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    Replacing (not repairing) farty speaker - what do I need to know?

    One of my trusty SB Radios has developed the dreaded-but-common "farty speaker" issue.
    Removing the grill I can see that more than half of the surround has detached (guess it's had enough of my Morrissey Mullen when I'm cooking!).
    I've seen the articles and videos on repairing this, but it seems a real faff for such a large detachment, so I'm thinking about replacement rather than repair.
    Replacement speakers (e.g. Dayton Audio) still seem to be available at reasonable prices, but I haven't found any old threads or YouTube videos about replacing the original speaker. So I don't know how easy it is to get to the speaker and its fixings via the front panel - is there glue as well as screws?
    What else should I look out for?
    Any well-recommended (or even not-recommended) replacement drivers?
    If you can point me at any old threads or videos I'd appreciate it.
    I'm in Portugal.
    Thanks
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    #2
    I think you are the first person to report failed speaker in a Squeezebox Radio, certainly the first I have seen, although I've been expecting such failures to start occurring as I mentioned in post #39 of this thread:

    https://forums.slimdevices.com/showt...ion-inevitable

    Which would be a good read for starters on replacement speaker options, most of which are in that thread or have links to other threads with details of replacements.

    As for disassembly, you'll find some instructions on a web search (Logitech Squeezebox Radio disassembly) which will take you part of the way, but to get to the speaker unit after the front grill and electronics board are removed, I'd guess you'll have a series of screws holding the panel that the speaker(s) are mounted on to the outer shell, I suspect there will also be a rubber seal that will make that panel seem stuck, so a bit of gentle force may be required to part them once you've made sure all retaining screws are removed.

    Then it will just be a case mounting your chosen new speaker/driver making any adaptions necessary for a good fit.

    Good luck and don't forget to report back your experience.

    Cheers

    Kev

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      #3
      Speaker successfully replaced!

      Well in the end I bought a Faital Pro 3FE25-4 speaker from a German online retailer since it was described as a "drop-in" replacement for the original speaker.
      Cost was €14.85 but more than that for transport by DHL unfortunately.
      Dismantling the SB Radio is fiddly but not hard - you do need some very small Torx screwdriver bits (two different sizes). Obviously disconnect the battery pack first (if you have one) - this will also allow you to push the facia out from the case from behind rather than prise it out from the front.. Definitely the hardest part (as suggested in Joe's blog) is getting the actual speaker removed, because the four fixing srews have been waxed in, and removing the wax is a real PITA. In the end I had to use long-nose pliers to get the screws started, and the heads were pretty wrecked by the time I got them out. Fortunately. I had some similar sized items in my "assorted small screws" box - with simple Philips heads so much easier to fix - and no wax this time. Oh - and removing the foam circle from the old speaker (presumably some form of damper) required a thin blade and some ripe Anglo-Saxon! Super-glued on to the back of the new one.
      Interestingly, the Faital speaker is heavier than the original one (548gm v 496gm), even though the magnet assembly looks smaller.
      The new speaker is still a bit "tight" and needs to be run in for a while, but it sounds much better than the farty old one.
      In the photos, the original speaker is on the top or left, the Faital below or on the right.
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      Last edited by GRC; 2022-10-05, 16:37.
      Seen it all, done it all, can't remember most of it ...
      Server = iMac -> Bootcamp -> W10 (dBpoweramp ripping / MediaMonkey management)
      Router = Huawei B535 LTE 4G + TP-Link Deco X20 mesh x 5
      Lounge = SBT -> Devialet D200 -> Dynaudio Contour 1.8 MkII
      Covered terrace = SBT -> AudioEngine A5+
      Kitchen + bedroom = SB Radio
      Garage = SB2 -> Rotel RA820BX2 -> MA252
      Storage = SB3 + SlimP3
      iOS control = iPeng / SqueezePad; Android = SqueezeCommander;

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        #4
        More photos available

        I've got more photos of the tear down and what's inside if anyone is interested.
        Just didn't want to clog the feed.
        Seen it all, done it all, can't remember most of it ...
        Server = iMac -> Bootcamp -> W10 (dBpoweramp ripping / MediaMonkey management)
        Router = Huawei B535 LTE 4G + TP-Link Deco X20 mesh x 5
        Lounge = SBT -> Devialet D200 -> Dynaudio Contour 1.8 MkII
        Covered terrace = SBT -> AudioEngine A5+
        Kitchen + bedroom = SB Radio
        Garage = SB2 -> Rotel RA820BX2 -> MA252
        Storage = SB3 + SlimP3
        iOS control = iPeng / SqueezePad; Android = SqueezeCommander;

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          #5
          Originally posted by GRC View Post
          I've got more photos of the tear down and what's inside if anyone is interested.
          Just didn't want to clog the feed.
          That new speaker looks a cm or so deeper than the original - no space issues in the enclosure?
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            #6
            Nope

            No - the new speaker is shallower than the original. In the second photo the original one is on top and the new one is below (see my original text). So no space issues at all.
            Seen it all, done it all, can't remember most of it ...
            Server = iMac -> Bootcamp -> W10 (dBpoweramp ripping / MediaMonkey management)
            Router = Huawei B535 LTE 4G + TP-Link Deco X20 mesh x 5
            Lounge = SBT -> Devialet D200 -> Dynaudio Contour 1.8 MkII
            Covered terrace = SBT -> AudioEngine A5+
            Kitchen + bedroom = SB Radio
            Garage = SB2 -> Rotel RA820BX2 -> MA252
            Storage = SB3 + SlimP3
            iOS control = iPeng / SqueezePad; Android = SqueezeCommander;

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              #7
              Originally posted by GRC View Post
              No - the new speaker is shallower than the original. In the second photo the original one is on top and the new one is below (see my original text). So no space issues at all.
              Ahhh - misread your text!
              8.2.1 - 1639114554
              Win11
              Control: Web GUI; MaterialSkin on Android phones / pads

              b) Freebox Pop Wifi6 / Mesh
              External SSD, WiFi Laptop
              2 x Touch Wireless (Firmware:8.0.1-r16907)
              1 x SB Radio, LAN into Vonets WiFi Bridge (8.0.1-r16907)

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