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    Re: blank line before footer

    Hmm - all the messages came through okay for me, with a blank line
    there.

    Anyone else seeing this?

    On Friday, November 7, 2003, at 04:14 PM, Ted Rathkopf wrote:

    > Aaarr, Sean Adams <sadams (AT) slimdevices (DOT) com>
    > What ye be sayin'?
    >
    >> sorry for the barrage of test messages.
    >>
    >> Can't really test and fix performance without real
    >> recipients.

    #2
    Re: blank line before footer

    > Hmm - all the messages came through okay for me, with a blank line
    > there.
    >
    > Anyone else seeing this?


    It looked fine here. Are you keeping the name "Developers" or changing to
    "slimp3-dev"? I'm just wondering if/when to change my filters and what to

    RP

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      #3
      Re: blank line before footer

      * Sean Adams <sadams (AT) slimdevices (DOT) com> shaped the electrons to say...

      > I can easily change the tag, but not the address for the list.
      >
      > Why not just filter for "To: developers (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com" ?


      I'd vote for removing the tag completely. It's redudant information,
      especially when (most?) people filter by the To: line into a folder already.

      -D
      --
      They're techno trousers, ex-NASA, fantastic for walkies!

      Comment


        #4
        Re: blank line before footer

        I agree.

        On Nov 7, 2003, at 4:32 PM, Dan Sully wrote:

        > * Sean Adams <sadams (AT) slimdevices (DOT) com> shaped the electrons to say...
        >
        >> I can easily change the tag, but not the address for the list.
        >>
        >> Why not just filter for "To: developers (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com" ?

        >
        > I'd vote for removing the tag completely. It's redudant information,
        > especially when (most?) people filter by the To: line into a folder
        > already.
        >
        > -D
        > --
        > They're techno trousers, ex-NASA, fantastic for walkies!
        >

        Comment


          #5
          Re: blank line before footer

          > * Sean Adams <sadams (AT) slimdevices (DOT) com> shaped the electrons to say...
          >
          > > I can easily change the tag, but not the address for the list.
          > >
          > > Why not just filter for "To: developers (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com" ?

          >
          > I'd vote for removing the tag completely. It's redudant information,
          > especially when (most?) people filter by the To: line into a folder

          already.

          The To: tags don't catch everything (Bcc:?) and the subject line tag is
          better for that reason. I use subject line filtering where I can but I use
          both methods.

          It does mean those who don't filter can tell which email is from what group
          at a glancel...

          I'd vote for changing it back to slimp3-dev but that's just because I'll
          have to walk over to the server and change it otherwise ;-)

          RP

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            #6
            Re: blank line before footer

            Aaarr, Sean Adams <sadams (AT) slimdevices (DOT) com>
            What ye be sayin'?

            > Hmm - all the messages came through okay for me, with a blank line
            > there.
            >
            > Anyone else seeing this?


            Hmm. It seems to be my mail client. If I look at the raw file, it's
            fine. I've seen it on a couple messages, but the odd thing is they
            all seem to be Sean's.

            Oh well. Nevermind.

            --
            Ted Rathkopf

            Comment


              #7
              Re: subject tags

              Aaarr, Dan Sully <daniel (AT) electricrain (DOT) com>
              What ye be sayin'?

              > * Sean Adams <sadams (AT) slimdevices (DOT) com> shaped the electrons to say...
              >
              >> I can easily change the tag, but not the address for the list.
              >>
              >> Why not just filter for "To: developers (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com" ?

              >
              > I'd vote for removing the tag completely. It's redudant information,
              > especially when (most?) people filter by the To: line into a folder already.


              Even though I'm filtering on the address (in fact, I'm filtering on MY
              address, since it's unique for this list), I like having a subject
              tag. I also vote for changing it. I like my tags to be more
              specific. If you're on more than one developer list, "Developers"
              might not be unique. I really hope the tag for the users list isn't
              just "Users." I'm the user of many things.

              --
              Ted Rathkopf

              Comment


                #8
                Re: blank line before footer

                I personally like "Developers" and I have added a new rule to my filters.

                Way to go Sean/Dean !

                On Sat, 8 Nov 2003 00:22:20 -0000, "Richard Purdie" <rpurdie (AT) rpsys (DOT) net>
                said:
                > > Hmm - all the messages came through okay for me, with a blank line
                > > there.
                > >
                > > Anyone else seeing this?

                >
                > It looked fine here. Are you keeping the name "Developers" or changing to
                > "slimp3-dev"? I'm just wondering if/when to change my filters and what to
                >
                >
                > RP
                >
                >

                Comment


                  #9
                  Re: blank line before footer

                  * Jean-St?fane Bergeron <jsbergeron (AT) fastmail (DOT) fm> shaped the electrons to say...

                  > I personally like "Developers" and I have added a new rule to my filters.


                  Reminds me a bit too much of the Steve Ballmer "developers, developers" thing. =)



                  -D
                  --
                  When Hell freezes over, I'll snowboard there too.

