Suitable NAS to easily install LMS on?

[d6jg]

This is the way. A Pi is smaller than a pack of cigarettes ... or the walwart supplies of many routers.

On an economy install with modest libraries and client loads, I just tie it into the router with a 1' ethernet cable. It can manage any shared network volume from there.

If the media library is small enough, you can even throw the whole thing on a USB thumb drive plugged into the Pi.

Back in the old ReadyNAS days, LMS was somewhat functional, included in the product, and maintained. But in 2023, keeping up with NAS compatibility seems a bit of a PITA.

Most of us would agree 100% but the OP has said he simply does not want to use a Pi. Reason not given.

[gordonb3]

I commented this before. Since practically every NAS uses Perl for administrative functions there is no reason whatsoever why you couldn't make LMS run on any of them. Really the only barrier is that LMS persists in including commonly used modules which causes version conflicts with NAS management software. I myself run LMS on an ARMv5 NAS system (Excito B3) that originally came with a Debian OS but I since replaced with Gentoo because Debian makes it way too complicated to host third party hardware specific software. My current running installation is LMS 8.2.0 (NoArch) on Perl 5.36 with all support modules coming either from system repository or PEAR - i.e. I do not use the slimserver-vendor method that is the base for all the official arch specific releases of LMS.

[slurmsmckenzie]

I commented this before. Since practically every NAS uses Perl for administrative functions there is no reason whatsoever why you couldn't make LMS run on any of them. Really the only barrier is that LMS persists in including commonly used modules which causes version conflicts with NAS management software. I myself run LMS on an ARMv5 NAS system (Excito B3) that originally came with a Debian OS but I since replaced with Gentoo because Debian makes it way too complicated to host third party hardware specific software. My current running installation is LMS 8.2.0 (NoArch) on Perl 5.36 with all support modules coming either from system repository or PEAR - i.e. I do not use the slimserver-vendor method that is the base for all the official arch specific releases of LMS.

Just a word of warning relating to this - I think it has been mentioned elsewhere on the forum but I'd forgotten that Netgear Readynas products have issues with updating Perl on their Debian-based OS so there is a limit to the version of LMS that can be used. I realised this the hard way when I tried to update from 8.2.0 to 8.3.1 on my Readnas 202 over the weekend - LMS complained that a few packages were not installed (e.g. libcrypt) and that others were too old (e.g. Perl) so I started down an endless rabbit-hole of updating and installing packages.... but each one was also complaining of missing / out-dated packages, so there were always more and more packages to install... until eventually I got a message saying that if I updated one of the packages it would break 2-3 important packages that are part of the Readynas OS and key functionality. Then I had the unpleasant task of trying to un-pick all of my updates and get back to a working state with LMS 8.2.0 which was not easy and I was worried I had messed up my NAS altogether (did not really want to factory reset).

I'm sure it would be possible to get LMS 8.3.1 onto a Reaynas 202 somehow, but for those wanting to stick to using the Readynas OS6 software there is a limit of 8.2.x as far as I am aware - I'm not trying to update it again!

(for context I also run a Pi which is on 8.3.1 for most of my SBs but I was wanting to get 8.3.1 on the Readynas installation because I use that for a single Radio with a specific alarm every day which had been having issues and 8.3.x mentioned specific alarm fixes)

[sfraser]

A pc with TrueNAS SCALE software may be an option. LMS is supported as an app.

[Jaca]

Any NAS which supports Docker is only way to ensure long life support for LMS.

[jcbenten]

Now that would be an option but links to it via this thread go nowhere https://forums.slimdevices.com/forum...X86-support-!=

as the https://www.qnapclub.eu site seems to be no more. Any pointers?

Another suggestion for QNAP and digimaster 's QLMS. Over the last couple of years it has been more stable than running LMS on a pc. The QNAPClub store is always up and down...have to check again. Get a newer Celeron QNAP (TS-464 or 453E) and install QLMS and should be fine. when my 453Pro fails for good (crap Intel stepping) I will be looking at the 464.

[Eyerex]

Run my LMS server on a Raspberry Pi 2 powered by my Router which works great and has 3 players working of it without any problems

[Jaca]

Run my LMS server on a Raspberry Pi 2 powered by my Router which works great and has 3 players working of it without any problems

Most of us would agree 100% but the OP has said he simply does not want to use a Pi. Reason not given.

[CJS]

OP's last activity on this forum was on Jan 8. We can keep doing suggestions, but it is unlikely that he will read them.

[nicklouse]

OP's last activity on this forum was on Jan 8. We can keep doing suggestions, but it is unlikely that he will read them.

How wrong you are. I just have other things that I spend time on.

[agburnsky]

How wrong you are. I just have other things that I spend time on.

So, have you resolved your issue?

[nicklouse]

So, have you resolved your issue?

Have not as yet. Been looking at adding the BBC sounds app but as I am not able to add IO:: Socket update to the old Ready NAS I will not be able to add BBC Sounds app. And as I only have a single Squeeze product that is working now it might be more cost affective to just change player!

[sonyhome]

I have just installed LMS on TrueNAS core in a Jail, via Portmaster.

So as long as this gets releases of LMS, the method should work and compiles direct from the source.
It's been an uphill battle for a couple days to find the right infos since it can't be installed as a plugin, but I have a working solution for 2023 based on old 2018 infos that I just posted here:

https://www.truenas.com/community/threads/lms-logitech-media-server-installation.108807/

However I still have one issue to solve hence why I'm here!

So... Help!

