Announce: Material Skin

[staresy]

On Android I run with zoom 70%, font small. On my mobile this gives the best compromise.

The most annoying thing I was seeing with standard settings (regular font, 50% zoom) was that album reviews (via MAI) were often presented with album artwork images displayed alongside a narrow band of text, making them look untidy and difficult to read, see below (regular, 50% followed by small, 70%).

The small/70% is preferable to me as the text is pretty much the same size and the formatting is improved, at least on my particular mobile.

[SamY]

On Android I run with zoom 70%, font small. On my mobile this gives the best compromise.

The most annoying thing I was seeing with standard settings (regular font, 50% zoom) was that album reviews (via MAI) were often presented with album artwork images displayed alongside a narrow band of text, making them look untidy and difficult to read, see below (regular, 50% followed by small, 70%).

he small/70% is preferable to me as the text is pretty much the same size and the formatting is improved, at least on my particular mobile.

Nice catch! I also was annoyed by that narrow text column beside the artist pic in MAI. Changing to "Small, 70%" fixed it without changing the main display except for losing the power button in the upper left corner, which is a trade-off I can live with. Thumbs up!

[staresy]

Nice catch! I also was annoyed by that narrow text column beside the artist pic in MAI. Changing to "Small, 70%" fixed it without changing the main display except for losing the power button in the upper left corner, which is a trade-off I can live with. Thumbs up!

I hadn't noticed the power button disappearing, but as I've been running small/70% for months now, I guess I don't miss it

[SamY]

I've been meaning to post this for awhile but keep forgetting. As far as I can tell, there isn't any way to save changes made in the main "Player settings" menu screen. There is no "Save Settings" button displayed, as there is on the "Extra player settings" screens, and any changes made on the screen are not saved. Am I missing something?

[cpd73]

I've been meaning to post this for awhile but keep forgetting. As far as I can tell, there isn't any way to save changes made in the main "Player settings" menu screen. There is no "Save Settings" button displayed, as there is on the "Extra player settings" screens, and any changes made on the screen are not saved. Am I missing something?

Settings are saved when you close the dialog (as per most settings pages in Android). The pages with "Save settings" are not actually from Material, but from the "Classic" skin with some CSS tweaks.

[slartibartfast]

I hadn't noticed the power button disappearing, but as I've been running small/70% for months now, I guess I don't miss it

Now I have tried the 70% zoom and small font I have gone back to regular font keeping the 70% zoom. Although I preferred the text size of the small font I got the impression that the gap between menu items was too big. Losing the player icon/power button doesn't bother me as I wasn't using the power button anyway 😀

[staresy]

Now I have tried the 70% zoom and small font I have gone back to regular font keeping the 70% zoom. Although I preferred the text size of the small font I got the impression that the gap between menu items was too big. Losing the player icon/power button doesn't bother me as I wasn't using the power button anyway 😀

Yeah, I thought the same originally re the gap between menu items but I've got used to it. I just tried going back to regular/70% and the font looks way too big to me now - it looks like a kids learning to read book!

[d6jg]

Tiny anomaly in display of track listing.

This is track listing of Herbie Hancock's Maiden Voyage (1965) - a lovely jazz album btw - when accessed in the "usual way" i.e. from Artist / Album etc



This is the track listing of the same album when "browsed" from the bottom of the MAI bio - note only 16bit is shown rather than the full tech info as before





Obviously it makes no difference to functionality so I am reporting it purely as an anomaly and it is entirely up to Craig whether he wants to correct or not.

I think it is across all browser types.

[cpd73]

Tiny anomaly in display of track listing.
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Obviously it makes no difference to functionality so I am reporting it purely as an anomaly and it is entirely up to Craig whether he wants to correct or not.

Yeah, for some reason I added the bit-size meta-data flag regardless of tech info display. I've now fixed this, and tech info should be shown for all track listings (if enabled, and apart from the queue).

[SamY]

Settings are saved when you close the dialog (as per most settings pages in Android). The pages with "Save settings" are not actually from Material, but from the "Classic" skin with some CSS tweaks.

Maybe I wasn't clear. Changes made to the settings on this screen are NOT saved when the dialog is closed. Otherwise, I wouldn't have reported it as a problem.

[cpd73]

Maybe I wasn't clear. Changes made to the settings on this screen are NOT saved when the dialog is closed. Otherwise, I wouldn't have reported it as a problem.

Which specific changes? Because I have just tried, and they are saved for me.

[SamY]

Which specific changes? Because I have just tried, and they are saved for me.

None of them are saved for me. We can start with the "Audio/On song change" crossfade setting. A change made on this page is not saved. However, if the change is made from the "Extra player settings/Audio" page ("Crossfade" setting) and "Save Settings" is pressed, it is saved. The problem is that many of the player settings, specifically those related to alarms, are only available on the main player settings page and thus cannot be changed (for me) in MS.

[cpd73]

None of them are saved for me. We can start with the "Audio/On song change" crossfade setting. A change made on this page is not saved. However, if the change is made from the "Extra player settings/Audio" page ("Crossfade" setting) and "Save Settings" is pressed, it is saved. The problem is that many of the player settings, specifically those related to alarms, are only available on the main player settings page and thus cannot be changed (for me) in MS.

Any errors logged in your browser's developer tools console or network tabs? Which version of Material are you using? If its git/master then I've noticed an issue here. I added a "userInterfaceIdiom:Material" to all JSONRCP queries, so that plugins can know the request is from Material (this was asked for by another user). But, this seems to break some queries. So, I'll remove this before release.

[SamY]

Any errors logged in your browser's developer tools console or network tabs? Which version of Material are you using? If its git/master then I've noticed an issue here. I added a "userInterfaceIdiom:Material" to all JSONRCP queries, so that plugins can know the request is from Material (this was asked for by another user). But, this seems to break some queries. So, I'll remove this before release.

Well, this is embarrassing! After noticing that the changes are actually saved correctly for the players using my Denon AVR Control plugin, I found a bug in the playerpref callback routine of the plugin that results in it incorrectly "eating" the playerpref commands for non-Denon players without calling the original LMS function. Oops!!! Incidents like this remind us how interdependent we all are on each other in this wonderful LMS development world. Fortunately, this is an easily fixed problem that only affects a small subset of users but it would have been more difficult to track down if it hadn't happened to me first. Sorry for causing you additional unnecessary work, Craig. I owe you one.

EDIT: Denon AVR Control plugin updated and verified. Fixed in next release.

[Ron F.]

Technical Info display, sample size added in Material release 3.1.0:
After looking at it for a while now, I suggest that "Bits" be changed and displayed in lower case, and dimensioned as a "size" I think it would look better singular, not plural, example: "Qobuz • 2764kbps 24bit 96kHz FLC • 17 of 18."

Additionally, something I am experiencing when using the desktop display, the output text field for the Technical Info display in the far lower-right corner is now often truncated ending with ellipses when selecting the regular or large font size. I note that desktop Tech Info appears to have a hard limited max width of 180px despite residing in a "flex" div; I don't understand what is causing this limitation, even when there is plenty of room available for more chars? To support the large font, with source and tech info, allowing for a max size of 260 px would probably suffice.