                  Comment


                    #10
                    Re: blank line before footer

                    On Sat, Nov 08, 2003 at 12:39:57AM -0000, Richard Purdie wrote:

                    > The To: tags don't catch everything (Bcc:?) and the subject line tag is
                    > better for that reason. I use subject line filtering where I can but I use
                    > both methods.


                    Filter for the List-Id: header instead of To:

                    In procmail, this would go a little something like this:
                    * ^List-Id.*developers.lists.slimdevices.com

                    All the messages that go thru the list will get this header, so you don't
                    have to worry about Cc: nonsense.

                    sean
                    --
                    Sean M. Graham - grahams (AT) gti (DOT) net

                    Comment


                      #11
                      Re: blank line before footer

                      On Friday 07 November 2003 19:39, Richard Purdie wrote:
                      > > * Sean Adams <sadams (AT) slimdevices (DOT) com> shaped the electrons to say...
                      > >
                      > > > I can easily change the tag, but not the address for the list.
                      > > >
                      > > > Why not just filter for "To: developers (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com" ?

                      > >
                      > > I'd vote for removing the tag completely. It's redudant information,
                      > > especially when (most?) people filter by the To: line into a folder

                      >
                      > already.
                      >
                      > The To: tags don't catch everything (Bcc:?) and the subject line tag is
                      > better for that reason. I use subject line filtering where I can but I use
                      > both methods.


                      Filter on Sender: developers-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com
                      That's what Kmail does when you elect to create a filter on list info.

                      Comment


                        #12
                        Re: blank line before footer

                        You can filter on the list id.

                        <developers.lists.slimdevices.com>

                        -Mike

                        On Friday 07 November 2003 07:34 pm, dean blackketter wrote:
                        > I agree.
                        >
                        > On Nov 7, 2003, at 4:32 PM, Dan Sully wrote:
                        > > * Sean Adams <sadams (AT) slimdevices (DOT) com> shaped the electrons to say...
                        > >
                        > >> I can easily change the tag, but not the address for the list.
                        > >>
                        > >> Why not just filter for "To: developers (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com" ?

                        > >
                        > > I'd vote for removing the tag completely. It's redudant information,
                        > > especially when (most?) people filter by the To: line into a folder
                        > > already.
                        > >
                        > > -D
                        > > --
                        > > They're techno trousers, ex-NASA, fantastic for walkies!
                        > >

                        Comment


                          #13
                          Re: blank line before footer

                          Every once in a while, my SliMPS stops playing. Looking at the
                          processes, I see perl taking up most of the CPU time. Sampling perl,
                          I see the processes below. Does anyone know what is going on here?