When I try to enter my password to log onto mysqueezebox.com it fails and I don't get the password box replaced by "Sign out of mysqueezebox.com" button.
I'm hoping it's an obvious issue/solution to someone here and I can trade for the offering of another working NAS solution for some goodwill. I saw somewhere jumping to v 8.x.x was hitting some bug but IDK if that's my issue. Right now only the web player connects/works (http://192.168.0.xxx:9000/stream.mp3).

Log errors (I can ping mysqueezebox from the jail):

[23-03-23 21:29:24.3847] Slim::Networking::SqueezeNetwork::_error (431) Unable to login to SN: Timed out waiting for data
[23-03-23 21:29:24.3849] Slim::Networking::SqueezeNetwork::_init_error (156) Unable to login to mysqueezebox.com, sync is disabled: Timed out waiting for data (https://www.mysqueezebox.com)
[23-03-23 21:29:24.3851] Slim::Networking::SqueezeNetwork::_init_error (172) mysqueezebox.com sync init failed: Timed out waiting for data, will retry in 300 (https://www.mysqueezebox.com)
[23-03-23 21:30:30.4493] Slim::Utils::Timers::__ANON__ (272) Error: Timer Slim::Networking::SqueezeNetwork::__ANON__ failed:
...
[23-03-24 00:24:05.8672] Slim::Schema::Storage::throw_exception (121) Error: DBI Exception: DBD::SQLite::st execute failed: database is locked [for Statement "INSERT INTO contributors ( name, namesearch, namesort) VALUES ( ?, ?, ? )" with ParamValues: 1='Various Artists', 2='VARIOUS ARTISTS', 3='VARIOUS ARTISTS']
...
[23-03-24 00:24:05.8677] Slim::Schema::Storage::throw_exception (121) Error: Carp::Clan::__ANON__(): DBI Exception: DBD::SQLite::st execute failed: database is locked [for Statement "INSERT INTO contributors ( name, namesearch, namesort) VALUES ( ?, ?, ? )" with ParamValues: 1='Various Artists', 2='VARIOUS ARTISTS', 3='VARIOUS ARTISTS'] at /usr/local/share/logitechmediaserver/Slim/Schema/Storage.pm line 125
...
[23-03-24 00:24:05.8681] Slim::Control::Request::notify (2060) Error: Failed notify: Carp::Clan::__ANON__(): Carp::Clan::__ANON__(): DBI Exception: DBD::SQLite::st execute failed: database is locked [for Statement "INSERT INTO contributors ( name, namesearch, namesort) VALUES ( ?, ?, ? )" with ParamValues: 1='Various Artists', 2='VARIOUS ARTISTS', 3='VARIOUS ARTISTS'] at /usr/local/share/logitechmediaserver/Slim/Schema/Storage.pm line 125
[23-03-24 00:52:29.3476] Slim::Networking::SqueezeNetwork::_error (431) Unable to login to SN: Invalid mysqueezebox.com username or password.
[23-03-24 00:53:29.6549] Slim::Networking::SqueezeNetwork::_error (431) Unable to login to SN: Timed out waiting for data
...
[23-03-24 02:29:34.8753] Slim::Networking::SqueezeNetwork::_error (431) Unable to login to SN: Couldn't resolve IP address for: www.mysqueezebox.com
[23-03-24 02:29:34.8755] Slim::Networking::SqueezeNetwork::_init_error (156) Unable to login to mysqueezebox.com, sync is disabled: Couldn't resolve IP address for: www.mysqueezebox.com (https://www.mysqueezebox.com)
[23-03-24 02:29:34.8757] Slim::Networking::SqueezeNetwork::_init_error (172) mysqueezebox.com sync init failed: Couldn't resolve IP address for: www.mysqueezebox.com, will retry in 300 (https://www.mysqueezebox.com)

Note: I have my other server on a QNAP which limps along just fine, I can log in/out and my devices talk to it (that NAS is a slow celeron dog). TBH I don't understand why we need to have mysqueezebox.com bridge the server(s) and the devices in my local network. If that server breaks/shuts down, we're dead in the water. Can I even stream my music outside of my local network?

[mherger]

TBH I don't understand why we need to have mysqueezebox.com bridge the server(s) and the devices in my local network. If that server breaks/shuts down, we're dead in the water. Can I even stream my music outside of my local network?

You only need MySB if you use some of the streaming services. And to give me a piece of information (the existence of your LMS and players, no more details than that) I need to justify the expense of still supporting LMS. But that's not what is of most interest to you .

Can you share some more information about your installation? Could you please post the top part of Settings/Information? What IO::Socket::SSL version is reported there? What LMS version are you running anyway?

[sonyhome]

Logitech Media Server Version: 8.2.1 - TRUNK @ UNKNOWN
Hostname: lms
Server IP Address: 172.16.0.2
Server HTTP Port Number: 9000
Operating system: FreeBSD - EN - utf8
Platform Architecture: amd64-freebsd
Perl Version: 5.32.1 - amd64-freebsd-thread-multi
Audio::Scan: 1.02
IO::Socket::SSL: 2.081
Database Version: DBD::SQLite 1.58 (sqlite 3.22.0)
Total Players Recognized: 0

For the record this is a fresh install in a TrueNAS jail (basically a virtual machine) following the recipe I just posted. Hence the address (172) is actually not the address of the physical machine that hosts that (it has a 192 address).

Note: I can ping mysqueezebox.com from inside the LMS jail. IDK why LMS can't log to it!

If you need to justify keeping LMS alive, just look on eBay the amount of devices transferring hands all the time I would be happy to land an occasional hand to see it stays alive though my Perl is rusty and most of what's going on in LMS is foreign to me. I'd put my config as a signature and loads of squeezeboxes I own, but I haven't figured out profiles on this forum!