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  • cliveb
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    Originally posted by pablolie View Post
    Is that really a new insight :-) Does anyone get a doctorate for claiming you "eat with your eyes" and food presentation matters? :-D
    Of course it's not a new insight. But it's something that die-hard audiophiles refuse to accept. They seem to believe that whatever differences they hear must come only from the sound, and that knowing the identity of components does not influence them.

    But that's not the point. I'm intruiged to understand the meaning of your first reference to her. I have no idea why you even brought her up, and the wording sounds kinda dismissive. What's your beef with her?

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  • pablolie
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    Originally posted by cliveb View Post
    I don't know what you're trying to say here. Can you elaborate?

    The thing I know about Poppy Crum is that she convincingly demonstrated that other senses can affect what you hear - which fundamentally renders sighted listening comparisons worthless.
    Is that really a new insight :-) Does anyone get a doctorate for claiming you "eat with your eyes" and food presentation matters? :-D

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  • cliveb
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    Originally posted by pablolie View Post
    What, you guys don't submit yourself to the authoritative opinion of "Dr. Poppy Crum"? :-D
    I don't know what you're trying to say here. Can you elaborate?

    The thing I know about Poppy Crum is that she convincingly demonstrated that other senses can affect what you hear - which fundamentally renders sighted listening comparisons worthless.

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  • pablolie
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    What, you guys don't submit yourself to the authoritative opinion of "Dr. Poppy Crum"? :-D

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  • lrossouw
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    Originally posted by P Nelson View Post
    The subsidiary point is that while CD players (for instance) don't show up the effects of vibrations as obviously as, say, turntables, simple things like heavy footfall, cars whizzing by your home, planes overhead or even the sound from your speakers – especially at loud volumes – can make data-reading mechanisms work harder, which can affect the sound you get from your system.


    If a noise from a car or plane can be heard in the room, then who cares if it might actually impact the ability of the CD player to read music. It also ignores that CD players have buffering and multi samples to reliability read the data.
    Lol and it's a digital process. So it either works or it doesn´t. There is not quality gradient. CD players in the car being a clear example. Older ones used to cut out for a bit after hitting a pothole or driving on a dirt road.

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  • P Nelson
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    When I read articles like this, I am wondering if it supposed to be a farce for humor purposes or are they really serious. However, it reads like there are being serious.

    There are a few things that do not make any sense, such as the following in item 4:
    A dedicated feed from your fusebox, just for your hi-fi and not shared with any other items, is a good thing to do regardless. And yes, you probably need a pretty serious system to really hear this – but rest assured, there is some science behind this rumour.

    In the US, most homes are supplied by two hot wires that have 120 volts potential to ground and 240 volts between each hot feed. Therefore, each hot wire will supply multiple circuits in your home. If there is a device creating line noise on a circuit, it will impact other circuits that share the same hot feed from the transformer. Therefore, in terms of line noise, having a dedicated circuit to supply your hifi set up will probably not help, unless the hifi system draws a lot of current requiring its own circuit. This is a UK article, and I am not sure about the wiring for UK systems, but my guess the conclusions are similar.

    This issue ignores that in a very expensive system, the designer will put a lot of filtering the input power to strip out line noise. Even cheaper car audio systems do this to strip out alternator noise which is very audible to the lower frequencies.

    Item 5, besides the phrase "squash balls" made me laugh
    The subsidiary point is that while CD players (for instance) don't show up the effects of vibrations as obviously as, say, turntables, simple things like heavy footfall, cars whizzing by your home, planes overhead or even the sound from your speakers – especially at loud volumes – can make data-reading mechanisms work harder, which can affect the sound you get from your system.

    If a noise from a car or plane can be heard in the room, then who cares if it might actually impact the ability of the CD player to read music. It also ignores that CD players have buffering and multi samples to reliability read the data.

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  • d6jg
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    Originally posted by philchillbill View Post
    They forgot to mention that if you cannot hear the difference you should actually be extremely ashamed of your blatant inferiority because that difference is of course clearly there !
    I have read the article. I really don’t know what to say!

    I always “upgrade” the interconnects but only because (slightly) more expensive ones are less prone to fall apart.

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  • philchillbill
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    Originally posted by P Nelson View Post
    there is one statement at the end of the article that I agree with:
    "And, it bears repeating: what matters is what you hear, so if you can't hear the difference, save yourself a whole load of trouble and money. "
    They forgot to mention that if you cannot hear the difference you should actually be extremely ashamed of your blatant inferiority because that difference is of course clearly there !

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  • P Nelson
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    there is one statement at the end of the article that I agree with:
    "And, it bears repeating: what matters is what you hear, so if you can't hear the difference, save yourself a whole load of trouble and money. "

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  • Jeff07971
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    I won't be squashing my balls under equipment !

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  • slartibartfast
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    Originally posted by SlimChances View Post
    Who knew one doesn't have to spend 10s of thousands on audio equipment, just turn off the lights
    It's not like What Hifi to recommend blind tests [emoji1787]

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  • SlimChances
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    Who knew one doesn't have to spend 10s of thousands on audio equipment, just turn off the lights

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  • garym
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    Great summary of the top audiophool nonsense ideas.

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  • castalla
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    Originally posted by slartibartfast View Post
    It is quite well written, however, given what normally passes for journalism these days!

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  • slartibartfast
    started a topic What Hifi tosh

    What Hifi tosh

    If you want a laugh read this.


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