                          I am running on a rackmounted iMac under Mac OS 10.3 (Panther). -Chuck-




                          >Analysis of sampling pid 423 every 10.000000 milliseconds
                          >Call graph:
                          > 166 Thread_110b
                          > 166 0x2294
                          > 166 0x2420
                          > 166 0x27b0
                          > 166 perl_run
                          > 166 S_run_body
                          > 165 Perl_runops_standard
                          > 104 Perl_pp_sselect
                          > 104 select
                          > 104 select
                          > 8 Perl_pp_helem
                          > 7 Perl_hv_fetch_ent
                          > 3 Perl_hv_fetch_ent
                          > 3 Perl_sv_2pv_flags
                          > 2 Perl_sv_setpvf
                          > 1 Perl_sv_vsetpvf
                          > 1 strlen
                          > 1 strlen
                          > 1 Perl_sv_vsetpvfn
                          > 1 Perl_sv_setpvn
                          > 1 Perl_sv_grow
                          > 1 Perl_safesysmalloc
                          > 1 __pthread_getspecific
                          > 1 __pthread_getspecific
                          > 1 Perl_mg_get
                          > 1 Perl_mg_get
                          > 1 Perl_safesysmalloc
                          > 1 malloc
                          > 1 malloc_zone_malloc
                          > 1 szone_malloc
                          > 1 szone_malloc
                          > 1 Perl_pp_helem
                          > 8 Perl_runops_standard
                          > 4 Perl_pp_entersub
                          > 3 Perl_pp_entersub
                          > 1 0x5e91c
                          > 1 0x5e91c
                          > 4 Perl_pp_subst
                          > 4 Perl_regexec_flags
                          > 4 S_regtry
                          > 4 S_regmatch
                          > 4 S_regmatch
                          > 4 S_regmatch
                          > 4 S_regmatch
                          > 4 S_regmatch
                          > 4 S_regmatch
                          > 4 S_regmatch
                          > 4 S_regmatch
                          > 4 S_regmatch
                          > 4 S_regmatch
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                          >
                          >3 S_regmatch
                          >
                          >3 S_regmatch
                          >
                          >3 S_regmatch
                          >
                          >3 S_regmatch
                          >
                          >3 S_regmatch
                          >
                          >3 S_regmatch
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                          >3 S_regmatch
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                          >3 S_regmatch
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                          >3 S_regmatch
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                          >3 S_regmatch
                          >
                          >3 S_regmatch
                          >
                          >3 S_regmatch
                          >
                          >3 S_regmatch
                          >
                          >3 S_regmatch
                          >
                          >3 S_regmatch
                          >
                          >3 S_regmatch
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                          >3 S_regmatch
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                          >3 S_regmatch
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                          >3 S_regmatch
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                          >3 S_regmatch
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                          >3 S_regmatch
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                          >3 S_regmatch
                          >
                          >3 S_regmatch
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                          >3 S_regmatch
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                          >
                          >2 S_regmatch
                          >
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                          >
                          >2 S_regmatch
                          >
                          >2 S_regmatch
                          >
                          >2 S_regmatch
                          >
                          >2 S_regmatch
                          >
                          >1 S_regcppush
                          >
                          >1 S_regcppush
                          >
                          >1 S_regmatch
                          >
                          >1 S_regmatch
                          >
                          >1 S_regmatch
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                          >1 S_regmatch
                          >
                          >1 S_regmatch
                          >
                          >1 S_regmatch
                          >
                          >1 S_regmatch
                          >
                          >1 Perl_save_alloc
