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    !!!!!!! (from Billie Eilish album)

    OP says he can play the track. Therefore the filename isn't the issue.
    The remaining issue is the genre. Which must be in the tags. What tool
    did you use to edit the genre?
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    Michael

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    !!!!!!! (from Billie Eilish album)

    !!!!!!! is the name of the first (13 second) track.

    I purchased the album from iTunes (something I do very rarely), downloaded it and added it to my LMS library (as well as my JRiver library). I edited several of the tags including genre. Both iTunes and JRiver recognize the genre for this track (and all others on the album) as "rock/pop." LMS insists this track has no genre, despite a number of rescans including a complete rescan.

    Is it the name/length of the track? I tried sticking an "01" before the exclamation points, but it didn't seem to help.

    Not a huge problem but annoying.

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      #3
      Well, probably not an answer to your specific question, but I generally remove characters such as ! which often have a system specific meaning from filenames. Does the scanner see the file?

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        #4
        Maybe it’s enough to rename the file itself and not its title to let it be recognized?

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          #5
          I can play the track using LMS. But if I drill down through genre - which is almost always what I do - and play the album that way, the first track (13 seconds of nonsense) would be omitted.

          I can play the entire album, if I remember to drill down by album or album artist.

          This is not a critical problem, just OCD.

          Edit - does anyone know of a program that would allow me to read the raw metadata?
          Last edited by john greenwood; 2020-02-14, 19:15.

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            #6
            Originally posted by john greenwood View Post
            I can play the track using LMS. But if I drill down through genre - which is almost always what I do - and play the album that way, the first track (13 seconds of nonsense) would be omitted.

            I can play the entire album, if I remember to drill down by album or album artist.

            This is not a critical problem, just OCD.

            Edit - does anyone know of a program that would allow me to read the metadata?
            Try changing the file name as suggested. Leave the correct name in the tag.

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              #7
              Originally posted by john greenwood View Post
              !!!!!!! is the name of the first (13 second) track.

              I purchased the album from iTunes (something I do very rarely), downloaded it and added it to my LMS library (as well as my JRiver library). I edited several of the tags including genre. Both iTunes and JRiver recognize the genre for this track (and all others on the album) as "rock/pop." LMS insists this track has no genre, despite a number of rescans including a complete rescan.

              Is it the name/length of the track? I tried sticking an "01" before the exclamation points, but it didn't seem to help.

              Not a huge problem but annoying.
              You didn't mention the operating system for your LMS installation but if it is some Linux version and the track file name is something like "!!!!!!.flac" then it may not be accepted by the OS.
              Here's some result I get on my Linux Mint 19.3 laptop when trying to create files with "!!!!!!" in the filename. Not a good idea it seems ...
              Click image for larger version

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              I would avoid more than one !-mark in the filename if the OS is Linux-based.
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                #8
                I'm using Windows 10/NTFS.

                And changing the file name didn't help. LMS sees the file (and will play it) but apparently not the genre tag.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by john greenwood View Post
                  I'm using Windows 10/NTFS.

                  And changing the file name didn't help. LMS sees the file (and will play it) but apparently not the genre tag.
                  What did you change the file name to?

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by slartibartfast View Post
                    What did you change the file name to?

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by john greenwood View Post
                      I'm using Windows 10/NTFS.

                      And changing the file name didn't help. LMS sees the file (and will play it) but apparently not the genre tag.
                      After you change the file name, etc., you may need to do a clear and rescan to really get LMS to see the changes. Or at least first remove the file, do a scan for new and changed (and see that it is not listed in LMS), then add the file back and do a scan for new and changed.
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by garym View Post
                        After you change the file name, etc., you may need to do a clear and rescan to really get LMS to see the changes. Or at least first remove the file, do a scan for new and changed (and see that it is not listed in LMS), then add the file back and do a scan for new and changed.
                        Did a full rescan. No joy.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by john greenwood View Post
                          Did a full rescan. No joy.
                          Try changing the title to Exclamation Marks. I know it’s not ideal but it may be that !!!!!! Is glitching the scanner.
                          Jim



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                            #14
                            Whether or not it's the length of the track/file that's causing the genre tag issue is interesting. I have an mp3 copy of There's a Riot Going On by Sly and the Family Stone. The title track is zero length, but is actually reported as 4 seconds on LMS. It it tagged with a genre, which seems to be picked up by LMS. The details of this file are:

                            File Format: MP3
                            Duration: 0:04
                            Bitrate: 33kbps VBR (the album is 256k VBR)
                            Sample Rate: 44.1 kHz
                            File Length: 257,153


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                              #15
                              I've just taken an album from my spare music folder (Aztec Camera - Best of), re-tagged the first track's title and filename to "!!!!!!!", Windows has no problem with the filename, LMS has no problem with the genre (Alternative).

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