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    Instructions for putting together low power consumption LMS server ?

    https://www.picoreplayer.org is the way to go. I use it on a Pi3
    and it has plenty of power to manage my 20k tracks in addition to a
    bunch of plugins.

    Last edited by mherger; 2022-12-18, 11:19.
    Touch x 2, Booms x 2, Squeeze Cntrl on Samsung S9+ (Duet Receiver + Controllers x 2 - semi-retired)

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    Instructions for putting together low power consumption LMS server ?

    Hello

    With the impending loss of BBC Shoutcast streams and no workaround via MySB.com, I need to consider an replacement always-on way of streaming via my SB hardware.

    Previously I have used a low end laptop / netbook, but would am looking at alternatives eg raspberry pi or similar.

    Is anyone selling ready made hardware ready to use or do these servers have to built from scratch ?

    If the latter is it complicated, and there specific web resources for guidance ?

    Do raspberry pi servers suffer from being relatively underpowered compared to laptop, tablet etc ?

    Thanks
    Touch x 2, Booms x 2, Squeeze Cntrl on Samsung S9+ (Duet Receiver + Controllers x 2 - semi-retired)

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      #3
      Thank you !

      At first I thought they are selling complete system (hardware and software), but it's software only ?
      Touch x 2, Booms x 2, Squeeze Cntrl on Samsung S9+ (Duet Receiver + Controllers x 2 - semi-retired)

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        #4
        Originally posted by swayzak View Post
        Thank you !

        At first I thought they are selling complete system (hardware and software), but it's software only ?
        It is software, it works great, and what's more, it's FREE. Although donations are welcomed...

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          #5
          +1 for Raspberry Pi/piCorePlayer, you won't look back.

          piCorePlayer is a Linux operating system but no Linux skills needed, all configuration is done from a web browser on your PC/laptop, dead easy.

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          Lounge - DAC32 - AudioEngine B2
          Office - RPi 3B+/HiFiBerry DAC HAT/RPi screen - Edifier D12
          Bedroom - Echo Show 8

          Spares - 1xSB Touch, 1xSB3, 4xRPi, AVI DM5 speakers

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            #6
            Originally posted by swayzak View Post
            Hello

            With the impending loss of BBC Shoutcast streams and no workaround via MySB.com, I need to consider an replacement always-on way of streaming via my SB hardware.

            Previously I have used a low end laptop / netbook, but would am looking at alternatives eg raspberry pi or similar.

            Is anyone selling ready made hardware ready to use or do these servers have to built from scratch ?

            If the latter is it complicated, and there specific web resources for guidance ?

            Do raspberry pi servers suffer from being relatively underpowered compared to laptop, tablet etc ?

            Thanks
            Certainly a raspberry pi is enough to run LMS

            Other alternatives would be a a low powered computer like a Dell Optiplex (from the bay of sometimes not so evil) or if you have an unused computer / laptop, pop a Linux Mint or Debian OS on it and install LMS.

            64 bit processer is preferable, but 32 bit is possible, with a little binary building (it just takes time and patience).

            I'm playing this morning with an O2 Joggler which has a Debian Bullseye Lite OS install running LMS V8.3.1, Local Player Plugin and Jivelite.

            If buying a raspberry pi, I would recommend to use an approved reseller (no price gauging allowed) and take advantage of the guarentee that is offered.
            If you buy second hand then be prepared to lose money if it fails (they do sometime fail).

            Plenty of help available

            ronnie

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              #7
              Thanks all

              I already have LMS running on an old i5 Asus laptop, but don't really want to leave this running 24/7 (hence interest in RP).

              However I don't really have the time (nor possibly tech skills) to build from scratch 🙁
              Touch x 2, Booms x 2, Squeeze Cntrl on Samsung S9+ (Duet Receiver + Controllers x 2 - semi-retired)

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                #8
                Putting the device into a case is harder than getting LMS running on it afterwards.
                When problems arise with pCP (or other Pi based system) it is usually when using it as a player or when trying to set it up to access music files from storage systems in the house.
                But as a streaming server for internet radio it is really easy to get running.
                Paul Webster
                Author of "Now Playing" plugins covering Radio France (FIP etc), PlanetRadio (Bauer - Kiss, Absolute, Scala, JazzFM etc), KCRW, ABC Australia and CBC/Radio-Canada
                and, via the extra "Radio Now Playing" plugin lots more - see https://forums.slimdevices.com/showt...Playing-plugin

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Paul Webster View Post
                  Putting the device into a case is harder than getting LMS running on it afterwards.
                  Accurate assessment. But the first time may take you a bit longer. If you follow the "how to"s in Michael's second link, column on the left, you can easily be up and running in under an hour, if you don't stop to think about what you are doing (a problem I have). If you do get stuck, do a google search of "squeezebox forums xxxxxx" where xxxxx is your problem, and there will be a thread here on it. I find the web search easier than the forum search.

                  oh, and note - picoreplayer is changing faster than the "how to's" so the documentation might not look exactly the same as what you see during setup.

