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    Dear Community,
    I have two RPI 3 B systems with a HiFiBerry Digi+ Pro, one with a SSD and LMS and Samba serving the SSD so I can rip FLAC Files to it from my Windows PC, the other in my living room playing music from the RPI with LMS with the attached SSD.

    Question: I bought an Allo DigiOne. Can I simply take off the Digi+ Pro HAT and attach the Allo DigiOne HAT and then just change the Squeezelite Audio Output Device setting to use the DigiOne?

    Also, what do I change the Output setting setting to? I currently have it set to: hw:CARD=sndrpihifiberry and finally do the ALSA settings change from: 8 4 1

    Thanks!

    Regards
    Steve

  • #2
    There is a chance that you could just swap them out and nothing else change, but they do use different drivers. The Allo Digione uses a reset signal on GPIO 17 in it's drivers, where as the hifiberry does not. The correct way is to change the driver and squeezelite output.

    What OS and kernel are you using?

    You need to change the boot config of your pi to: (config.txt on your boot drive)

    Remove the line
    dtoverlay=hifiberry-digi-pro

    Add this line
    dtoverlay=allo-digione

    Then for the squeezelite output
    set it to: hw:CARD=sndallodigione

    And we recommend alsa settings of 80:4::1
    Last edited by paul-; 2018-07-06, 23:58.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by paul-
      There is a chance that you could just swap them out and nothing else change, but they do use different drivers. The Allo Digione uses a reset signal on GPIO 17 in it's drivers, where as the hifiberry does not. The correct way is to change the driver and squeezelite output.

      What OS and kernel are you using?

      You need to change the boot config of your pi to: (config.txt on your boot drive)

      Remove the line
      dtoverlay=hifiberry-digi-pro

      Add this line
      dtoverlay=allo-digione

      Then for the squeezelite output
      set it to: hw:CARD=sndallodigione

      And we recommend alsa settings of 80:4::1
      THANK YOU VERY MUCH ! Will give this a try! Very much appreciated!

      Regards

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      • #4
        Originally posted by paul-
        There is a chance that you could just swap them out and nothing else change, but they do use different drivers. The Allo Digione uses a reset signal on GPIO 17 in it's drivers, where as the hifiberry does not. The correct way is to change the driver and squeezelite output.

        What OS and kernel are you using?

        You need to change the boot config of your pi to: (config.txt on your boot drive)

        Remove the line
        dtoverlay=hifiberry-digi-pro

        Add this line
        dtoverlay=allo-digione

        Then for the squeezelite output
        set it to: hw:CARD=sndallodigione

        And we recommend alsa settings of 80:4::1

        Hi - had been swamped with work, finally got around to do the upgrade. I swapped out the HiFiBerry Digi+ Board for the Allo Digione, changed the setting in Squeezbox from Digi+ to Digione and the software did the rest!

        The new Allo Digione sounds so amazing, night and day difference! I'm very very happy with the upgrade! Thanks for your help!!! Regards

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        • #5
          I just change from hifiberry digi pro to allo digione, really is a good improvement (RPI 3B / Picoreplayer 8.1). Everithyng work almost perfect except for two thing:
          The first one is that at the begining of the first track the first 1 or 2 seconds is lost, next song o problem, same thing whe file played change resolution (for example 16/44 to 24/96).
          The second problem is that I cannont play nothing trough shairport, wich is running witc same output than squeezelite (hw:CARD=sndallodigione,DEV=0) and the more anoying is after stop the airplay I cannot back to normal play in squeezelite, system says it is playing...but no sound, I had to restart squeezelite an everithyng back to normal.
          Any idea to fix this?

          Thanks

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          • #6
            Originally posted by tobal
            I just change from hifiberry digi pro to allo digione, really is a good improvement (RPI 3B / Picoreplayer 8.1). Everithyng work almost perfect except for two thing:
            The first one is that at the begining of the first track the first 1 or 2 seconds is lost, next song o problem, same thing whe file played change resolution (for example 16/44 to 24/96).
            The second problem is that I cannont play nothing trough shairport, wich is running witc same output than squeezelite (hw:CARD=sndallodigione,DEV=0) and the more anoying is after stop the airplay I cannot back to normal play in squeezelite, system says it is playing...but no sound, I had to restart squeezelite an everithyng back to normal.
            Any idea to fix this?

            Thanks
            use this output setting in both Shairport and squeezelite

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            this will allow volume control from the i device.

            There is a thread somewhere here in which th Op gives info on setting the default audio output to 100 % in the shairport-sync config.

            I posted in the thread but can not now find it

            ronnie


            Also in squeezelite add the -C 5 command

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            Last edited by Man in a van; 2022-03-09, 10:47.

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            • #7
              @tobal

              here you are, for the volume; thanks to @my1704



              remember to back up your changes

              ronnie

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              • #8
                Thanks a lot!
                I will try it later and report asap.

                Thanks!!!!


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                • #9
                  Hi!
                  The Shairport problem is totally solved!
                  But unfortunately the silence at the beginning of first song or when the file resolution change is still present. I am using the rca digital output of the Allo card.
                  Google shows me similar problems in others RPI softwares, RPIs outputs and DACs, but nothing clear in how to solved in my specific case.
                  With the Hifi berry digi these thing does not happen.

                  Any clue??

                  Thanks


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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by tobal2
                    Hi!
                    The Shairport problem is totally solved!
                    But unfortunately the silence at the beginning of first song or when the file resolution change is still present. I am using the rca digital output of the Allo card.
                    Google shows me similar problems in others RPI softwares, RPIs outputs and DACs, but nothing clear in how to solved in my specific case.
                    With the Hifi berry digi these thing does not happen.

                    Any clue??

