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  • UK RadioPlayer changing to invoke BBC Sounds / Web

    From late January 2023, the way you listen to live BBC Radio programmes will change.   On the Radioplayer mobile app, when you click to play a programme, you will be taken to the BBC Sounds app or website to listen to it.  

    Paul Webster
    Author of "Now Playing" plugins covering Radio France (FIP etc), PlanetRadio (Bauer - Kiss, Absolute, Scala, JazzFM etc), KCRW, ABC Australia and CBC/Radio-Canada
    and, via the extra "Radio Now Playing" plugin lots more - see https://forums.slimdevices.com/showt...Playing-plugin

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    • Originally posted by Paul Webster
      UK RadioPlayer changing to invoke BBC Sounds / Web

      From late January 2023, the way you listen to live BBC Radio programmes will change.   On the Radioplayer mobile app, when you click to play a programme, you will be taken to the BBC Sounds app or website to listen to it.  
      Thanks for the info. Interestingly, the RadioPlayer plugin already links through to the BBC Sounds plugin. Still, I expect I will need to make changes to the radio player plugin.
      Stuart McLean

      ExpectingToFly Plugins :
      BBC Sounds, Global Player (UK), Times Radio, UK Radio Player, Virgin Radio (UK) and the Radio Favourites Plugin

      For BBC Sounds help see the BBC Sounds Wiki.

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      • Release 2.27.0

        This release contains :
        • You can now customise the top level home menu of BBC Sounds. Certain items can now be removed/added by amending the options in the BBC Sounds settings.
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        • Continue Listening can now be added to the home menu in preferences.
        • Items in "Continue Listening" now indicate whether they are a "Resume" or "Next Episode" if you are viewing from a controller that shows the 2nd line (e.g. Material Skin)
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        It's available now from beta repository and will be available from the standard main repository at the next refresh later today.
        Stuart McLean

        ExpectingToFly Plugins :
        BBC Sounds, Global Player (UK), Times Radio, UK Radio Player, Virgin Radio (UK) and the Radio Favourites Plugin

        For BBC Sounds help see the BBC Sounds Wiki.

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        • Does anyone know how to remove entries from "Continue Listening"?

          I now have several programmes listed that I don't want to continue listening to, but I can't find any way to edit the list on any 'version' of BBC Sounds that I use (Android app, the BBC Sounds website, or this wonderful plugin).

          I'm sure I remember there being an 'edit' option somewhere, but just cannot find it now. Or else my memory is even worse than I suspected.

          Thanks
          Duet x 3, via various hi-fi. LMS running on Raspberry Pi OS (Debian 10) + OMV on a Pi4 (4GB RAM) in an Argon Neo case.

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          • Originally posted by SpiderJon
            Does anyone know how to remove entries from "Continue Listening"?

            I now have several programmes listed that I don't want to continue listening to, but I can't find any way to edit the list on any 'version' of BBC Sounds that I use (Android app, the BBC Sounds website, or this wonderful plugin).

            I'm sure I remember there being an 'edit' option somewhere, but just cannot find it now. Or else my memory is even worse than I suspected.

            Thanks
            If it is related to bookmarks I can't even get them to work in the Android app.
            Living Room: Touch or Squeezelite (Pi3B) > Topping E30 > Audiolab 8000A > Monitor Audio S5 + BK200-XLS DF
            Bedroom: Radio
            Bathroom: Radio

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            • Originally posted by slartibartfast

              If it is related to bookmarks I can't even get them to work in the Android app.
              As far as Bookmarks go, the following works for me in the Android app; hopefully it might also for you.

              To add/remove a bookmark:
              > Go to the specific programme 'page' in the app
              > Open the 3-dots "..." menu
              > "Bookmark episode" or "Remove bookmark", as desired

              To edit the list of Bookmarked programmes:
              > "My Sounds" in the toolbar across the bottom of the app
              > Expand "Bookmarks" (top item in menu list)
              > "Edit" at top right of page
              Duet x 3, via various hi-fi. LMS running on Raspberry Pi OS (Debian 10) + OMV on a Pi4 (4GB RAM) in an Argon Neo case.

