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    > Sometimes it works for me and sometimes it produces very strange
    > results. Here is a good example


    Classical music is hard to get right. And the sources the plugin uses
    certainly are not optimized for classical music.

  • #2
    Lms

    What is best to use for LMS, windows, unraid, proxmox or truenas?

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    • #3
      Probably not Windows
      Jim



      VB2.4 storage QNAP TS419p (NFS)
      Living Room Joggler & Pi4/Khadas -> Onkyo TXNR686 -> Celestion F20s
      Office Joggler & Pi3 -> Denon RCD N8 -> Celestion F10s
      Dining Room SB Radio
      Bedroom (Bedside) Pi Zero+DAC ->ToppingTP21 ->AKG Headphones
      Bedroom (TV) & Bathroom SB Touch ->Denon AVR ->Mordaunt Short M10s + Kef ceiling speakers
      Guest Room Joggler > Topping Amp -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes

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      • #4
        Lms

        > What is best to use for LMS, windows, unraid, proxmox or truenas?

        TrueNAS is BSD based. Not easiest either.

        I'd say... piCorePlayer on a Pi :-)
        Michael

        "It doesn't work - what shall I do?" - "Please check your server.log and/or scanner.log file!"
        (LMS: Settings/Information)

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        • #5
          Originally posted by mherger
          > What is best to use for LMS, windows, unraid, proxmox or truenas?

          TrueNAS is BSD based. Not easiest either.

          I'd say... piCorePlayer on a Pi :-)
          piCorePlayer is definitely the easiest by some way these days
          Jim



          VB2.4 storage QNAP TS419p (NFS)
          Living Room Joggler & Pi4/Khadas -> Onkyo TXNR686 -> Celestion F20s
          Office Joggler & Pi3 -> Denon RCD N8 -> Celestion F10s
          Dining Room SB Radio
          Bedroom (Bedside) Pi Zero+DAC ->ToppingTP21 ->AKG Headphones
          Bedroom (TV) & Bathroom SB Touch ->Denon AVR ->Mordaunt Short M10s + Kef ceiling speakers
          Guest Room Joggler > Topping Amp -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes

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          • #6
            Originally posted by d6jg
            piCorePlayer is definitely the easiest by some way these days
            That must be true. With a little help from folk on this forum I got piCorePlayer running in half an hour and then got on with the LMS adjustment, which was easy because I have used it for years.

            I abandoned running it on an ageing PC because of Windows hiccups.
            Brian

            In UK: rPi4 running LMS, Chromecast Audio Dongle and Chromecast Video Dongle attached to TV - Beresford DAC - Quad 77 Integrated Amp - AVI Neutron 4 Speakers - Sennheiser HD25 Headphones. Boom in Bedroom.

            In Nicosia: LMS running on a small form factor Windows PC, Beresford DAC into Quad 405-2 and MB Quart 980s

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            • #7
              Originally posted by d6jg
              piCorePlayer is definitely the easiest by some way these days
              I cannot confirm this because I don't have one, but would polyvection CORE32 be the easiest way to run LMS?

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              • #8
                Originally posted by P Nelson
                I cannot confirm this because I don't have one, but would polyvection CORE32 be the easiest way to run LMS?
                Possibly the easiest, but if someone is prepared to consider configuring a NAS then ease and cost might be in the balance. PiCorePlayer on a Raspberry Pi might hit the sweetspot and therefore qualify as the "best" asked for; being not too expensive, easy to manage and very reliable.
                Brian

                In UK: rPi4 running LMS, Chromecast Audio Dongle and Chromecast Video Dongle attached to TV - Beresford DAC - Quad 77 Integrated Amp - AVI Neutron 4 Speakers - Sennheiser HD25 Headphones. Boom in Bedroom.

                In Nicosia: LMS running on a small form factor Windows PC, Beresford DAC into Quad 405-2 and MB Quart 980s

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by P Nelson
                  I cannot confirm this because I don't have one, but would polyvection CORE32 be the easiest way to run LMS?
                  Possibly. The downside is you become reliant on them for updates.

                  Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk
                  Living Room: Touch or Squeezelite (Pi3B) > Topping E30 > Audiolab 8000A > Monitor Audio S5 + BK200-XLS DF
                  Bedroom: Radio
                  Bathroom: Radio

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by P Nelson
                    I cannot confirm this because I don't have one, but would polyvection CORE32 be the easiest way to run LMS?
                    While the Polyvection players look decent value, I can't see how the price of the CORE32 server can be justified. Setting up piCorePlayer as a LMS server on a RPi really is child's play, and can be done for less than half the cost of a CORE32.
                    Until recently: Transporter -> ATC SCM100A, now sold :-(
                    House move forced change to: piCorePlayer(RPi2/HiFiBerry DIGI2 Pro) -> Meridian 218 -> Meridian M6

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                    • #11
                      "Best" is very subjective of course - but I've run LMS and Squeezebox arrays on Windows (currently Win11) with very, very few problems, for many, many years.