                          >
                          >1 Perl_save_alloc
                          >
                          >1 S_regmatch
                          > 3 Perl_pp_leavesub
                          > 2 Perl_leave_scope
                          > 1 Perl_hv_clear
                          > 1 S_hfreeentries
                          > 1 Perl_hv_free_ent
                          > 1 Perl_sv_free
                          > 1 Perl_sv_clear
                          > 1 szone_free
                          > 1 szone_free
                          > 1 Perl_sv_force_normal_flags
                          > 1 Perl_sv_force_normal_flags
                          > 1 Perl_pp_leavesub
                          > 3 Perl_pp_rv2av
                          > 3 Perl_pp_rv2av
                          > 3 Perl_pp_sassign
                          > 3 Perl_sv_setsv_flags
                          > 1 Perl_sv_grow
                          > 1 Perl_safesysmalloc
                          > 1 malloc
                          > 1 malloc_zone_malloc
                          > 1 szone_malloc
                          > 1 szone_malloc
                          > 1 Perl_sv_setsv_flags
                          > 1 szone_free
                          > 1 szone_free
                          > 3 Perl_pp_sysread
                          > 3 recvfrom
                          > 3 recvfrom
                          > 2 Perl_pp_concat
                          > 1 Perl_sv_2pv_flags
                          > 1 Perl_mg_get
                          > 1 Perl_magic_get
                          > 1 Perl_magic_get
                          > 1 Perl_sv_setpvn
                          > 1 Perl_sv_setpvn
                          > 2 Perl_pp_exists
                          > 2 Perl_hv_exists_ent
                          > 2 Perl_sv_2pv_flags
                          > 2 Perl_sv_setpvf
                          > 2 Perl_sv_vcatpvfn
                          > 1 Perl_sv_grow
                          > 1 Perl_safesysrealloc
                          > 1 realloc
                          > 1 realloc
                          > 1 Perl_sv_vcatpvfn
                          > 2 Perl_pp_return
                          > 1 Perl_pp_return
                          > 1 Perl_sv_mortalcopy
                          > 1 Perl_sv_setsv_flags
                          > 1 Perl_sv_grow
                          > 1 Perl_safesysmalloc
                          > 1 malloc
                          > 1 szone_malloc
                          > 1 szone_malloc
                          > 2 Perl_pp_send
                          > 2 sendto
                          > 2 sendto
                          > 1 0x7f4f8068
                          > 1 0x7f4f8068
                          > 1 Perl_hv_fetch_ent
                          > 1 Perl_hv_fetch_ent
                          > 1 Perl_pp_aassign
                          > 1 Perl_sv_setsv_flags
                          > 1 Perl_sv_upgrade
                          > 1 Perl_sv_upgrade
                          > 1 Perl_pp_aelem
                          > 1 Perl_pp_aelem
                          > 1 Perl_pp_and
                          > 1 Perl_pp_and
                          > 1 Perl_pp_const
                          > 1 Perl_pp_const
                          > 1 Perl_pp_method_named
                          > 1 S_method_common
                          > 1 Perl_hv_fetch_ent
                          > 1 Perl_hv_fetch_ent
                          > 1 Perl_pp_ne
                          > 1 Perl_pp_ne
                          > 1 Perl_pp_nextstate
                          > 1 Perl_free_tmps
                          > 1 Perl_sv_free
                          > 1 Perl_sv_clear
                          > 1 Perl_hv_undef
                          > 1 szone_free
                          > 1 szone_free
                          > 1 Perl_pp_padsv
                          > 1 Perl_pp_padsv
                          > 1 Perl_pp_refgen
                          > 1 S_refto
                          > 1 S_refto
                          > 1 Perl_pp_rv2hv
                          > 1 Perl_pp_rv2hv
                          > 1 Perl_pp_seq
                          > 1 Perl_sv_eq
                          > 1 Perl_sv_eq
                          > 1 Perl_pp_shift
                          > 1 Perl_pp_shift
                          > 1 Perl_pp_unpack
                          > 1 Perl_unpackstring
                          > 1 S_unpack_rec
                          > 1 Perl_newSV
                          > 1 Perl_newSV
                          > 1 Perl_pp_unstack
                          > 1 Perl_leave_scope
                          > 1 Perl_mg_free
                          > 1 szone_free
                          > 1 szone_free
                          > 1 free
                          > 1 free
                          > 1 Perl_pp_shift
                          > 1 Perl_pp_shift
                          >
                          >Total number in stack (recursive counted multiple, when >=5):
                          > 126 S_regmatch
                          >
                          >Sort by top of stack, same collapsed (when >= 5):
                          > select 104
                          > Perl_runops_standard 8
                          > Perl_hv_fetch_ent 5
                          >Sample analysis of process 423 written to file /dev/stdout
                          >Sampling process 423 each 10 msecs 300 times