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              • Originally posted by SpiderJon

                As far as Bookmarks go, the following works for me in the Android app; hopefully it might also for you.

                To add/remove a bookmark:
                > Go to the specific programme 'page' in the app
                > Open the 3-dots "..." menu
                > "Bookmark episode" or "Remove bookmark", as desired

                To edit the list of Bookmarked programmes:
                > "My Sounds" in the toolbar across the bottom of the app
                > Expand "Bookmarks" (top item in menu list)
                > "Edit" at top right of page
                Thanks. I think I might have been doing it correctly but it seems to take a while for the bookmarks to appear on the app.
                One clunky way to remove items in "Continue listening" is to open them and drag the progress bar to the end 😀
                Living Room: Touch or Squeezelite (Pi3B) > Topping E30 > Audiolab 8000A > Monitor Audio S5 + BK200-XLS DF
                Bedroom: Radio
                Bathroom: Radio

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                • Originally posted by SpiderJon
                  Does anyone know how to remove entries from "Continue Listening"?

                  I now have several programmes listed that I don't want to continue listening to, but I can't find any way to edit the list on any 'version' of BBC Sounds that I use (Android app, the BBC Sounds website, or this wonderful plugin).

                  I'm sure I remember there being an 'edit' option somewhere, but just cannot find it now. Or else my memory is even worse than I suspected.

                  Thanks
                  I suspect I can add a "mark as listened to" option in the plugin, which should do the job. I'll have a look....
                  Stuart McLean

                  ExpectingToFly Plugins :
                  BBC Sounds, Global Player (UK), Times Radio, UK Radio Player, Virgin Radio (UK) and the Radio Favourites Plugin

                  For BBC Sounds help see the BBC Sounds Wiki.

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                  • My LMS server.log has the following pair of error messages, repeated approx every three minutes:


                    [23-01-31 00:43:02.5066] Plugins::BBCSounds::BBCSoundsFeeder::__ANON__ (696) error: 404 Not Found
                    [23-01-31 00:43:02.5107] Plugins::BBCSounds::BBCSoundsFeeder::__ANON__ (696) error: 404 Not Found
                    [23-01-31 00:46:12.6336] Plugins::BBCSounds::BBCSoundsFeeder::__ANON__ (696) error: 404 Not Found
                    [23-01-31 00:46:12.6704] Plugins::BBCSounds::BBCSoundsFeeder::__ANON__ (696) error: 404 Not Found
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                    I restarted the server and it's still doing it. I upped the log level to debug but it doesn't show any more relevant detail.

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                    • Originally posted by tw99
                      My LMS server.log has the following pair of error messages, repeated approx every three minutes:


                      [23-01-31 00:43:02.5066] Plugins::BBCSounds::BBCSoundsFeeder::__ANON__ (696) error: 404 Not Found
                      [23-01-31 00:43:02.5107] Plugins::BBCSounds::BBCSoundsFeeder::__ANON__ (696) error: 404 Not Found
                      [23-01-31 00:46:12.6336] Plugins::BBCSounds::BBCSoundsFeeder::__ANON__ (696) error: 404 Not Found
                      [23-01-31 00:46:12.6704] Plugins::BBCSounds::BBCSoundsFeeder::__ANON__ (696) error: 404 Not Found
                      ​​
                      I restarted the server and it's still doing it. I upped the log level to debug but it doesn't show any more relevant detail.
                      Something is trying to get the meta data for a programme that doesn't exist anymore. Have you got a player that has been left on but not used for a long while?

                      I'm not sure of the exact scenario that that happens in, but I suspect that has what has happened and there is a programme in a queue. I'll have a look and see if I can stop it getting into that state.
                      Stuart McLean

                      ExpectingToFly Plugins :
                      BBC Sounds, Global Player (UK), Times Radio, UK Radio Player, Virgin Radio (UK) and the Radio Favourites Plugin

                      For BBC Sounds help see the BBC Sounds Wiki.

