the option for digital only (if that is what you want)

I think a handshake is needed between the dac and touch for 192kHz.

Ignore most of the stuff below

ronnie

If you see only "Digital Output" at #6, the dac has not been identified.

You should see the option to select the dac as output, when you do, the Touch should reboot.

Things to check:

Is the dac powered on

On the touch; go to Settings > Advanced > scroll down to software update > you may have a choice of software

Reset the Touch and go through the procedure again; If you connect to mysqueezebox.com, check and select the offered software change

Then install EDO (it should be available at step #2), Aafter installation, again check for a software update (is should offer lms or mysqueeze)

It's all a bit tedious I know

There is no guarantee that it will work

There was link to a spreadsheet with details of working dacs but that seems to have been deleted ?

ronnie

The spreadsheet is still there but seems to have pages missing.

Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk

[Man in a van]

Ugh. Could use some suggestions on where I have gone wrong.

Touch connected via ethernet cable. Coax from touch to Oppo bdp-105. Works flawlessly at 96/24, but I cannot seem to achieve any sound at 192khz. Using Roon. When I select the 192 khz file, the album art shows on the Touch, but no sound.

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1) Ensure your Squeezebox Touch is running 7.7.x or later firmware
Done

2) Go to Apps Gallery -> 3rd Party Apps on the touch screen
Done

3) Deselect the "recommended applets only" option, so that you see a longer list of apps
Done

4) Select "Enhanced Digital Output" and select it for installation
Done

5) Your touch should download the app, reboot, then download a new custom linux kernel and reboot again.
Done

6) You should now get a list of possible output devices - this should include "Digital Output" and your USB Dac if it is plugged in, select the appropriate output

Shows Digital Only [current], but when I press on that, nothing happens. I tried switching to a digital optical cable but no change. When it boots up, it indicates that EDO is installed. Tried uninstalling and reinstalling. Is it not recognizing the DAC for some reason?

Edit: I'm suggestioning that you should connect the touch and dac with a usb2 cable and reboot the Touch (with the dac powered on).

You should then see the dac in the output list, select it and the Touch will reboot and install the kernel for the dac.

Then choose the option for digital only (if that is what you want)

I think a handshake is needed between the dac and touch for 192kHz.

Ignore most of the stuff below

ronnie

If you see only "Digital Output" at #6, the dac has not been identified.

You should see the option to select the dac as output, when you do, the Touch should reboot.

Things to check:

Is the dac powered on

On the touch; go to Settings > Advanced > scroll down to software update > you may have a choice of software

Reset the Touch and go through the procedure again; If you connect to mysqueezebox.com, check and select the offered software change

Then install EDO (it should be available at step #2), Aafter installation, again check for a software update (is should offer lms or mysqueeze)

It's all a bit tedious I know

There is no guarantee that it will work

There was link to a spreadsheet with details of working dacs but that seems to have been deleted ?

ronnie

[MyNaimIs]

Ugh. Could use some suggestions on where I have gone wrong.

Touch connected via ethernet cable. Coax from touch to Oppo bdp-105. Works flawlessly at 96/24, but I cannot seem to achieve any sound at 192khz. Using Roon. When I select the 192 khz file, the album art shows on the Touch, but no sound.

--

1) Ensure your Squeezebox Touch is running 7.7.x or later firmware
Done

2) Go to Apps Gallery -> 3rd Party Apps on the touch screen
Done

3) Deselect the "recommended applets only" option, so that you see a longer list of apps
Done

4) Select "Enhanced Digital Output" and select it for installation
Done

5) Your touch should download the app, reboot, then download a new custom linux kernel and reboot again.
Done

6) You should now get a list of possible output devices - this should include "Digital Output" and your USB Dac if it is plugged in, select the appropriate output

Shows Digital Only [current], but when I press on that, nothing happens. I tried switching to a digital optical cable but no change. When it boots up, it indicates that EDO is installed. Tried uninstalling and reinstalling. Is it not recognizing the DAC for some reason?

[JohnQCitizen]

I ploughed through this thread but could not find anyone who has reported using the new Modius with an SBT on EDO 1.0. Everything appears to be OK except that there is no sound. SBT recognises the DAC as Schitt Modius Unison USB and also displays the sampling rates of the different tracks being played.

Just no music; not a mouse stirring. Feeling a bit shitty.

Same here :-(

I got a Modius DAC this week. I installed EDO, set the digital output to USB, the DAC is recognized and shows output info but no sound. I've confirmed the correct inputs, etc. Coax and optical outputs of the Squeezebox touch work correctly to the same DAC. I've tried various digital output USB settings but to no avail. I've never used USB digital output of my squeezebox touch, and have no other devices that I can connect for testing.

Just wondering if a solution was found for this issue?

Info:

Server: Version: 8.1.1 - 1610364020 @ Thu Jan 14 06:27:19 CET 2021
Player: Firmware: 7.8.0-r16754
EDO: 0.10 (is there a later version?)

edit: seems to be a common issue, so I am assuming that EDO is not compatible with the USB implementation in this DAC.

[Shivaji]

Thanks for the suggestions.

[Man in a van]

I have EDO installed. As of yesterday, the Touch no longer shows USB option when I click on select audio output. I have uninstalled the app and reinstalled it to no avail.

Not much information to go on here

So a couple of suggestions:

Reset the touch (press the small button above the power inlet at power on).

or

Connect the Touch to mysqueezebox.com; check if a change of software is offered. If it is, proceed with the update.

Then reinstall EDO.

Edit: if you then connect to your local lms, you will be offered another software update; accept this. It may be necessary to reinstall EDO

Make sure the Dac is connected and powered on whilst trying these suggestions.

More info about your set-up may help, including what happened when things went wrong

ronnie

[Shivaji]

EDO issue?

I have EDO installed. As of yesterday, the Touch no longer shows USB option when I click on select audio output. I have uninstalled the app and reinstalled it to no avail.

[mo5265654]

Thanks for your testing.

This evening I switched on the DAC first and when it had booted (it really boots and needs some time ), I started a playlist on the Touch and it worked that way.
Will keep an eye and look at the threads you referred to.

Thanks

[Man in a van]

After my last posting I powered off the Touch and dac in the sequence described.

I have just powered on the devices (after 90 minutes) as per the posting and the only difference is that the Touch booted to the home screen without playing music.

I tapped the quaver icon and the now playing screen said "Stopped" I tapped play and the station stared playing again

ronnie