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    The Trouble with Tribbles (aka Thin Clients)

    I need to step away from ebay. The monitor just arrived today, it's a Samsung TC222W with built-in thin client. Not pictured is a Wyse 5070 currently running as my home file server and LMS server and a Wyse 3040 (same as the small ones on the left) running as my main home router. Both the server and router are running Alpine Linux and are, without a doubt, the best hardware I've had in these roles to date. Very happy with them.

    As far as the rest of the group pictured, the 4 3030's (center right) the 3030lt (center left) and the 3 3040's (left) I've reloaded with Alpine for testing. The 5 M300's were the armel boxes I got for $10 a piece and I sort of gave up on after having some random file corruption that I never resolved.

    Some of these will be running squeezelite I'm sure so I don't feel like this is completely off topic.
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    #2
    Why would I choose a used Wyse 3040 over a new Pi 4? They are comparable in price and specification, but the Pi has a wealth of addons available that the Wyse terminal does not. Also, the Pi is available with more RAM.

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      #3
      Originally posted by troffasky View Post
      Why would I choose a used Wyse 3040 over a new Pi 4?
      I re-read my post and I can't spot where I advocated that?

      They are comparable in price and specification, but the Pi has a wealth of addons available that the Wyse terminal does not. Also, the Pi is available with more RAM.
      I have a Pi4, had a Pi3 B+, have an original model A, an A+ and at least 10 zero W's. I'm not anti-Pi by any stretch. I got the used 3040's for around $35 a piece and they were wifi models, which many on ebay aren't. So I guest it depends on what your plans are for it and what kind of deal you get. $35 for a 4x4 inch x86_64 box with a traditional BIOS, wifi, case, power supply, USB 3 etc. is a pretty good deal if you don't need GPIO for whatever application you plan to use it for.

      For me, I just enjoy looking for good deals and tinkering around with different hardware.

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        #4
        Ooops, got another offer accepted. $10 each shipped on these, checked them all out tonight - working good. These are 5020's DX0Q.
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          #5
          I picked up an HP T430 thin client recently. Alpine, squeezelite and jivelite all loaded without issue. Didn't try LMS but I'm sure it would be fine, just limited by the 16GB onboard storage. Compared to the Wyse/Dell models I have, kind of nice to have HDMI and 3.5mm at least on the side instead of the front. Not sure why they insist on putting the 3.5mm audio out on the front on most of these as I would guess anyone using these for their intended purpose would still be connecting them to desktop speakers, not headphones.
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            #6
            I agree. The right thin client with the right os can be rock solid.

            I'm running lms on HP t520 with the max 60 gb m.2 drive running Snakeoil os.

            I paid £25 for hp including 60w psu which means I can attach USB3 external drives without needing a powered hub.
            SB Touch (Community firmware v8.01) UE Radio, SMSL Sanskrit MkII, Talk Electronic Cyclone 1.2 amplifier. LMS 8.2 Snakeoil OS, HP t520 thin client.
            BBCiPlayer, BBC Sounds, Shairtunes2 plugins, edo applet

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              #7
              Not a thin client but I thought I'd add it to this thread anyway. I picked up a Scala Media Player L off ebay, it arrived tonight. It's got an Intel Atom x5-Z8350 like the Wyse 3040. I installed Alpine x86_64 without issue and got squeezelite going for a quick check. Working good.

              It's a nice form factor, smaller than it looks. Why on earth they put the power on the side is beyond me. So power on the side, headphone jack in the back. Irritating!
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                #8
                Originally posted by sodface View Post
                Not a thin client but I thought I'd add it to this thread anyway. I picked up a Scala Media Player L off ebay, it arrived tonight. It's got an Intel Atom x5-Z8350 like the Wyse 3040. I installed Alpine x86_64 without issue and got squeezelite going for a quick check. Working good.

                It's a nice form factor, smaller than it looks. Why on earth they put the power on the side is beyond me. So power on the side, headphone jack in the back. Irritating!
                This looks pretty interesting. I'm considering picking one up to use as an LMS and pi-hole server. Any update after using it for a bit?
                Last edited by coldslabs; 2022-04-15, 04:11.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by coldslabs View Post
                  This looks pretty interesting. I'm considering picking one up to use as an LMS and pi-hole server. Any update after using it for a bit?
                  No update, I actually haven't used it all since I first received it and tested it. It's a nice size, but for your use you might be better off with:



                  since it has an internal msata port (though I haven't tested it yet, I assume it's useable).

