Squeezebox Radio drops Wi-Fi signal

[Paul Webster]

Has your new box picked up an IP address from your main router?
If yes - then try using that IP address rather than tplinkwifi.net

[P Nelson]

I connected it via client mode but I still need to know how to get into the router by my computer via http://tplinkwifi.net, always get the error message from the site.
I connected the tp link to the squeezebox via ethernet cable clicked on the network listed and the password could not access internet. Forgive me but this kind of stuff puzzles me not understanding how all this works.

I am going by memory on setting up the Tp-link N300 (WR802) router and looking at the set-up guide. Here is what I suggest:
1. Use the provided ethernet cable to connect your computer to the TP-link router.
2. Use 192.168.1.1 or 192.168.0.1 to connect to the TP link. When asked for the password, use the one printed on the box.
3. You should now be logged into the Tp Link. Use the Quick Set up and select the Client Mode option.
4. At some point it going to ask which SSID to use. Select your main Wi-Fi router's SSID and enter its password. (This is NOT the one printed on the tplink N300 box)
5. Complete the Quick Set Up. It will probably reboot.
6. Confirm you can access the internet by going to a webpage.
7. Unplug your computer from tplink router.
8. Plug the provided ethernet cable from the TP-link and into the SB Radio.
9. Go into the SB Radio: Settings > Advanced > Networking. Select ethernet.

[jimradio]

Thank you: I will give it a shot.

[jimradio]

First I want to thank you guy's for your help. It finely dawned on me that what was meant by not connected to the router. I brought up the wi-fi network & internet setting and clicked on TP-Link, then everything fell into place. Sorry for all the whining. You guy's are great.

[Redrum]

First I want to thank you guy's for your help. It finely dawned on me that what was meant by not connected to the router. I brought up the wi-fi network & internet setting and clicked on TP-Link, then everything fell into place. Sorry for all the whining. You guy's are great.

Glad you got it settled. Don't apologize, you weren't whining...you want to see some real whining..

Jim

[BoxFox]

Hej!

My SB Radios are from the 90's but still the best device I can find for my purpose. But the Wifi dropouts get more and more. Wlanpoke is solving it but with a short interruption. Now I bought a Vonets VAP11N-300 for some other reason. I gave it a try on one of my SB and the network connection was stabile again.

Now I try to solve two issues and wonder if you have experience and can help/guide me:

a) Did anybody try to connect the Vonets to the buildin battery of the SB Radio? Any dokumentation about the cabling of the battery available?
b) Would the Vonets fit into the housing of the SB Radio? Never opened one of them.

Med vänliga hälsningar
Tobias

[Redrum]

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a) Did anybody try to connect the Vonets to the buildin battery of the SB Radio? Any dokumentation about the cabling of the battery available?
b) Would the Vonets fit into the housing of the SB Radio? Never opened one of them.

Good question, no answers

Here is a video on how to disassemble the radio. Just watch ort try it yourself. Read the comments because I think the video does one of the steps wrong - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpHz..._channel=sfred
.

Jim

[agbagb]

Hej!

My SB Radios are from the 90's but still the best device I can find for my purpose. But the Wifi dropouts get more and more. Wlanpoke is solving it but with a short interruption. Now I bought a Vonets VAP11N-300 for some other reason. I gave it a try on one of my SB and the network connection was stabile again.

Now I try to solve two issues and wonder if you have experience and can help/guide me:

a) Did anybody try to connect the Vonets to the buildin battery of the SB Radio? Any dokumentation about the cabling of the battery available?
b) Would the Vonets fit into the housing of the SB Radio? Never opened one of them.

Med vänliga hälsningar
Tobias

I thought about b) as well - let us all know how you get on! And a) is an interesting thought! I guess you're saying, can the SB battery power the Vonets when both the Vonets and the Radio are not powered from the mains wall sockets? I'm no expert these days (if I ever was.....), but the physical wiring would be a tad messy, no? Unless you can get the Vonets in the Radio, and power both Radio and Vonets from the battery option when the Radio is mains-unplugged. I'm going to take a guess that there isn't room inside the Radio for the Vonets, which is about 9x5x1.5 cm. Well, that's the case of course - I opened the Vonets case to put tape over the very bright LEDs, and of course the circuit board itself is a lot smaller .....

