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    "Version Comparison Fix"

    Good Morning

    I am running LMS 8.3.0 and the Settings / Information page tells me under Player Information "You seem to be using a Squeezebox with an outdated firmware, not recognizing this version of Logitech Media Server. Please consider using the Community Firmware plugin, or patching the device's firmware (get more information)."

    I followed the instructions on the linked page /html/docs/radio-compatibility.html, but once the Patch Installer has been installed, I do not find the "Version Comparison Fix". Any tips?

    I am not installing the Community Firmware yet, as I understand I lose the embedded LMS (Tiny SC?), which I'd like to play with at least once - the SBT is new to me, but second hand.

    BTW: Firmware: 7.8.0-r16754.
    Last edited by chrisinparis; 2022-09-21, 12:05. Reason: SBT FW info

    #2
    I haven't done this in a long time, and only on a radio, but one thing that might trip you up is this:

    you install the patch installer applet from the applet installer menu, then you need to go to the patch installer menu to install the version comparison patch, so, a different menu.

    I can't remember if you need to power cycle the device, I don't think so. But, you will need to stop/restart LMS (after installing) for the warning you are seeing to go away

    Regarding tiny LMS - no offense to the original developers, but it's not worth playing with. Would you drive a rusted out ford pinto (famous for rear impact gas tank explosions) if you have a corvette in the garage? . Seriously, it's limited, and does not support https (most radio stations) only http. Try to ask it to do too much, and it crashes. You have already moved past it if you have LMS running on another machine. It was removed from community firmware both because of this and other reasons.

    As an aside, I run touches on the stock firmware, have not tried community, and they work fine. You can also always revert,

    Jim

    <edit - I also believe that with 8.2 and above, you can just disregard this message. Corrections welcome>

    <edit 2 - here's the original thread on the patch, back then just for the radio https://forums.slimdevices.com/showt...-required-quot
    Last edited by Redrum; 2022-09-21, 13:06.

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      #3
      Originally posted by chrisinparis View Post
      Good Morning

      I am running LMS 8.3.0 and the Settings / Information page tells me under Player Information "You seem to be using a Squeezebox with an outdated firmware, not recognizing this version of Logitech Media Server. Please consider using the Community Firmware plugin, or patching the device's firmware (get more information)."

      I followed the instructions on the linked page /html/docs/radio-compatibility.html, but once the Patch Installer has been installed, I do not find the "Version Comparison Fix". Any tips?

      I am not installing the Community Firmware yet, as I understand I lose the embedded LMS (Tiny SC?), which I'd like to play with at least once - the SBT is new to me, but second hand.

      BTW: Firmware: 7.8.0-r16754.
      If your player is a Touch I don't think a patch exists but you just need to upgrade to the latest Touch official firmware. One way to do that would be to temporarily install LMS 7.9, perform a software update then reinstall 8.3.

      Edit. Your firmware version is the latest for the Touch so no idea why you are seeing the warning.

      Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk
      Last edited by slartibartfast; 2022-09-21, 13:44.
      Living Room: Touch or Squeezelite (Pi3B) > Topping E30 > Audiolab 8000A > Monitor Audio S5 + BK200-XLS DF
      Bedroom: Radio
      Bathroom: Radio

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        #4
        sorry if I sent you down the wrong path, I wasn't thinking to straight before my first cup. I have allot of radios and did the patch often pre 8.2, so my typing was a reflex action. I have never had to do anything to the touch (as @slarti mentioned). But I do remember reading that the touch, controller, similar were added to the message?

        I stand my my tiny LMS comments

        You could also try doing a factory reset to the touch, then restart LMS, all the while with fingers crossed.

        Jim

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          #5
          Gone now

          Thanks for the replies.

          I had not restarted LMS as I thought there was no need, as I had not found "Version Comparison Fix". But later I was at the server, so just did a restart anyway - now the message is gone.

          The embedded server I thought could be useful for easily playing a USB key of music for example - a quick adhoc solution. Also I though it could be useful for radio if no server on (but then again there is http://mysqueezebox.com), but generally I understand a proper LMS is the way to go (just need to find a low energy solution).

          And I've been wanting to play around with the embedded server of a touch ever since it was announced many years ago. Really happy I was able to pick up an SBT recently

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            #6
            Originally posted by chrisinparis View Post
            And I've been wanting to play around with the embedded server of a touch ever since it was announced many years ago. Really happy I was able to pick up an SBT recently
            The embedded server of a touch was an after thought because the developers realized it "might" work. Causes lots of headaches and never works quite good enough. And now, with rPi units that can serve as small, low power draw, full power LMS servers (running, eg., piCorePlayer), there is really no reason to even play with the embedded server.
            Home: Pi4B-8GB/pCP8.2.x/4TB>LMS 8.3.x>Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio (all ethernet)
            Cottage: rPi4B-4GB/pCP8.2.x/4TB>LMS 8.3.x>Touch>Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (Radio WIFI)
            Office: Win11(64)>foobar2000
            The Wild: rPi3B+/pCP7.x/4TB>LMS 8.1.x>hifiberry Dac+Pro (LMS & Squeezelite)
            Controllers: iPhone14Pro & iPadAir5 (iPeng), CONTROLLER, Material Skin, or SqueezePlay 7.8 on Win10(64)
            Files: Ripping: dBpoweramp > FLAC; Post-rip: mp3tag, PerfectTunes, TuneFusion; Streaming: Spotify

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              #7
              Originally posted by garym View Post
              The embedded server of a touch was an after thought because the developers realized it "might" work. Causes lots of headaches and never works quite good enough. And now, with rPi units that can serve as small, low power draw, full power LMS servers (running, eg., piCorePlayer), there is really no reason to even play with the embedded server.
              we discourage using tiny LMS it a touch, but it does work, albeit limited and unstable. I set one up for a non technical friend thinking this would be the perfect solution for him (his library on a USB stick, a few radio stations). It did work, but crashed so many times and there were all sorts of stations he wanted to, but could not play. He ended up having "feature creep" He originally wanted a few radio stations and a small library un USB, but then "can it do this"? "No", "can it do this?" "No"...I ended up getting him a rpi 3b+ and installed picoreplayer.

              One of the things to remember about tiny LMS is some time after the touch was released, it was no longer developed or supported, and in the mean time, real LMS blossomed into what it is today.

              Also, yes, there is mysb.com, but it also is no longer developed, and as a result, for example, you cannot stream https, only http streams, just like tiny LMS

              So Chris, give it a try, why not? If anything it will make you appreciate LMS more

              Glad your pesky message is gone...

              Jim

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                #8
                Well I'm gone now (the SBT is in a house in FR, I am on the way back to CH). Never did get round to trying out Tiny SC (even bearing in mind all that has been said). The temporary solution is a windows pc (but even there noticed just before leaving some mp4s were not playing); ultimately I have in mind a raspi or other low energy solution. That will be for the next trip.

                At home I am still running LMS 7.8 on an ancient Mac mini (no change in 10 years or so), but after seeing LMS 8.3 I need to switch to that . Things like the Radio Now Playing and Mixcloud plugins.

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