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                            #14
                            Hanging perl

                            Oops, Sorry, forgot to change the Subject. -Chuck-

                            >Every once in a while, my SliMPS stops playing. Looking at the
                            >processes, I see perl taking up most of the CPU time. Sampling perl,
                            >I see the processes below. Does anyone know what is going on here?
                            >
                            >I am running on a rackmounted iMac under Mac OS 10.3 (Panther). -Chuck-
                            >
                            >
                            >
                            >
                            >>Analysis of sampling pid 423 every 10.000000 milliseconds
                            >>Call graph:
                            >> 166 Thread_110b
                            >> 166 0x2294
                            >> 166 0x2420
                            >> 166 0x27b0
                            >> 166 perl_run
                            >> 166 S_run_body
                            >> 165 Perl_runops_standard
                            >> 104 Perl_pp_sselect
                            >> 104 select
                            >> 104 select
                            >> 8 Perl_pp_helem
                            >> 7 Perl_hv_fetch_ent
                            >> 3 Perl_hv_fetch_ent
                            >> 3 Perl_sv_2pv_flags
                            >> 2 Perl_sv_setpvf
                            >> 1 Perl_sv_vsetpvf
                            >> 1 strlen
                            >> 1 strlen
                            >> 1 Perl_sv_vsetpvfn
                            >> 1 Perl_sv_setpvn
                            >> 1 Perl_sv_grow
                            >> 1 Perl_safesysmalloc
                            >> 1 __pthread_getspecific
                            >> 1 __pthread_getspecific
                            >> 1 Perl_mg_get
                            >> 1 Perl_mg_get
                            >> 1 Perl_safesysmalloc
                            >> 1 malloc
                            >> 1 malloc_zone_malloc
                            >> 1 szone_malloc
                            >> 1 szone_malloc
                            >> 1 Perl_pp_helem
                            >> 8 Perl_runops_standard
                            >> 4 Perl_pp_entersub
                            >> 3 Perl_pp_entersub
                            >> 1 0x5e91c
                            >> 1 0x5e91c
                            >> 4 Perl_pp_subst
                            >> 4 Perl_regexec_flags
                            >> 4 S_regtry
                            >> 4 S_regmatch
                            >> 4 S_regmatch
                            >> 4 S_regmatch
                            >> 4 S_regmatch
                            >> 4 S_regmatch
                            >> 4 S_regmatch
                            >> 4 S_regmatch
                            >> 4 S_regmatch
                            >> 4 S_regmatch
                            >> 4 S_regmatch
                            >> 4 S_regmatch
                            >> 4 S_regmatch
                            >> 4 S_regmatch
                            >> 4 S_regmatch
                            >> 4 S_regmatch
                            >> 4 S_regmatch
                            >> 4 S_regmatch
                            >> 4 S_regmatch
                            >> 4 S_regmatch
                            >> 4 S_regmatch
                            >> 4 S_regmatch
                            >> 4
                            >>S_regmatch
                            >>
                            >>4 S_regmatch
                            >>
                            >>4 S_regmatch
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                            >>4 S_regmatch
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                            >>
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                            >>
                            >>3 S_regmatch
                            >>
                            >>3 S_regmatch
                            >>
                            >>3 S_regmatch
                            >>
                            >>3 S_regmatch
                            >>
                            >>3 S_regmatch
                            >>
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                            >>
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                            >>3 S_regmatch
                            >>
                            >>3 S_regmatch
                            >>
                            >>3 S_regmatch
                            >>
                            >>3 S_regmatch
                            >>
                            >>3 S_regmatch
                            >>
                            >>3 S_regmatch
                            >>
                            >>3 S_regmatch
                            >>
                            >>3 S_regmatch
                            >>
                            >>3 S_regmatch
                            >>
                            >>3 S_regmatch
                            >>
                            >>3 S_regmatch
                            >>
                            >>3 S_regmatch
                            >>
                            >>3 S_regmatch
                            >>
                            >>3 S_regmatch
                            >>
                            >>3 S_regmatch
                            >>
                            >>3 S_regmatch
                            >>
                            >>3 S_regmatch
                            >>
                            >>3 S_regmatch
                            >>
                            >>3 S_regmatch
                            >>
                            >>3 S_regmatch
                            >>
                            >>2 S_regmatch
                            >>
                            >>2 S_regmatch
                            >>
                            >>2 S_regmatch
                            >>
                            >>2 S_regmatch
                            >>
                            >>2 S_regmatch
                            >>
                            >>2 S_regmatch
                            >>
                            >>1 S_regcppush
                            >>
                            >>1 S_regcppush
                            >>
                            >>1 S_regmatch
                            >>
                            >>1 S_regmatch
                            >>
                            >>1 S_regmatch
                            >>
                            >>1 S_regmatch
                            >>