[EDIT] I guess that a big question other than the physical difficulty is whether the Radio battery has the juice to power both the Radio and the Vonets, at all, or for very long .......

Interesting!

[agbagb]

Good question, no answers

Here is a video on how to disassemble the radio. Just watch ort try it yourself. Read the comments because I think the video does one of the steps wrong - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpHz..._channel=sfred
.

Jim

I'd not seen that video before..... It has me a tad puzzled - if all he did was to use contact cleaner spray down into the face of the 2 rotary assembies (Volume and Menu), could he not have done that with no more disassembly than removing the knobs? AFIKS, taking the Radio apart, while interesting, gave no more access than he had before he took it apart......

Another oddity - why is the Radio power button rotated 90deg clockwise on his machine? All mine have the little bar cutting the circle vertically (as standard), not horizontally.....

[Redrum]

I thought about b) as well - let us all know how you get on! And a) is an interesting thought! I guess you're saying, can the SB battery power the Vonets when both the Vonets and the Radio are not powered from the mains wall sockets? I'm no expert these days (if I ever was.....), but the physical wiring would be a tad messy, no? Unless you can get the Vonets in the Radio, and power both Radio and Vonets from the battery option when the Radio is mains-unplugged. I'm going to take a guess that there isn't room inside the Radio for the Vonets, which is about 9x5x1.5 cm. Well, that's the case of course - I opened the Vonets case to put tape over the very bright LEDs, and of course the circuit board itself is a lot smaller .....

[EDIT] I guess that a big question other than the physical difficulty is whether the Radio battery has the juice to power both the Radio and the Vonets, at all, or for very long .......

Interesting!

I am one of the lucky ones that don't have an issue with radio connections (cross fingers, knock on plastic,...) but I had thought of a disassembled vonet (or others) that would fit into that cavity on the back of the radio, maybe protrude out a bit (or alot, it could be an assembly that looks like a kick stand for the radio, similar to the touch).

My thought was to use the ethernet, line in, DC in jacks as a plug in "mount" for the module, have the PS plug into the module and provide power to the radio and vonet, ethernet from the vonet to the radio, and pass through the line in if desired. So basically what you would have is a plug in module:

DC supply->module->radio jack & vonet
Wifi->vonet (in module)->radio ethernet
line in->module->radio jack (pass through)

It does not address battery, but that is something I have thought of** as well

"thought of" - idea that I have not followed up on, i.e. thinking - not doing

Jim

[Redrum]

I'd not seen that video before..... It has me a tad puzzled - if all he did was to use contact cleaner spray down into the face of the 2 rotary assembies (Volume and Menu), could he not have done that with no more disassembly than removing the knobs? AFIKS, taking the Radio apart, while interesting, gave no more access than he had before he took it apart......

Another oddity - why is the Radio power button rotated 90deg clockwise on his machine? All mine have the little bar cutting the circle vertically (as standard), not horizontally.....

wow, I had not noticed that, nor had I checked it for issues. I do remember thinking "what is the point of this video?" But thought it was a resource for taking it apart. Disclaimer, I have never taken one apart

The power button, it's proper when he starts (see early on), but he reassembles it wrong

Jim

[agbagb]

I'm sure this must have been asked and answered before (though I can't anything......) - it is feasible to simply replace the Radio's wifi card? On the YouTube disassembly video, there's a plastic wall behind the control / screen panel he takes out, and I'm imaginging the existing card is behind that...... I'm not the tinkerer I used to be (aging hands and eyes), but I don have 2 spare Radios and I'd be prepared to give it a go with one of them, if I knew there was at least some reasonable prospect of success ......

[Redrum]

I'm sure this must have been asked and answered before (though I can't anything......) - it is feasible to simply replace the Radio's wifi card? On the YouTube disassembly video, there's a plastic wall behind the control / screen panel he takes out, and I'm imaginging the existing card is behind that...... I'm not the tinkerer I used to be (aging hands and eyes), but I don have 2 spare Radios and I'd be prepared to give it a go with one of them, if I knew there was at least some reasonable prospect of success ......

