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[cpd73]

That said I don't see the point of repeating "Roxy Music" under every track - wouldn't it be better located on the top line in front of "12 Tracks (48:38)" ?

I agree. Depends upon what you think is more important - artist name or tack count / total duration. Do you really need the artist name here, considerig you probably clicked "My Music -> Artist > ARTIST -> ALBUM"

[d6jg]

An observation about this.

Depending on what client you are using the Album Artist is often not visible at all.

The screenshot is Material on a PC set to utilise half of a widescreen monitor in Desktop layout but on a Mobile the same applies - arguably worse.
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I have browsed to 12 of Their Greatest Hits by Roxy Music - nowhere is "Roxy Music" currently actually visible due to the length of the album title (which isn't that long actually)

That said I don't see the point of repeating "Roxy Music" under every track - wouldn't it be better located on the top line in front of "12 Tracks (48:38)" ?

[cpd73]

I prefer the current view Craig. I don't really need the Artist under each track. Seems superfluous to me except for compilation albums.

I'm leaning that way, to - but have time on right, as per queue. The current implementation always shows artist, so I'm going to see what its like. I can then adjust the code to remove this if they are the same as the artist of the album.

[Jeddie]

At the risk of opening a can of worms, I'm considering changing the way tracks are listed in the browse page. Currently tracks look like this:



With the time shown as a sub-title, album-artist shown next to title in toolbar, and track artists would be shown next to each title. The issue I have with this is that I don't like showing the album artist name to the right of the album name in the toolbar. If I could I'd have some sort of auto-collapsing breadcrumb widget, so that if there was space the album-artist would be shown to the left. But I have no idea how to do this, so that items on the left are removed when insufficient space. Hence the current compromise of showing on the right - as that is the side where text is truncated (so album-artist is truncated before the album name). Now I realise I could create a taller toolbar here, so as to have 3 lines - but I like the symmetry with the queue. I could also, perhaps, show artist name as the subtitle in the toolbar - but that would then give insufficient space (when using mobile devices) to see track count and total duration...

Therefore, I'm thinking of making the browse track list look similar to that in the queue, as shown below:



...and for a various artists album:


I'm not 100% convinced on the artist-name being shown when its the same for all tracks. However, it does allow me to remove it from the toolbar, and is consistent with Spotify (I checked open.spotify.com). I could only show the sub-text if each track has a different artist, but then I need to locate a suitable place to show the album-artist.

For completeness, tech info and ratings would be shown on the same line as is used for artists here.

Thoughts/ideas? Please note I'm not looking for a complete re-write, or some overly fancy style with separate lines for composers, conductors, etc.

I prefer the current view Craig. I don't really need the Artist under each track. Seems superfluous to me except for compilation albums.

[cpd73]

How about albums such as this compilation that contain tracks of varying bit depth and sample rate?

Not sure, but anyway this is getting side-tracked - the whoel point was to discuss the new-look track listing and whether to always show artist (even if the same for all tracks).

[SamY]

No. I'm on about when listing tracks of one album. For that I'm thinking a summary could be shown - e.g. min..max values, or average values.

How about albums such as this compilation that contain tracks of varying bit depth and sample rate?

[Shozzer]

I do exactly the same.

Another reason is that I have some early needledrops that I did to MP3. I’m in the process of redoing these to FLAC. The tech info helps me identify those that need redoing.

As long as I can find it when browsing I’ll be happy.

[cpd73]

I have to say that I do find the sample info very useful.

Different use cases I guess. But never been of interest to me, and definitely not so prominent.

How would you get LMS to show the info on an album level, particularly if there is a playlist from multiple albums?

No. I'm on about when listing tracks of one album. For that I'm thinking a summary could be shown - e.g. min..max values, or average values.

[d6jg]

...and to me that again is pretty pointless. Why would I want the same album only differing in sample rate, etc? Surely I'd only ever want to play the best quality. But that's just me. I'm thinking this tech info should be shown for the album, not the tracks. Just not sure where. But not an important point for me, as I only ever have 1 copy of an album.

I have lots of different versions of some albums. I may be in the minority but I’m certainly not alone!

Another reason is that I have some early needledrops that I did to MP3. I’m in the process of redoing these to FLAC. The tech info helps me identify those that need redoing.

As long as I can find it when browsing I’ll be happy.

[darrell]

Ah, I only tested web-app on a phone. If those web-apps don't set "display-mode: standalone" or "display-mode: fullscreen" then the handling of "navigate back" is not overridden. It's this "navigate back" that the swipe invokes. I made it web-app only as I thought it was perhaps a bit hostile to override a browser's back button, but I'll revert for 3.5.0

Thanks, Craig.

[Shozzer]

I have to say that I do find the sample info very useful. How would you get LMS to show the info on an album level, particularly if there is a playlist from multiple albums?

...and to me that again is pretty pointless. Why would I want the same album only differing in sample rate, etc? Surely I'd only ever want to play the best quality. But that's just me. I'm thinking this tech info should be shown for the album, not the tracks. Just not sure where. But not an important point for me, as I only ever have 1 copy of an album.

[cpd73]

On my android phone (using Chrome) I can see the top & bottom notification & navigation bars. Where do I find the 'server-side settings to remove these?

Ah, the required setting for this was removed in 3.4.0 as I saw no real point in fullscreen with Android's gesture navigation and as a user reported issues with it. For fullscreen, etc, I recommend you use the Material APK anyway.

[cpd73]

Sorry to go on about this, but I've reverted to 3.3.5 because I really want the swipe navigation in my (Debian and Chromeos) Chrome web apps. You suggested that it should still work under 3.4 in a web app, If I understood correctly, but it doesn't for me.

Ah, I only tested web-app on a phone. If those web-apps don't set "display-mode: standalone" or "display-mode: fullscreen" then the handling of "navigate back" is not overridden. It's this "navigate back" that the swipe invokes. I made it web-app only as I thought it was perhaps a bit hostile to override a browser's back button, but I'll revert for 3.5.0

[cpd73]

Tech info is useful if you have different versions of an album where for example one is 16/44.1 but another is 24/96. There would be no way of browsing and finding the version you want to play (unless included in the album title).

...and to me that again is pretty pointless. Why would I want the same album only differing in sample rate, etc? Surely I'd only ever want to play the best quality. But that's just me. I'm thinking this tech info should be shown for the album, not the tracks. Just not sure where. But not an important point for me, as I only ever have 1 copy of an album.

[cpd73]

I would like to remap keyboard shortcuts. For example, I would like to remap Control+D to get track info by pressing the "menu" key on my mini-keyboard.
Is there any way of achieving this?

Nope, sorry.