                            >>1 S_regmatch
                            >>
                            >>1 S_regmatch
                            >>
                            >>1 S_regmatch
                            >>
                            >>1 S_regmatch
                            >>
                            >>1 S_regmatch
                            >>
                            >>
                            >>1 S_regmatch
                            >>
                            >>1 S_regmatch
                            >>
                            >>1 S_regmatch
                            >>
                            >>1 S_regmatch
                            >>
                            >>1 S_regmatch
                            >>
                            >>1 S_regmatch
                            >>
                            >>1 S_regmatch
                            >>
                            >>1 S_regmatch
                            >>
                            >>1 S_regmatch
                            >>
                            >>1 Perl_save_alloc
                            >>
                            >>1 Perl_save_alloc
                            >>
                            >>1 S_regmatch
                            >> 3 Perl_pp_leavesub
                            >> 2 Perl_leave_scope
                            >> 1 Perl_hv_clear
                            >> 1 S_hfreeentries
                            >> 1 Perl_hv_free_ent
                            >> 1 Perl_sv_free
                            >> 1 Perl_sv_clear
                            >> 1 szone_free
                            >> 1 szone_free
                            >> 1 Perl_sv_force_normal_flags
                            >> 1 Perl_sv_force_normal_flags
                            >> 1 Perl_pp_leavesub
                            >> 3 Perl_pp_rv2av
                            >> 3 Perl_pp_rv2av
                            >> 3 Perl_pp_sassign
                            >> 3 Perl_sv_setsv_flags
                            >> 1 Perl_sv_grow
                            >> 1 Perl_safesysmalloc
                            >> 1 malloc
                            >> 1 malloc_zone_malloc
                            >> 1 szone_malloc
                            >> 1 szone_malloc
                            >> 1 Perl_sv_setsv_flags
                            >> 1 szone_free
                            >> 1 szone_free
                            >> 3 Perl_pp_sysread
                            >> 3 recvfrom
                            >> 3 recvfrom
                            >> 2 Perl_pp_concat
                            >> 1 Perl_sv_2pv_flags
                            >> 1 Perl_mg_get
                            >> 1 Perl_magic_get
                            >> 1 Perl_magic_get
                            >> 1 Perl_sv_setpvn
                            >> 1 Perl_sv_setpvn
                            >> 2 Perl_pp_exists
                            >> 2 Perl_hv_exists_ent
                            >> 2 Perl_sv_2pv_flags
                            >> 2 Perl_sv_setpvf
                            >> 2 Perl_sv_vcatpvfn
                            >> 1 Perl_sv_grow
                            >> 1 Perl_safesysrealloc
                            >> 1 realloc
                            >> 1 realloc
                            >> 1 Perl_sv_vcatpvfn
                            >> 2 Perl_pp_return
                            >> 1 Perl_pp_return
                            >> 1 Perl_sv_mortalcopy
                            >> 1 Perl_sv_setsv_flags
                            >> 1 Perl_sv_grow
                            >> 1 Perl_safesysmalloc
                            >> 1 malloc
                            >> 1 szone_malloc
                            >> 1 szone_malloc
                            >> 2 Perl_pp_send
                            >> 2 sendto
                            >> 2 sendto
                            >> 1 0x7f4f8068
                            >> 1 0x7f4f8068
                            >> 1 Perl_hv_fetch_ent
                            >> 1 Perl_hv_fetch_ent
                            >> 1 Perl_pp_aassign
                            >> 1 Perl_sv_setsv_flags
                            >> 1 Perl_sv_upgrade
                            >> 1 Perl_sv_upgrade
                            >> 1 Perl_pp_aelem
                            >> 1 Perl_pp_aelem
                            >> 1 Perl_pp_and
                            >> 1 Perl_pp_and
                            >> 1 Perl_pp_const
                            >> 1 Perl_pp_const
                            >> 1 Perl_pp_method_named
                            >> 1 S_method_common
                            >> 1 Perl_hv_fetch_ent
                            >> 1 Perl_hv_fetch_ent
                            >> 1 Perl_pp_ne
                            >> 1 Perl_pp_ne
                            >> 1 Perl_pp_nextstate
                            >> 1 Perl_free_tmps
                            >> 1 Perl_sv_free
                            >> 1 Perl_sv_clear
                            >> 1 Perl_hv_undef
                            >> 1 szone_free
                            >> 1 szone_free
                            >> 1 Perl_pp_padsv
                            >> 1 Perl_pp_padsv
                            >> 1 Perl_pp_refgen
                            >> 1 S_refto
                            >> 1 S_refto
                            >> 1 Perl_pp_rv2hv
                            >> 1 Perl_pp_rv2hv
                            >> 1 Perl_pp_seq
                            >> 1 Perl_sv_eq
                            >> 1 Perl_sv_eq
                            >> 1 Perl_pp_shift
                            >> 1 Perl_pp_shift
                            >> 1 Perl_pp_unpack
                            >> 1 Perl_unpackstring
                            >> 1 S_unpack_rec
                            >> 1 Perl_newSV
                            >> 1 Perl_newSV
                            >> 1 Perl_pp_unstack
                            >> 1 Perl_leave_scope
                            >> 1 Perl_mg_free
                            >> 1 szone_free
                            >> 1 szone_free
                            >> 1 free
                            >> 1 free
                            >> 1 Perl_pp_shift
                            >> 1 Perl_pp_shift
                            >>
                            >>Total number in stack (recursive counted multiple, when >=5):
                            >> 126 S_regmatch
                            >>
                            >>Sort by top of stack, same collapsed (when >= 5):
                            >> select 104
                            >> Perl_runops_standard 8
                            >> Perl_hv_fetch_ent 5
                            >>Sample analysis of process 423 written to file /dev/stdout
                            >>Sampling process 423 each 10 msecs 300 times

