Announcement - ickStream open beta release on Squeezebox !

[remd]

We are about to announce the release of ickStream to all Squeezebox users and we are giving anyone who is reading this post on the slimdevices forum the opportunity to try out ickStream ahead of the announcement.

With ickStream you will be able to access a number of additional online music services and radios on your Squeezebox.
We are particularly excited to announce the availability of TIDAL - http://tidalhifi.com - on the Squeezebox exclusively through ickStream. Go grab a trial account here: http://getlossless.com/ , if you don't already have one, and you'll be able to enjoy High Fidelity Music streaming on your Squeezebox!

While ickStream strives to provide access to different music services to enrich users music experience, one aspect we also want to focus on is access to high quality music streaming, especially on home streaming devices like the Squeezebox.
With this initial release we are providing access to nine services, three of them provide access to high-resolution streams: Qobuz, WiMP Hifi, and TIDAL, which has recently launched in the US and UK.


We have decided to release ickStream on the Squeezebox as a Logitech Media Server(LMS) plugin first to support all Squeezeboxes.

Please visit the following page on our wiki for instructions on how to install the ickStream plugin and to see which services are supported in this release:
http://wiki.ickstream.com/index.php/...eta_Squeezebox

We are working on supporting many more services, some of them are already being tested, they will be added automatically to the supported services in upcoming releases, so stay tuned !

For support or to share feedback please visit our forum at: https://forum.ickstream.com

[local.bin]

Cool thanks, will take a look.

Regards

Edit:

1) How long does it usually take creating an account on the ickstream cloud? (your newsletters get through, but nothing so far, not in spam either) - Edit: Added ickstream to hotmail accepted address and reset password. All sorted now. thanks.

2) Your data policy is a little extensive, is that data open to all at ickstream, or restricted in some way? Do you see username/password for my services for example? Apologies for the blunt question.

3) Trying Tidal on your service and its excellent. Thanks very much. Will try qobuz later.

Thanks.

[Furry]

Is this supposed to work with a qobuz account yet?

I'm finding it confusing regarding whether I'm logged in as ickstream user or qobuz user; seem to be stuck in circular log-in loop.

Also, I cannot find a way to have devices registered - I'm asked repeatedly to agree with terms of use.

[pippin]

1) How long does it usually take creating an account on the ickstream cloud? (your newsletters get through, but nothing so far, not in spam either) - Edit: Added ickstream to hotmail accepted address and reset password. All sorted now. thanks.

OK. It should usually only take a few seconds or minutes but e-mails sometimes have relay delays.

2) Your data policy is a little extensive, is that data open to all at ickstream, or restricted in some way? Do you see username/password for my services for example? Apologies for the blunt question.

Well, "all at ickstream" currently isn't too many Those who have admin access to the server can see the mail address you used to create the ickStream account, not the account details for connected services.

Whether we have your passwords or not in the database depends on the service (other than with Logitech, BTW, which always connects using your account information IIRC, at least I don't remember ever seeing any oAuth on MySB). Wherever an oAuth authentication is available, we use it. oAuth will not give us the full account information but just the user ID and an authentication handle which then can only be used by ickStream and which you can usually revoke on the service at any time even without ickStream involvement. This is for example what SoundCloud does.
This is also how the login providers we use work. If you login with, say, facebook, we don't get your facebook password but just an e-mail address and the confirmation from facebook that you are correctly logged in through their account.

Others like TIDAL or Qobuz don't use this yet and there we do have to store both username and password to get access.

3) Trying Tidal on your service and its excellent. Thanks very much. Will try qobuz later.

Good to hear that, have fun!

Regarding your earlier question on devices, let me answer although you now removed the question. We don't get any details data from your players, what we store is the player identity. This means: the player name, the MAC and the UUID the player has created. That's how the players are identified in our system.
The idea behind ickStream is to be licensed to vendors and we have to make sure that the beta is not being used commercially, we would not be allowed to do that for all the services provided under the terms of the open beta, vendors will have to use a commercial license for that which has other terms (but then they could also get more services...)

[pippin]

One comment regarding something that came up on our forum...
There seems to be an issue - it's a bit embarrassing given the fact that we start with some lossless services - that LMS (and other UIs) sometimes show MP3 as the stream format with our streams even when the actual format is FLAC.
This affects both TIDAL and QOBUZ. From what I see the correct format will usually be shown after a while, especially if you play the same track (in the current playlist) a second time.

So don't be too concerned if LMS or the player shows the stream format as "MP3" where you expect FLAC, it's usually indeed FLAC. We have a way to see what's the actual stream in the logs, there's an explanation about how to get this in our forum. We are working on a fix.
It's this old issue that it's actually the server telling the controller or UI what is streaming, the information shown is not what actually reaches the player but what the server thinks it is...