                      Maybe I'm that "lucky customer" but I've had very, very few general Windows hiccups at all, in any regard, over 20+ years.

                      BTW, we are a Win / Mac / Linux household, so I have cross-platform experience! And I stand by Windows as, overall, as good as any. Horses for courses, of course.
                      Gary Brown
                      LMS 8.3.2 - 1679892799
                      Win11
                      Control: Default Web GUI Firefox; MaterialSkin on Android phones / pads

                      in Paris, France:-
                      Freebox Pop Wifi6[disabled] / Mesh
                      External SSDs, WiFi Laptop
                      2 x Touch Wireless (8.0.1-r16916)
                      2 x SB Radios Wireless (8.0.1-r16924)

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by d6jg
                        piCorePlayer is definitely the easiest by some way these days
                        Agreed! Although I am running LMS for years now on a customized barebone PC with Linux, the most straightforward way of running it these days is indeed piCorePlayer however.
                        A self installed, customized system is IMO a poweruser solution and more suited for specific use cases (like mine).

                        Running it on a RPI also has advantages because of the power consumption compared to running it on a PC or NAS btw.
                        Living Room: RPI2+HifiBerry DAC+ Pro & piCorePlayer
                        Attic: RPI2+HifiBerry DAC+ RCA & piCorePlayer
                        Other rooms: 6x SB Radio
                        LMS: Version 8.3.0 on Xubuntu 22.04LTS

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by cliveb
                          While the Polyvection players look decent value, I can't see how the price of the CORE32 server can be justified. Setting up piCorePlayer as a LMS server on a RPi really is child's play, and can be done for less than half the cost of a CORE32.
                          Out of curiousity,I got a CORE32 at launch price which was better value. It sits there working, no maintenance, updates happen by themselves. As a tinkerer, I am little annoyed it doesn;t have the latest updates and worry what happens if Polyvection disappears - that said I have now unused old Odroid and Cubie boards which suffered from similar issues.

                          It is a conservative solution for user who want absolutely nothing to do. Why do people pay for windowcleaners ?
                          For someone who wants to set up an LMS system for an elderly parent/relative - it probably provides "peace of mind" at a small once off price. It is probably a "long tail" solution for a small number of users .

                          Polyvection may have got their business case a bit wrong before launch (and/or chip shortage) which resulted in the now higher price than they first announced. They have included their own RTOS (for their own h/w design) so that means some ongoing extra port/test costs and also may explains few updates.

                          It is good there is now a selection of very usable solutions available for users - each of which has pros/cons : Polyvection, Max2play, Picoreplayer, Raspbian, Windows etc. The choice is the best for years - especially when I remember the early attempts of a cheap LMS on the NLSU2 (nicknamed Slug for a a good reason)

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by agbagb
                            I've run LMS and Squeezebox arrays on Windows (currently Win11) with very, very few problems, for many, many years.

                            Maybe I'm that "lucky customer" but I've had very, very few general Windows hiccups at all, in any regard, over 20+ years.
                            That is my experience too. Now, though, my PC is 15 years old and has run out of steam, and even with an SSD installed to try to speed it up it is no longer fit for purpose. Windows on an inadequate machine was causing me problems, not LMS on Windows; so last week I jumped ship to a Raspberry Pi 4 to run LMS. It uses a lot less power than a PC and costs a lot less to buy! I will keep the old PC for now and wind it up only when I must use Windows - that will not be often, says he typing on one of the latest Chromebooks.
                            Brian

                            In UK: rPi4 running LMS, Chromecast Audio Dongle and Chromecast Video Dongle attached to TV - Beresford DAC - Quad 77 Integrated Amp - AVI Neutron 4 Speakers - Sennheiser HD25 Headphones. Boom in Bedroom.

                            In Nicosia: LMS running on a small form factor Windows PC, Beresford DAC into Quad 405-2 and MB Quart 980s

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Labarum
                              That is my experience too. Now, though, my PC is 15 years old and has run out of steam, and even with an SSD installed to try to speed it up it is no longer fit for purpose. Windows on an inadequate machine was causing me problems, not LMS on Windows; so last week I jumped ship to a Raspberry Pi 4 to run LMS. It uses a lot less power than a PC and costs a lot less to buy! I will keep the old PC for now and wind it up only when I must use Windows - that will not be often, says he typing on one of the latest Chromebooks.

                              For reasons not to do with LMS, I update my assorted Windows machine every, say, 3 years. So I've never really been subject to elderly machines huffing and puffing........ I did fire up a 12 year old (spare) PC desktop a few months ago, just to keep it more-or-less updated - and it was like wading through treacle!
                              Gary Brown
                              LMS 8.3.2 - 1679892799
                              Win11
                              Control: Default Web GUI Firefox; MaterialSkin on Android phones / pads

                              in Paris, France:-
                              Freebox Pop Wifi6[disabled] / Mesh
                              External SSDs, WiFi Laptop
                              2 x Touch Wireless (8.0.1-r16916)
                              2 x SB Radios Wireless (8.0.1-r16924)

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