                    Thanks


                    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
                    Well good news about Shairport

                    I tried the volume control thing yesterday but I could not get the command line addition to stick.

                    so I have removed the pcp-shairport and installed philippe's plugin

                    With regard to the silence at the beginning of the track .....I have no clue, sorry

                    Things to try might include increasing the buffer


                    And we recommend alsa settings of 80:4::1
                    to 160, or checking what it was with the hifiberry.

                    Perhaps remove pcp-shairport and see if that makes a difference

                    It could also be something to do with the manner in which the files were ripped.

                    I would have to spend time looking on the internet too, perhaps you can provide links to similar problems (with regard to LMS and pCP)

                    You don't say if it is files played from a local LMS (where it installed) or a streaming service.

                    More info on your set up might help.

                    Or maybe start a new thread.

                    ronnie

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Man in a van
                      Well good news about Shairport

                      I tried the volume control thing yesterday but I could not get the command line addition to stick.

                      so I have removed the pcp-shairport and installed philippe's plugin

                      With regard to the silence at the beginning of the track .....I have no clue, sorry

                      Things to try might include increasing the buffer




                      to 160, or checking what it was with the hifiberry.

                      Perhaps remove pcp-shairport and see if that makes a difference

                      It could also be something to do with the manner in which the files were ripped.

                      I would have to spend time looking on the internet too, perhaps you can provide links to similar problems (with regard to LMS and pCP)

                      You don't say if it is files played from a local LMS (where it installed) or a streaming service.

                      More info on your set up might help.

                      Or maybe start a new thread.

                      ronnie
                      Hi,

                      I had the same trouble wih the command line addition, but I am happy with it is working with idevice change the volume, because is a feature that I rarely use.
                      I am lot more uncomfurtable with the 1 or 2 seconds of silence problem. I had try some of the things you say, (buffer and alsa seetings) with no success. All the chain is the same where formerly the hifiberry digi did the job with no problem.
                      My DAC shows the corect sample rate input in booth cases, but with allo the songs starts at second number two of the songs (first track or where the sample change).
                      I could not find any similar use case with picoreplayer. The majority of solutions proposal were add a silence at the beggining of the reproduction...and the theory was the dac need a couple of second to change his internal sample rate....wich in my case make little sense due to my hifiberry experience.
                      All the files are local, stored in NAS...no changes neather network or LMS configuraction except the the allo instead of hifiberry.
                      Tonigh I will try again others ways (try and error).

                      Thanks!!!!
                      CSL

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by tobal
                        Hi,

                        I had the same trouble wih the command line addition, but I am happy with it is working with idevice change the volume, because is a feature that I rarely use.
                        I am lot more uncomfurtable with the 1 or 2 seconds of silence problem. I had try some of the things you say, (buffer and alsa seetings) with no success. All the chain is the same where formerly the hifiberry digi did the job with no problem.
                        My DAC shows the corect sample rate input in booth cases, but with allo the songs starts at second number two of the songs (first track or where the sample change).
                        I could not find any similar use case with picoreplayer. The majority of solutions proposal were add a silence at the beggining of the reproduction...and the theory was the dac need a couple of second to change his internal sample rate....wich in my case make little sense due to my hifiberry experience.
                        All the files are local, stored in NAS...no changes neather network or LMS configuraction except the the allo instead of hifiberry.
                        Tonigh I will try again others ways (try and error).

                        Thanks!!!!
                        CSL
                        Well if the Digione is new, it may be faulty

                        Why not try making an image of the Raspberry Pi Bullseye-Lite OS ? (this is headless OS, so you need to SSH to carry out tasks)

                        Update and upgrade the OS, then run

                        Code:
                        sudo apt install squeezelite
                        add the overlay and comment out the onboard audio in /boot/config.txt.

                        Reboot

                        run

                        Code:
                        squeezelite -l
                        Note the output you want to use

                        then run

                        Code:
                        sudo /etc/default/squeezelite
                        configure the settings

                        save and exit

                        do

                        Code:
                        sudo /etc/init.d/squeezelite restart
                        Then run it as a player and see if you get the same result.

                        I can knock up an image for you and let you have a download link if you don't want to do it yourself, but not until tomorrow.

                        ronnie

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Man in a van
                          Well if the Digione is new, it may be faulty

                          Why not try making an image of the Raspberry Pi Bullseye-Lite OS ? (this is headless OS, so you need to SSH to carry out tasks)

                          Update and upgrade the OS, then run

                          Code:
                          sudo apt install squeezelite
                          add the overlay and comment out the onboard audio in /boot/config.txt.

                          Reboot

                          run

                          Code:
                          squeezelite -l
                          Note the output you want to use

                          then run

                          Code:
                          sudo /etc/default/squeezelite
                          configure the settings

                          save and exit

                          do

                          Code:
                          sudo /etc/init.d/squeezelite restart
                          Then run it as a player and see if you get the same result.

                          I can knock up an image for you and let you have a download link if you don't want to do it yourself, but not until tomorrow.

                          ronnie
                          Thanks.
                          Could be a good idea try the BNC digital output first?
                          The Allo is new, buy it trough eBay …but I am in Chile!!!

                          I have to buy the Bnc cable.


                          Cheers!


                          Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by tobal2
                            Thanks.
                            Could be a good idea try the BNC digital output first?
                            The Allo is new, buy it trough eBay …but I am in Chile!!!

                            I have to buy the Bnc cable.


                            Cheers!


                            Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
                            you can buy a BNC to female rca connector and use an ordinary phono cable, cheaper to try

                            Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for BNC Adapter Convertor, BNC Male Plug RCA/Phono Female Socket Pack Of 2 at the best online prices at eBay! Free delivery for many products.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by tobal2


                              Cheers!


                              Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
                              Check your PM

                              ronnie

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