                  Ronnie's comment on buying from a reseller is a good one, but you might not find one. While a pi 4 is ideal, I have one server (only) running on a 3b+ and it's fine. You should be able to find a 3b+ easier and cheaper. Then when the pi supply issue is resolved (?) you can get a 4 from a reseller.

                  Jim

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                    #10
                    Thanks again

                    Is there a suitable low(ish) power alternative which won't require building system ?

                    Does LMS run on a Chromebook ?

                    Is there an easy way to set up a Windows 10/11 laptop to come out of sleep mode when using LMS ?
                    Touch x 2, Booms x 2, Squeeze Cntrl on Samsung S9+ (Duet Receiver + Controllers x 2 - semi-retired)

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Redrum View Post
                      Accurate assessment. But the first time may take you a bit longer. If you follow the "how to"s in Michael's second link, column on the left, you can easily be up and running in under an hour, if you don't stop to think about what you are doing (a problem I have). If you do get stuck, do a google search of "squeezebox forums xxxxxx" where xxxxx is your problem, and there will be a thread here on it. I find the web search easier than the forum search.

                      oh, and note - picoreplayer is changing faster than the "how to's" so the documentation might not look exactly the same as what you see during setup.

                      Ronnie's comment on buying from a reseller is a good one, but you might not find one. While a pi 4 is ideal, I have one server (only) running on a 3b+ and it's fine. You should be able to find a 3b+ easier and cheaper. Then when the pi supply issue is resolved (?) you can get a 4 from a reseller.

                      Jim
                      I can see loads of new RP4s on Amazon.co uk - have I misunderstood re supply issue ?
                      Touch x 2, Booms x 2, Squeeze Cntrl on Samsung S9+ (Duet Receiver + Controllers x 2 - semi-retired)

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by swayzak View Post
                        Is there an easy way to set up a Windows 10/11 laptop to come out of sleep mode when using LMS ?
                        Some Squeezebox devices will send a "Wake-On-LAN" packet to the server PC when they are put into play mode. Generally, Windows can be configured to respond to this:
                        Yes, you can wake up a computer remotely. In this guide, we'll show you how on Windows 10.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by swayzak View Post
                          I can see loads of new RP4s on Amazon.co uk - have I misunderstood re supply issue ?
                          They're taking the p*** with those prices, don't encourage them. I think my Pi4 was £54.

                          If you like I can send you a Pi3B (as mentioned by Michael above) in a clear case, complete with micro SD card with LMS installed, and a power supply, free of charge, something to play with until Pi4 prices come down.

                          Send it back if you eventually get a Pi4, or make me an offer if you decide it's powerful enough for your needs.

                          If you can install and configure LMS on a laptop, you can easily do the same on a Raspberry Pi.

                          Loads of willing helpers on these forums.

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                          Server - LMS 8.4.0 RPi4B 4GB/NanoSound ONE case/pCP 8.1.0 - 75K library, playlists & LMS cache on Sata SSD (ntfs)

                          Lounge - DAC32 - AudioEngine B2
                          Office - RPi 3B+/HiFiBerry DAC HAT/RPi screen - Edifier D12
                          Bedroom - Echo Show 8

                          Spares - 1xSB Touch, 1xSB3, 4xRPi, AVI DM5 speakers

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by swayzak View Post
                            I can see loads of new RP4s on Amazon.co uk - have I misunderstood re supply issue ?
                            If you mean items like this it is massively overpriced.
                            Raspberry Pi 4 Model B (4GB) https://amzn.eu/d/f66R4s6


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                            Bedroom: Radio
                            Bathroom: Radio

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Apesbrain View Post
                              Some Squeezebox devices will send a "Wake-On-LAN" packet to the server PC when they are put into play mode. Generally, Windows can be configured to respond to this:
                              https://www.windowscentral.com/how-e...wol-windows-10
                              Do you know which devices ? Boom and Touch per chance ?
                              Touch x 2, Booms x 2, Squeeze Cntrl on Samsung S9+ (Duet Receiver + Controllers x 2 - semi-retired)

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