Tidal and replaygain

[slartibartfast]

Are you saying that it’s now working as expected?

I learned that the trackGain() function was an override which was applied no matter what the setting was. Whereas without the override LMS would use the gain value returned in the metadata - when enabled.

Not really. It works but the server log does not report the fact that replaygain is being applied even when it is enabled. Before the change the server log always reported that replaygain was used.

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[mherger]

Are you saying that it’s now working as expected?

I learned that the trackGain() function was an override which was applied no matter what the setting was. Whereas without the override LMS would use the gain value returned in the metadata - when enabled.

[slartibartfast]

I’d say so.

I made the change and now the volume is noticeably different if Replaygain is enabled but the server log no longer reports Replaygain at all whether on or off.

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[mherger]

Is that
/usr/share/perl5/Slim/Plugin/WiMP/Protocol handler.pm?

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I’d say so.

[slartibartfast]

Is that
/usr/share/perl5/Slim/Plugin/WiMP/Protocol handler.pm?

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[slartibartfast]

> You didn't see my comment. I did that (well debug) and replaygain is
> mentioned in the log even when it should be disabled.

I'm sorry, yes, didn't see your comment before I posted.

Anybody willing and able to edit a source file?

In Slim/Plugin/WiMP/ProtocolHandler.pm, around line 449 there's a
function "trackGain". Rename it to "trackGainXX" and restart LMS. Then
please test again, with and without replaygain enabled.

Where would I find that file? I can't find a "slim" folder in raspbian.

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[mherger]

Tidal and replaygain

> You didn't see my comment. I did that (well debug) and replaygain is
> mentioned in the log even when it should be disabled.

I'm sorry, yes, didn't see your comment before I posted.

Anybody willing and able to edit a source file?

In Slim/Plugin/WiMP/ProtocolHandler.pm, around line 449 there's a
function "trackGain". Rename it to "trackGainXX" and restart LMS. Then
please test again, with and without replaygain enabled.

[slartibartfast]

> The following observation: The Tidal files are definitely played with
> replaygain - however, this behaviour does not change when I switch off
> the normalisation for the respective player - the volume simply remains
> the same, i.e. equally quiet ... am I making a mistake in thinking?

Could you please enable INFO logging for plugin.tidal, then watch the
server.log for statements like "Using replaygain value of x.x for TIDAL
track"?

You didn't see my comment. I did that (well debug) and replaygain is mentioned in the log even when it should be disabled.

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[mherger]

Tidal and replaygain

> The following observation: The Tidal files are definitely played with
> replaygain - however, this behaviour does not change when I switch off
> the normalisation for the respective player - the volume simply remains
> the same, i.e. equally quiet ... am I making a mistake in thinking?

Could you please enable INFO logging for plugin.tidal, then watch the
server.log for statements like "Using replaygain value of x.x for TIDAL
track"?

[bluedogs]

I see the same. I hadn't tried turning replaygain off before but the server log with Tidal set to debug definitely states that replaygain is being applied when player replaygain is disabled.

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Thanks for the confirmation! Many greetings, Oliver

[slartibartfast]

The following observation: The Tidal files are definitely played with replaygain - however, this behaviour does not change when I switch off the normalisation for the respective player - the volume simply remains the same, i.e. equally quiet ... am I making a mistake in thinking?
I use version 8.3.0-1644324995.exe on Winows 10

I see the same. I hadn't tried turning replaygain off before but the server log with Tidal set to debug definitely states that replaygain is being applied when player replaygain is disabled.

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[bluedogs]

> So if I understand this correctly, album gain normalization is now used
> permanently, but I can't set it anywhere, can I?

Normalization can be enabled/disabled globally in LMS. That would still
be taken into account. But you can't disable/enable it for TIDAL only.

The following observation: The Tidal files are definitely played with replaygain - however, this behaviour does not change when I switch off the normalisation for the respective player - the volume simply remains the same, i.e. equally quiet ... am I making a mistake in thinking?
I use version 8.3.0-1644324995.exe on Winows 10

[slartibartfast]

Ah I see ... so it shouldn't matter which of the three normalization options I choose in Logitech Media Server then, right?

Exactly

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[bluedogs]

> So if I understand this correctly, album gain normalization is now used
> permanently, but I can't set it anywhere, can I?

Normalization can be enabled/disabled globally in LMS. That would still
be taken into account. But you can't disable/enable it for TIDAL only.

Thanks Michael!

[bluedogs]

If you have replaygain enabled in Audio settings then Tidal will have album gain normalisation. If replaygain is disabled then it will be disabled in Tidal as well. Track gain is not available with Tidal.

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Ah I see ... so it shouldn't matter which of the three normalization options I choose in Logitech Media Server then, right?