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by sodface View Post
                    No update, I actually haven't used it all since I first received it and tested it. It's a nice size, but for your use you might be better off with:



                    since it has an internal msata port (though I haven't tested it yet, I assume it's useable).
                    The Seneca HDS does look like a better option. I pulled the trigger. Thanks for posting all your interesting finds and experiments!

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                      #11
                      just received mine. nice bit of kit, not horrendously slow even running win 10. will stick an msata in and see how that fairs
                      PiCorePlayer 8.2 on Allo Digi One Signature (Lounge)
                      PiCorePlayer 8.2 with Hifiberry Digi+ Material running on PI for control (Office)
                      PiCorePlayer 8.2 with pi official touchscreen and Hifiberry DAC+(Kitchen)
                      Radio (Bedroom)
                      PiCorePlayer 8.2 with Allo BOSS DAC (Bedroom)
                      PiCorePlayer 8.2 with Hifiberry AMP+. Squeezelite=x for control (Garage)
                      PiCorePlayer 8.2 with Hifiberry AMP+(Patio 2)
                      PiCorePlayer 8.2 with Hifiberry AMP+(Patio 2)

                      LMS 8.3 on unRaid 6.11.5 Server (Seneca HDS)

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by coldslabs View Post
                        The Seneca HDS does look like a better option. I pulled the trigger. Thanks for posting all your interesting finds and experiments!
                        No problem! Hope it works for you.

                        Originally posted by markiii
                        just received mine. nice bit of kit, not horrendously slow even running win 10. will stick an msata in and see how that fairs
                        I'm interested in your test results!

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                          #13
                          Seneca HDS

                          So far so good with the Seneca HDS. I installed Debian 11 (with XFCE), LMS/docker and pi-hole. Everything has been running great for a few weeks.

                          The only problem I encountered was trying to get it to boot off a USB drive. I tried a number of configuration suggestions for UEFI but was never successful. I ended up burning a CD from the Debian ISO and using an external DVD drive.

                          @markiii - Any success installing an msata SSD in your Seneca HDS?
                          Last edited by coldslabs; 2022-04-30, 05:16.

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                            #14
                            yep, all in and working, much much faster than the emmc memory
                            PiCorePlayer 8.2 on Allo Digi One Signature (Lounge)
                            PiCorePlayer 8.2 with Hifiberry Digi+ Material running on PI for control (Office)
                            PiCorePlayer 8.2 with pi official touchscreen and Hifiberry DAC+(Kitchen)
                            Radio (Bedroom)
                            PiCorePlayer 8.2 with Allo BOSS DAC (Bedroom)
                            PiCorePlayer 8.2 with Hifiberry AMP+. Squeezelite=x for control (Garage)
                            PiCorePlayer 8.2 with Hifiberry AMP+(Patio 2)
                            PiCorePlayer 8.2 with Hifiberry AMP+(Patio 2)

                            LMS 8.3 on unRaid 6.11.5 Server (Seneca HDS)

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by coldslabs View Post
                              So far so good with the Seneca HDS. I installed Debian 11 (with XFCE), LMS/docker and pi-hole. Everything has been running great for a few weeks.

                              The only problem I encountered was trying to get it to boot off a USB drive. I tried a number of configuration suggestions for UEFI but was never successful. I ended up burning a CD from the Debian ISO and using an external DVD drive.

                              @markiii - Any success installing an msata SSD in your Seneca HDS?
                              I've been playing with my Seneca HDS's (Thanks Markii) with Debian 11 I had no trouble booting from USB

                              You need to drop to BIOS Setup and use "Boot override"

                              Tested so far on Debian 11.3 x64:

                              LMS Seems to work fine
                              Squeezelite Seems to work fine
                              mSATA (An old Samsung PM851) works fine but errors in syslog IMO due to the msata not supporting some options
                              Jivelite has some problems, I'll post here if I can find an answer

                              Jeff
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