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    Equaliser for LMS on Raspberry Pi

    Hi - is there a (hopefully parametric) equaliser that runs on LMS on a Pi4 (running raspbian) that works with SB3 players? There is Inguz for Windows but I can't find anything for the Pi?

    Failing that, is there a way to get an equaliser going on the LMS/Pi if the Pi is used as a player instead of a SB3? I have searched and found a 10 band equaliser but can't see how to get it to work, or does it only work with piCorePlayer? Ideally I need more than 10 bands if possible...
    SB3 -> Quad 909 -> Quad Electrostatic speakers, Quad 405 -> TBI subwoofer
    3 x SB3s + SB Radio
    LMS on Raspbian on a Pi4
    Rotel RSP1068 surround processor, Quad 707 -> B&W surround

    #2
    I did not read any of this, it's too early



    ronnie

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      #3
      Unfortunately, I think that'll only work with sound output direct from the Pi -- eg, via a sound card or bluetooth -- as opposed to a signal sent to an SB3. (Basically, you configure the Pi to send the sound output to Alsaeq, which then processes it, and passes it on to the actual output device.)

      You can use Alsaeq with Squeezelite -- see https://scribles.net/enabling-equali...-equal-plugin/ -- but I suspect that's because you can configure where Squeezelite takes its input from (ie, the equalizer, instead of straight from a soundcard), which you can't do with an SB3 or similar.
      Duet x 3, via various hi-fi. LMS running on Raspberry Pi OS (Debian 10) + OMV on a Pi4 (4GB RAM) in an Argon Neo case.

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        rbl, this looks interesting and may be what you are after -



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          #5
          Originally posted by Wirrunna View Post
          rbl, this looks interesting and may be what you are after -



          Looking at steps 6 and 7 of the set-up guide in that post, it only works because PCP uses Squeezelite as a player, so you can configure what output it takes.

          6. Disable built-in audio (if you use a sound card, which you probably do). I'd like to simplify things by just having the real audio device available.

          7. configure squeezelite to use the dsp output (Squeezelite Settings -> Output Setting).
          Duet x 3, via various hi-fi. LMS running on Raspberry Pi OS (Debian 10) + OMV on a Pi4 (4GB RAM) in an Argon Neo case.

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            #6

            Your link also has a link for setting up the 10 band EQ with Squeezelite itself. I haven't had the chance to try and make it work yet... am waiting for a rainy day!
            Introduction In the comments reader “Christian” asked me about how to use Alsaequal with squeezelite. I had never heard about “Alsaequal” but once I looked into it, I found out it was an equalizer plugin for Alsa. It looked quite promising. After a bit of tinkering with it, Christian and I got it working. And … Continue reading Raspbian: the great Equalizer →



            Originally posted by Wirrunna View Post
            rbl, this looks interesting and may be what you are after -



            I use Inguz on my Vortexbox but would like an alternative.
            Originally posted by SpiderJon View Post
            Looking at steps 6 and 7 of the set-up guide in that post, it only works because PCP uses Squeezelite as a player, so you can configure what output it takes.

            6. Disable built-in audio (if you use a sound card, which you probably do). I'd like to simplify things by just having the real audio device available.

            7. configure squeezelite to use the dsp output (Squeezelite Settings -> Output Setting).
            Looks interesting for a proper parametric EQ although Ill have to see if my very limited unix skills are up to it as only got my Pi a few weeks ago (and love it). But as SpiderJon says, and like Man in a Van's, this seems to work outside LMS so assumes the Pi is used as the actual player rather than just a server.

            So ideally I'm still looking for something that works more at the server level (like Inguz for LMS on Windows) so I can supply EQ to my various SB3 and don't have to use the audio out of the Pi ...
            SB3 -> Quad 909 -> Quad Electrostatic speakers, Quad 405 -> TBI subwoofer
            3 x SB3s + SB Radio
            LMS on Raspbian on a Pi4
            Rotel RSP1068 surround processor, Quad 707 -> B&W surround

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              #7
              @rbl

              I have only skimmed through this blog thingy but it looks pretty good.

              Scroll right to the bottom

              ronnie


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                #8
                Oh, the google search that found that, found this

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by rbl View Post
                  So ideally I'm still looking for something that works more at the server level (like Inguz for LMS on Windows) so I can supply EQ to my various SB3 and don't have to use the audio out of the Pi ...
                  This is basically the same scenario as in this thread (i.e. modifying the audio before sending it to the player, in this case using sox with the equalizer filter), so what I wrote there applies here as well.
                  AFAIK, this is the only feasible approach (IIRC, plugins like Inguz or BruteFIR simply write their own custom-convert.conf, hiding the complexity behind a GUI)
                  Various SW: Web Interface | Text Interface | Playlist Editor / Generator | Music Classification | Similar Music | Announce | EventTrigger | Ambient Noise Mixer | DB Optimizer | Image Enhancer | Chiptunes | LMSlib2go | ...
                  Various HowTos: build a self-contained LMS | Bluetooth/ALSA | Control LMS with any device | ...

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by rbl View Post
                    So ideally I'm still looking for something that works more at the server level (like Inguz for LMS on Windows) so I can supply EQ to my various SB3 and don't have to use the audio out of the Pi ...
                    Just to add to Roland's suggestion, using SoX's equalizer effect and a custom-convert file is fairly straightforward. See, for instance, this recent thread on the topic or search the forum for "sox" and "custom-convert".

                    It would also allow you to specify different EQ settings for each player, depending on room acoustics, user preferences, etc. It takes a bit of processing power, but as long as you keep to a reasonable number of equalizer commands, you should be fine.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Man in a van View Post
                      @rbl

                      I have only skimmed through this blog thingy but it looks pretty good.

                      Scroll right to the bottom

                      ronnie


                      https://scratchart.nl/2-uncategorise...a-raspberry-pi
                      Hi Ronnie...can I use the equaliser on my raspberry pi ?

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by NE5 View Post
                        Hi Ronnie...can I use the equaliser on my raspberry pi ?
                        Hi Steve, I don't have a Scooby , sorry. But I doubt it.

                        pCP has the

                        ALSA 10 band Equalizer

                        On the Tweaks page is that is of any use.

                        I thought you had an equaliser (or am I , not an uncommon condition )

                        ronnie

                        Edit: There is Inguz but I think that is more about correcting room deficiencies
                        Last edited by Man in a van; 2022-11-29, 19:15.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Man in a van View Post
                          Hi Steve, I don't have a Scooby , sorry. But I doubt it.

                          pCP has the

                          ALSA 10 band Equalizer

                          On the Tweaks page is that is of any use.

                          I thought you had an equaliser (or am I , not an uncommon condition )

                          ronnie

                          Edit: There is Inguz but I think that is more about correcting room deficiencies
                          Yeah I do but I could disconnect it and use it via the tablet.

                          Never mind it was just a thought.

                          Is the PCP equaliser any good ? I do have foober as well but dont use it as I dont play the music via the PC

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                            #14
                            The InguzEQ in the Software section has a 31 band eq

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