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                              #15
                              Re: Hanging perl

                              Chuck,

                              It looks like it's probably rescanning your iTunes music library.xml
                              file, but that shouldn't hose it. Does it come back after a little
                              bit?

                              Also, how big is your music library and how much memory do you have?

                              -dean

                              On Nov 9, 2003, at 11:11 AM, Chuck Rice wrote:

                              >
                              > Oops, Sorry, forgot to change the Subject. -Chuck-
                              >
                              >> Every once in a while, my SliMPS stops playing. Looking at the
                              >> processes, I see perl taking up most of the CPU time. Sampling perl,
                              >> I see the processes below. Does anyone know what is going on here?
                              >>
                              >> I am running on a rackmounted iMac under Mac OS 10.3 (Panther).
                              >> -Chuck-
                              >>
                              >>
                              >>
                              >>
                              >>> Analysis of sampling pid 423 every 10.000000 milliseconds
                              >>> Call graph:
                              >>> 166 Thread_110b
                              >>> 166 0x2294
                              >>> 166 0x2420
                              >>> 166 0x27b0
                              >>> 166 perl_run
                              >>> 166 S_run_body
                              >>> 165 Perl_runops_standard
                              >>> 104 Perl_pp_sselect
                              >>> 104 select
                              >>> 104 select
                              >>> 8 Perl_pp_helem
                              >>> 7 Perl_hv_fetch_ent
                              >>> 3 Perl_hv_fetch_ent
                              >>> 3 Perl_sv_2pv_flags
                              >>> 2 Perl_sv_setpvf
                              >>> 1 Perl_sv_vsetpvf
                              >>> 1 strlen
                              >>> 1 strlen
                              >>> 1 Perl_sv_vsetpvfn
                              >>> 1 Perl_sv_setpvn
                              >>> 1 Perl_sv_grow
                              >>> 1 Perl_safesysmalloc
                              >>> 1 __pthread_getspecific
                              >>> 1 __pthread_getspecific
                              >>> 1 Perl_mg_get
                              >>> 1 Perl_mg_get
                              >>> 1 Perl_safesysmalloc
                              >>> 1 malloc
                              >>> 1 malloc_zone_malloc
                              >>> 1 szone_malloc
                              >>> 1 szone_malloc
                              >>> 1 Perl_pp_helem
                              >>> 8 Perl_runops_standard
                              >>> 4 Perl_pp_entersub
                              >>> 3 Perl_pp_entersub
                              >>> 1 0x5e91c
                              >>> 1 0x5e91c
                              >>> 4 Perl_pp_subst
                              >>> 4 Perl_regexec_flags
                              >>> 4 S_regtry
                              >>> 4 S_regmatch
                              >>> 4 S_regmatch
                              >>> 4 S_regmatch
                              >>> 4 S_regmatch
                              >>> 4 S_regmatch
                              >>> 4 S_regmatch
                              >>> 4 S_regmatch
                              >>> 4 S_regmatch
                              >>> 4 S_regmatch
                              >>> 4 S_regmatch
                              >>> 4 S_regmatch
                              >>> 4 S_regmatch
                              >>> 4 S_regmatch
                              >>> 4 S_regmatch
                              >>> 4 S_regmatch
                              >>> 4 S_regmatch
                              >>> 4 S_regmatch
                              >>> 4
                              >>> S_regmatch
                              >>> 4
                              >>> S_regmatch
                              >>> 4
                              >>> S_regmatch
                              >>> 4
                              >>> S_regmatch
                              >>> 4
                              >>> S_regmatch
                              >>> 4 S_regmatch
                              >>> 4 S_regmatch
                              >>> 4 S_regmatch
                              >>> 4 S_regmatch
                              >>> 4 S_regmatch
                              >>> 4 S_regmatch
                              >>> 4 S_regmatch
                              >>> 4 S_regmatch
                              >>> 3 S_regmatch
                              >>> 3 S_regmatch
                              >>> 3 S_regmatch
                              >>> 3 S_regmatch
                              >>> 3 S_regmatch
                              >>> 3 S_regmatch
                              >>> 3 S_regmatch
                              >>> 3 S_regmatch
                              >>> 3 S_regmatch
                              >>> 3 S_regmatch
                              >>> 3 S_regmatch
                              >>> 3 S_regmatch
                              >>> 3 S_regmatch
                              >>> 3 S_regmatch
                              >>> 3 S_regmatch
                              >>> 3 S_regmatch
                              >>> 3 S_regmatch
                              >>> 3 S_regmatch
                              >>> 3 S_regmatch
                              >>> 3 S_regmatch
                              >>> 3 S_regmatch
                              >>> 3 S_regmatch
                              >>> 3 S_regmatch
                              >>> 3 S_regmatch
                              >>> 3 S_regmatch
                              >>> 3 S_regmatch
                              >>> 3 S_regmatch
                              >>> 3 S_regmatch
                              >>> 3 S_regmatch
                              >>> 3 S_regmatch
                              >>> 3 S_regmatch
                              >>> 3 S_regmatch
                              >>> 3 S_regmatch
                              >>> 3 S_regmatch
                              >>> 3 S_regmatch
                              >>> 3 S_regmatch
                              >>> 3 S_regmatch
                              >>> 3 S_regmatch
                              >>> 3 S_regmatch
                              >>> 3 S_regmatch
                              >>> 3 S_regmatch
                              >>> 3 S_regmatch
                              >>> 3 S_regmatch
                              >>> 3 S_regmatch
                              >>> 3 S_regmatch
                              >>> 3 S_regmatch
                              >>> 3 S_regmatch
                              >>> 3 S_regmatch
                              >>> 3 S_regmatch
                              >>> 3 S_regmatch
                              >>> 3 S_regmatch
                              >>> 3 S_regmatch
                              >>> 3 S_regmatch
                              >>> 3 S_regmatch
                              >>> 3 S_regmatch
                              >>> 3 S_regmatch
                              >>> 3 S_regmatch
                              >>> 3 S_regmatch
                              >>> 3 S_regmatch
                              >>> 3 S_regmatch
                              >>> 3 S_regmatch
                              >>> 3 S_regmatch
                              >>> 3 S_regmatch
                              >>> 3 S_regmatch