In the tens of thousands of radio wifi posts I think it has been brought up, but never discussed in detail. To me the show stopper is lack of schematics. I would think with the many experts here, including logi engineers, that if feasible, it would have been suggested. I know with the receiver the WIFI SOC is a "module" and replaceable

The schematics would also really help with the whole battery powering the vonet thing. The radio processor is sensing line power or not, if present, charging the battery while monitoring it, if not present, switching over to battery and obviously not charging, but still monitoring. So to understand how this is happening would shed light.

I also have a couple spare radios (I seem to collect them ), I'd be happy to pull one apart with ya, and see what we see, let me know

In my mind the vonet and similar solution is the easiest solution for stationary radios. I feel (hunch) that solving the battery power aspect would be easier than fixing the radios wifi. To me, that;s an easier get, if it is possible.

BTW, you are only as old as your fingers feel .

Jim

[agbagb]

In the tens of thousands of radio wifi posts I think it has been brought up, but never discussed in detail. To me the show stopper is lack of schematics. I would think with the many experts here, including logi engineers, that if feasible, it would have been suggested. I know with the receiver the WIFI SOC is a "module" and replaceable

The schematics would also really help with the whole battery powering the vonet thing. The radio processor is sensing line power or not, if present, charging the battery while monitoring it, if not present, switching over to battery and obviously not charging, but still monitoring. So to understand how this is happening would shed light.

I also have a couple spare radios (I seem to collect them ), I'd be happy to pull one apart with ya, and see what we see, let me know

In my mind the vonet and similar solution is the easiest solution for stationary radios. I feel (hunch) that solving the battery power aspect would be easier than fixing the radios wifi. To me, that;s an easier get, if it is possible.

BTW, you are only as old as your fingers feel .

Jim

Well, the fingers are broken as well as well-aged (and only repairing themselves slowly....)! The eyesight might get better - I'm having a cataract op at the end of this month!

A "compromise" might be that, if the radio card does lie towards the back of the unit, and is separate from any other electronics, it could be removed, thus making internal space for the (eg) bare Vonets card and its existing connectors (might need a few heat vent holes drilled in the case...). If it's separate, maybe it has a little wire loom, which must have power from both the mains and the battery, so that wire loom could perhaps power the Vonets, without us having to know the details of its schematics?

As to the Radio battery perhaps being able to power both the Radio (as designed to do) and the Vonets, I see that it's an NMH 12v / 2000mAh / 24Wh job, with 5 wires. Hmmmm. The Radio power supply is 18v, as we know. The Vonets asks for 5 - 15v - but someone in one of these threads established from Vonets themselves that the range is actually larger, and that the 18v from the Radio power pack is unlikely to overpower it, when the pass-through wiring option is used.

So I'm kind of seeing - a Vonets card (card only, no case) mounted inside the Radio, where the (now-useless) original wifi card was; some heat vent holes are added to the case if needed. Power comes into the Radio in the usual way, via the existing power supply and case mounted socket. That power gets to the battery in some way we don't need to know. The old wifi (maybe) had a wire loom that supplied it with power from either the mains or the battery. That loom is somehow physically adapted to power the Vonets card (which may or may not work.....). The Vonets ethernet cable somehow gets routed to the existing Radio ethernet socket - the "easy" way is to drill a hole in the back of the Radio case, lead the ethernet cable out, and plug it into the existing LAN input. Howver, once the thing is in bits, it may be that the LAN connection can be done within the case.

Sounds like a project to me!

[Redrum]

agbagb - take a look at the video at 6:54. I am not saying he is right, but if indeed a wifi IC was used as apposed to module/COB, and that is it, you gain no space

I can't really tell much from a video. I'll try to get some time next week to open one up and see if I can get some sort of ID markings.

I'm not saying it's going to lead anywhere, but it might be a good educational exploration. But without schematics/pcb layout, etc. it's a bit of a blind exploration.

Best of luck for your cataract procedure. I have not had one yet, but I remember when my mother had hers, she said the biggest change was more vibrant colors. That red radio will really look good!

Jim