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    I'm new to the Squeezebox touch and trying to load a usb

    #2
    Usb stick . It scans the media and starts to load the file then says media server fault. Not a clue how to just play music off a memory stick. Please help

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      #3
      Presumably you are trying to use the built-in "TinyLMS" or "TinySc" that can be enabled on the stock firmware for the Touch.
      As a general comment ... the usual recommendation is to not use the built-in server but instead run the full LMS somewhere in your network (if you want to access local files or play HTTPS radio streams or access many of the subscription music services).
      However, your use case is what it was designed for so it really should work.
      Do any of the restrictions described in the old Wiki apply?
      Paul Webster
      Author of "Now Playing" plugins covering Radio France (FIP etc), PlanetRadio (Bauer - Kiss, Absolute, Scala, JazzFM etc), KCRW, ABC Australia and CBC/Radio-Canada
      and, via the extra "Radio Now Playing" plugin lots more - see https://forums.slimdevices.com/showt...Playing-plugin

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        #4
        Hi Paul Everything works from the pc music folders but I want to be able to play music without the need for the internet network connection to a pc. Is this not possible
        Glyn

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          #5
          Yes - it is possible - but not if you hit one of the restrictions listed on that page.
          Paul Webster
          Author of "Now Playing" plugins covering Radio France (FIP etc), PlanetRadio (Bauer - Kiss, Absolute, Scala, JazzFM etc), KCRW, ABC Australia and CBC/Radio-Canada
          and, via the extra "Radio Now Playing" plugin lots more - see https://forums.slimdevices.com/showt...Playing-plugin

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            #6
            Originally posted by Glyn Webster View Post
            Hi Paul Everything works from the pc music folders but I want to be able to play music without the need for the internet network connection to a pc. Is this not possible
            Glyn
            On your Touch go to Settings > Advanced > Software Update. What firmware is installed?

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              #7
              One thing I'll add, isn't it an either/or situation?

              Either you use LMS (say on your PC) -or- you use Tiny LMS (on your touch)? You can't have both simultaneously (is this right? never tried)

              This has been brought up before, and since using limited unstable Tiny LMS is widely discouraged (for many, many reasons), why wouldn't you just plug the thumb drive into your PC and add that path to your folders to scan? Even if you wanted the thumb drive contents to be dynamic, in windows, fix a drive map letter to it. Then you can unplug, add music, plug in, rescan, viola..no different than your touch, A new plugin will cause a rescan (I think, from memory).

              One time when it was brought up before, the member wanted to be able to have his friends come over and stick in their music at a party. There is an old thread on that here somewhere.

              Jim

              <edit - I reread, I had overlooked this part from the OP
              I want to be able to play music without the need for the internet network connection to a pc
              I misunderstood, I thought he had wanted to play both from a pc library and a USB drive.>
              Last edited by Redrum; 2023-03-01, 19:53.

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                #8
                Originally posted by Paul Webster View Post
                Yes - it is possible - but not if you hit one of the restrictions listed on that page.
                That page provides information about supported audio formats, but I don't see any information about supported file systems. Although not mentioned I would guess that FAT32 is supported, and that NTFS is probably not supported.

                Glyn Webster , which is the file system format of your USB stick?

                EDIT: I stand corrected. File systems supported by the Squeezebox Touch are FAT16, FAT32, NTFS and ext2/3.
                See Squeezebox Touch - USB Compatibility - SqueezeboxWiki (slimdevices.com)
                Last edited by CJS; 2023-03-01, 18:59.
                | LMS 8.3.2 on Linux Mint | Squeezebox Boom | RPi0W + pCP 8.2.0 + HiFiBerry DAC Zero | ESP Muse Luxe |

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by CJS View Post
                  That page provides information about supported audio formats, but I don't see any information about supported file systems. Although not mentioned I would guess that FAT32 is supported, and that NTFS is probably not supported.

                  Glyn Webster , which is the file system format of your USB stick?

                  EDIT: I stand corrected. File systems supported by the Squeezebox Touch are FAT16, FAT32, NTFS and ext2/3.
                  See Squeezebox Touch - USB Compatibility - SqueezeboxWiki (slimdevices.com)
                  I've just formatted a 32GB USB thumb drive NTFS, added a handful of albums, inserted in Touch, scanned and plays no problem.

                  EDIT: Sorry didn't see your EDIT.
                  Server - LMS 8.4.0 RPi4B 4GB/NanoSound ONE case/pCP 8.1.0 - 75K library, playlists & LMS cache on Sata SSD (ntfs)

                  Lounge - DAC32 - AudioEngine B2
                  Office - RPi 3B+/HiFiBerry DAC HAT/RPi screen - Edifier D12
                  Bedroom - Echo Show 8

                  Spares - 1xSB Touch, 1xSB3, 4xRPi, AVI DM5 speakers

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                    #10
                    As a simple test copy a few audio files from the PC music folder to your USB thumb drive, and check if they play. If that does not work reformat the thumb drive and try again. If that does not work maybe the thumb drive is for some reason not compatible with the Touch? How large is your thumb drive? There is probably a limitation w.r.t. maximum storage capacity. You may try with another thumbdrive with lower capacity.
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by CJS View Post
                      ....maybe the thumb drive is for some reason not compatible with the Touch? How large is your thumb drive? There is probably a limitation w.r.t. maximum storage capacity. You may try with another thumbdrive with lower capacity.
                      On the USB compatibility page that you linked earlier (https://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.p...atibility.html) I cannot find any report of a usb stick larger than 32 GB working with the Touch. That could be because larger cards usually use exFAT. The last edit to that page appears to have been in 2011, so it might be slightly out of date.
                      Usually running latest beta LMS nightly on Raspberry Pi OS with virtual players (Squeezelite and Airplay bridge). Occasionally using SB Radio, Boom or Classic.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by RobbH View Post

                        On the USB compatibility page that you linked earlier (https://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.p...atibility.html) I cannot find any report of a usb stick larger than 32 GB working with the Touch. That could be because larger cards usually use exFAT. The last edit to that page appears to have been in 2011, so it might be slightly out of date.
                        The wiki has been in read-only mode for several years... it's outdated for sure.
                        Michael

                        "It doesn't work - what shall I do?" - "Please check your server.log and/or scanner.log file!"
                        (LMS: Settings/Information)

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                          #13
                          I'll add an "unlikely" possibility - the Touch PS. The USB power to the stick is provided by the touch. The current consumed can be as high as 100ma depending on the stick. Not much, but that power comes from the supply, which, if it's weak....

                          I would be more suspicious if it was a non SSD USB powered drive, but thought I would mention it.

                          Jim

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by mherger View Post

                            The wiki has been in read-only mode for several years... it's outdated for sure.
                            Indeed, that entry was already well out of date when the wiki was switched to read-only! That was 2020, wasn't it? I thought wiki pages displayed a banner stating that it is read-only, but I'm not seeing that now.

                            Usually running latest beta LMS nightly on Raspberry Pi OS with virtual players (Squeezelite and Airplay bridge). Occasionally using SB Radio, Boom or Classic.

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                              #15
                              Assuming that the OP has a Touch with Logitech firmware, you can also argue that the USB compatibility page is not really outdated. The Touch was the last Squeezebox hardware development before Logitech pulled the plug. That page was updated almost a year after the introduction of the Touch. USB hardware that was compatible with the Touch in 2011 is also compatible now.

                              I don't know if the OP will come back, but my advise would be to use a USB stick not larger than 32GB. OP has not informed us yet about the capacity of the USB stick that he has uses.
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