                              >>> 3 S_regmatch
                              >>> 3 S_regmatch
                              >>> 3 S_regmatch
                              >>> 3 S_regmatch
                              >>> 3 S_regmatch
                              >>> 3 S_regmatch
                              >>> 3 S_regmatch
                              >>> 3 S_regmatch
                              >>> 3 S_regmatch
                              >>> 2 S_regmatch
                              >>> 2 S_regmatch
                              >>> 2 S_regmatch
                              >>> 2 S_regmatch
                              >>> 2 S_regmatch
                              >>> 2 S_regmatch
                              >>> 1 S_regcppush
                              >>> 1 S_regcppush
                              >>> 1 S_regmatch
                              >>> 1 S_regmatch
                              >>> 1 S_regmatch
                              >>> 1 S_regmatch
                              >>> 1 S_regmatch
                              >>> 1 S_regmatch
                              >>> 1 S_regmatch
                              >>> 1 S_regmatch
                              >>> 1 S_regmatch
                              >>>
                              >>>
                              >>>
                              >>> 1 S_regmatch
                              >>> 1 S_regmatch
                              >>> 1 S_regmatch
                              >>> 1 S_regmatch
                              >>> 1 S_regmatch
                              >>> 1 S_regmatch
                              >>> 1 S_regmatch
                              >>> 1 S_regmatch
                              >>> 1 S_regmatch
                              >>> 1 Perl_save_alloc
                              >>> 1 Perl_save_alloc
                              >>> 1 S_regmatch
                              >>> 3 Perl_pp_leavesub
                              >>> 2 Perl_leave_scope
                              >>> 1 Perl_hv_clear
                              >>> 1 S_hfreeentries
                              >>> 1 Perl_hv_free_ent
                              >>> 1 Perl_sv_free
                              >>> 1 Perl_sv_clear
                              >>> 1 szone_free
                              >>> 1 szone_free
                              >>> 1 Perl_sv_force_normal_flags
                              >>> 1 Perl_sv_force_normal_flags
                              >>> 1 Perl_pp_leavesub
                              >>> 3 Perl_pp_rv2av
                              >>> 3 Perl_pp_rv2av
                              >>> 3 Perl_pp_sassign
                              >>> 3 Perl_sv_setsv_flags
                              >>> 1 Perl_sv_grow
                              >>> 1 Perl_safesysmalloc
                              >>> 1 malloc
                              >>> 1 malloc_zone_malloc
                              >>> 1 szone_malloc
                              >>> 1 szone_malloc
                              >>> 1 Perl_sv_setsv_flags
                              >>> 1 szone_free
                              >>> 1 szone_free
                              >>> 3 Perl_pp_sysread
                              >>> 3 recvfrom
                              >>> 3 recvfrom
                              >>> 2 Perl_pp_concat
                              >>> 1 Perl_sv_2pv_flags
                              >>> 1 Perl_mg_get
                              >>> 1 Perl_magic_get
                              >>> 1 Perl_magic_get
                              >>> 1 Perl_sv_setpvn
                              >>> 1 Perl_sv_setpvn
                              >>> 2 Perl_pp_exists
                              >>> 2 Perl_hv_exists_ent
                              >>> 2 Perl_sv_2pv_flags
                              >>> 2 Perl_sv_setpvf
                              >>> 2 Perl_sv_vcatpvfn
                              >>> 1 Perl_sv_grow
                              >>> 1 Perl_safesysrealloc
                              >>> 1 realloc
                              >>> 1 realloc
                              >>> 1 Perl_sv_vcatpvfn
                              >>> 2 Perl_pp_return
                              >>> 1 Perl_pp_return
                              >>> 1 Perl_sv_mortalcopy
                              >>> 1 Perl_sv_setsv_flags
                              >>> 1 Perl_sv_grow
                              >>> 1 Perl_safesysmalloc
                              >>> 1 malloc
                              >>> 1 szone_malloc
                              >>> 1 szone_malloc
                              >>> 2 Perl_pp_send
                              >>> 2 sendto
                              >>> 2 sendto
                              >>> 1 0x7f4f8068
                              >>> 1 0x7f4f8068
                              >>> 1 Perl_hv_fetch_ent
                              >>> 1 Perl_hv_fetch_ent
                              >>> 1 Perl_pp_aassign
                              >>> 1 Perl_sv_setsv_flags
                              >>> 1 Perl_sv_upgrade
                              >>> 1 Perl_sv_upgrade
                              >>> 1 Perl_pp_aelem
                              >>> 1 Perl_pp_aelem
                              >>> 1 Perl_pp_and
                              >>> 1 Perl_pp_and
                              >>> 1 Perl_pp_const
                              >>> 1 Perl_pp_const
                              >>> 1 Perl_pp_method_named
                              >>> 1 S_method_common
                              >>> 1 Perl_hv_fetch_ent
                              >>> 1 Perl_hv_fetch_ent
                              >>> 1 Perl_pp_ne
                              >>> 1 Perl_pp_ne
                              >>> 1 Perl_pp_nextstate
                              >>> 1 Perl_free_tmps
                              >>> 1 Perl_sv_free
                              >>> 1 Perl_sv_clear
                              >>> 1 Perl_hv_undef
                              >>> 1 szone_free
                              >>> 1 szone_free
                              >>> 1 Perl_pp_padsv
                              >>> 1 Perl_pp_padsv
                              >>> 1 Perl_pp_refgen
                              >>> 1 S_refto
                              >>> 1 S_refto
                              >>> 1 Perl_pp_rv2hv
                              >>> 1 Perl_pp_rv2hv
                              >>> 1 Perl_pp_seq
                              >>> 1 Perl_sv_eq
                              >>> 1 Perl_sv_eq
                              >>> 1 Perl_pp_shift
                              >>> 1 Perl_pp_shift
                              >>> 1 Perl_pp_unpack
                              >>> 1 Perl_unpackstring
                              >>> 1 S_unpack_rec
                              >>> 1 Perl_newSV
                              >>> 1 Perl_newSV
                              >>> 1 Perl_pp_unstack
                              >>> 1 Perl_leave_scope
                              >>> 1 Perl_mg_free
                              >>> 1 szone_free
                              >>> 1 szone_free
                              >>> 1 free
                              >>> 1 free
                              >>> 1 Perl_pp_shift
                              >>> 1 Perl_pp_shift
                              >>>
                              >>> Total number in stack (recursive counted multiple, when >=5):
                              >>> 126 S_regmatch
                              >>>
                              >>> Sort by top of stack, same collapsed (when >= 5):
                              >>> select 104
                              >>> Perl_runops_standard 8
                              >>> Perl_hv_fetch_ent 5
                              >>> Sample analysis of process 423 written to file /dev/stdout
                              >>> Sampling process 423 each 10 msecs 300 times

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