[callesoroe]

We are about to announce the release of ickStream to all Squeezebox users and we are giving anyone who is reading this post on the slimdevices forum the opportunity to try out ickStream ahead of the announcement.

With ickStream you will be able to access a number of additional online music services and radios on your Squeezebox.
We are particularly excited to announce the availability of TIDAL - http://tidalhifi.com - on the Squeezebox exclusively through ickStream. Go grab a trial account here: http://getlossless.com/ , if you don't already have one, and you'll be able to enjoy High Fidelity Music streaming on your Squeezebox!

While ickStream strives to provide access to different music services to enrich users music experience, one aspect we also want to focus on is access to high quality music streaming, especially on home streaming devices like the Squeezebox.
With this initial release we are providing access to nine services, three of them provide access to high-resolution streams: Qobuz, WiMP Hifi, and TIDAL, which has recently launched in the US and UK.


We have decided to release ickStream on the Squeezebox as a Logitech Media Server(LMS) plugin first to support all Squeezeboxes.

Please visit the following page on our wiki for instructions on how to install the ickStream plugin and to see which services are supported in this release:
http://wiki.ickstream.com/index.php/...eta_Squeezebox

We are working on supporting many more services, some of them are already being tested, they will be added automatically to the supported services in upcoming releases, so stay tuned !

For support or to share feedback please visit our forum at: https://forum.ickstream.com

I have created an account and will add online services. But I can not se Wimp anywhere????. I have a Wimp-hifi account(Denmark).

[pippin]

That'S just the login providers. Could it be that you are not in Denmark? I think we only show WiMP there if you are from Denmark or Norway (or maybe not at all? Will have to check tomorrow).

This doesn't mean it's not supported. Just log in with e-mail/password (ickStream cloud login) and then you can select your country and add WiMP, too.

[callesoroe]

I have created an account and will add online services. But I can not se Wimp anywhere????. I have a Wimp-hifi account(Denmark).

Have solved it..... clicked on google to come in and add wimp

[amcluesent]

I was looking forward to trying this, but the plugin seems to have got stuck in an endless loop of asking to confirm T&Cs with re-registering players. Trying disable/enable of plugin and restarting LMS

Logitech Media Server Version: 7.9.0 - 1408216432 @ Sun Aug 17 04:04:19 CUT 2014
Hostname: Rosaline
Server IP Address: 192.168.2.119
Server HTTP Port Number: 9000
Operating system: Windows 7 - EN - cp1252
Platform Architecture: 8664
Perl Version: 5.14.1 - MSWin32-x86-multi-thread
Audio::Scan: 0.95
Database Version: DBD::SQLite 1.34_01 (sqlite 3.7.7.1)
Total Players Recognized: 4

[pippin]

What type of players do you have?
Did it not ask you to create an account or log in?

One more thing: you seem to be using a very old version of LMS 7.9 beta, could you update this to a more recent build?

[amcluesent]

OK, upgraded LMS and deleted ickstream.prefs to start over, but same result. Using ickStream cloud login

Players are two Booms, Transporter, Touch

I could post ickstream.prefs but not sure what that would disclose...

Logitech Media Server Version: 7.9.0 - 1415806553 @ Thu Nov 13 04:05:05 CUT 2014
Hostname: Rosaline
Server IP Address: 192.168.2.119
Server HTTP Port Number: 9000
Operating system: Windows 7 - EN - cp1252
Platform Architecture: 8664
Perl Version: 5.14.1 - MSWin32-x86-multi-thread
Audio::Scan: 0.95
Database Version: DBD::SQLite 1.34_01 (sqlite 3.7.7.1)
Total Players Recognized: 4

[atrocity]

There seems to be an issue - it's a bit embarrassing given the fact that we start with some lossless services - that LMS (and other UIs) sometimes show MP3 as the stream format with our streams even when the actual format is FLAC.

Thank you for mentioning that, it's actually what I came here to check. I don't claim my ears can tell the difference, but I was curious. I did suspect I was really getting FLAC because I used my go-to album ("The Dark Side of the Moon") to test for gapless playback and was very happy to hear perfection!

Thank you for all your work!

[Grahame]

Thanks guys,
Lossless, gapless, synced, multi room goodness, streamed from the cloud, thanks to Tidal -> ickStream -> LMS

Controlled by iPeng

Yay!

[pippin]

OK, upgraded LMS and deleted ickstream.prefs to start over, but same result. Using ickStream cloud login

Could you tell me exactly what you are seeing in the ickStream settings page?
Do you not even have a login link? Are the players showing as registered or something?

I could post ickstream.prefs but not sure what that would disclose...

There is an "ickstream" folder along with the ickstream.prefs (in the plugin preferences folder) which contains licenses. Could you try to delete that folder, too?

[johnas]

Announcement - ickStream open beta release on Squeezebox !

Nice job guys working great on my server. Nice to see full Featured deezer access with Flow - awesome!