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                      • Originally posted by expectingtofly

                        Something is trying to get the meta data for a programme that doesn't exist anymore. Have you got a player that has been left on but not used for a long while?

                        I'm not sure of the exact scenario that that happens in, but I suspect that has what has happened and there is a programme in a queue. I'll have a look and see if I can stop it getting into that state.
                        Possibly. While I don't have any native players that are actually "on", I suppose it might be the uPnPbridge or Castbridge for a non-native player that's stuck retrying ? I can see that a couple of those non-native players were last playing some BBC content.

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                        • Originally posted by tw99

                          Possibly. While I don't have any native players that are actually "on", I suppose it might be the uPnPbridge or Castbridge for a non-native player that's stuck retrying ? I can see that a couple of those non-native players were last playing some BBC content.
                          Yes, that will probably be it. This error only occurs when something is explicitly asking for the meta data and the information from the BBC API isn't available. If you switch them to something else and I expect the errors will stop.
                          I'll do some checks to see how the upnpbridge behaves in terms of asking for metadata....
                          Stuart McLean

                          ExpectingToFly Plugins :
                          BBC Sounds, Global Player (UK), Times Radio, UK Radio Player, Virgin Radio (UK) and the Radio Favourites Plugin

                          For BBC Sounds help see the BBC Sounds Wiki.

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                          • Release 2.28.1

                            New Features
                            • You can now add a "Listen Live" menu item to the home menu from preferences. This lists the live radio stations with details of the current programme in line 2, for those controllers that support a second line. The Live stations will still be available from the "Stations and Schedules" along with the catch-up schedule. So this menu is an ease-of-use addition and not required to access live radio.
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                            Bug Fixes
                            • Improved the accuracy of live radio restart current live programme (and skip back to previous programme) so that it now accurately starts at the correct time, rather than 40 seconds before as it did in previous versions.
                            • Improved the reporting of listening progress to the BBC API so that it accurately reports when you have finished listening to a programme (and therefore won't erroneously appear in "Continue Listening").
                            • Other minor bug fixes.

                            It's available now from the beta repository, and will be available from the main repository at the next refresh.
                            Stuart McLean

                            ExpectingToFly Plugins :
                            BBC Sounds, Global Player (UK), Times Radio, UK Radio Player, Virgin Radio (UK) and the Radio Favourites Plugin

                            For BBC Sounds help see the BBC Sounds Wiki.

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                            • Is it new behaviour that the progress bar always starts from zero now no matter when you join the programme? Or does the "Live" programme always start from the beginning? When you start playing a programme there is no indication that it isn't live but you can click on the progress bar to reach the live content. Then if you click an earlier section of the progress bar "Rewound" appears next to the Programme info.
                              Global Player always starts at zero as well but as far as I can tell that isn't the start of the programme and you can't jump forward.
                              Living Room: Touch or Squeezelite (Pi3B) > Topping E30 > Audiolab 8000A > Monitor Audio S5 + BK200-XLS DF
                              Bedroom: Radio
                              Bathroom: Radio

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                              • Originally posted by slartibartfast
                                Is it new behaviour that the progress bar always starts from zero now no matter when you join the programme? Or does the "Live" programme always start from the beginning? When you start playing a programme there is no indication that it isn't live but you can click on the progress bar to reach the live content. Then if you click an earlier section of the progress bar "Rewound" appears next to the Programme info.
                                Global Player always starts at zero as well but as far as I can tell that isn't the start of the programme and you can't jump forward.
                                No, the live programme should adjust the progress bar to where you are in the programme, and play at the live point. There may be a brief few seconds while it gets the info as to where it is in the programme, but it should adjust the progress bar as soon as it does. It is working fine for me, is that not working for you?
                                Stuart McLean

                                ExpectingToFly Plugins :
                                BBC Sounds, Global Player (UK), Times Radio, UK Radio Player, Virgin Radio (UK) and the Radio Favourites Plugin

                                For BBC Sounds help see the BBC Sounds Wiki.

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