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swayzak
2013-09-21, 01:36
Hi

I'm interested in adding in another player - either Duet Receiver or Touch (I have 2 x Booms and 1 x Duet).

Searching at the moment but obviously these are quite expensive & often used items.

Have found a "New-other" Touch for 200 on ebay - would this be a good purchase ?

Didn't Logitech release a replacement product after terminating Squeezebox line that could work with my setup ?


Thanks

toby10
2013-09-21, 02:39
The only thing Logitech released after ending SqueezeBox players was the UE Radio which can be firmware updated to a SqueezeBox player.

garym
2013-09-21, 05:37
Consider a cheap used iTouch running iPeng app as a replacement player. If you need speakers, pair with audioengine 2.0.

jimbobvfr400
2013-09-21, 08:33
Consider a cheap used iTouch running iPeng app as a replacement player. If you need speakers, pair with audioengine 2.0.

Good suggestion, I'll also add the following alternatives for consideration.

* Android device running either SqueezePlayer or SB Player, both available from Google Play Store.
* Raspberry pi , possibly with a USB DAC, running either PiCoPlayer or squeezeplug.
* 2nd hand O2 Joggler, again possibly with a USB DAC

There's also options for running a software player on pretty much any PC, including some nice little Atom based quiet units. I'd suggest either Squeezeplay or Squeezelite as the software player.

Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 4

swayzak
2013-09-21, 09:11
Thanks

Do you think it would be a waste of money to get this Touch for 200 ?

It would be intended as an upgrade to Duet receiver as my main hifi player. I thought the Touch was a higher quality player than Receiver..

garym
2013-09-21, 09:17
Thanks

Do you think it would be a waste of money to get this Touch for 200 ?

It would be intended as an upgrade to Duet receiver as my main hifi player. I thought the Touch was a higher quality player than Receiver..

No. I love the touch. I bought 3 extra ones as backups.

swayzak
2013-09-21, 13:39
No. I love the touch. I bought 3 extra ones as backups.

Thanks

Is the audio quality (analogue) significantly better than Duet ?

I guess my other concern is spending 200 on hardware that relies on discontinued software. If my Win XP/7 computers die then I may not be able to use hardware anymore..

Corelli45
2013-09-21, 14:11
You can run Ipeng with 'playback'on an iPad ,phone or iTouch and it behaves just like a Squeezebox touch.

d6jg
2013-09-21, 14:18
Hardware wise the Touch has a slightly superior DAC to a Duet or SB3.
You can run ipeng in playback mode with good results if linked to a airplay receiver or a good digital dock.

castalla
2013-09-21, 14:35
Thanks

Is the audio quality (analogue) significantly better than Duet ?

I guess my other concern is spending 200 on hardware that relies on discontinued software. If my Win XP/7 computers die then I may not be able to use hardware anymore..

.. then just get a 25 USD Raspberry Pi !!!

garym
2013-09-21, 14:39
Thanks

Is the audio quality (analogue) significantly better than Duet ?

I guess my other concern is spending 200 on hardware that relies on discontinued software. If my Win XP/7 computers die then I may not be able to use hardware anymore..

significantly better? No, not in my experience (although I did replace my duet receiver with the TOUCH in my system). Only hardware is discontinued. Software is open source and can be used "forever" on all sorts of systems (win, mac, linux). Even if windows and OS move forward and won't run, you can create a virtual machine in some future windows computer and run a flavor of linux in that. And besides, we're not really talking about using this stuff for 20 years. just another few (3, 5, 8?) until something totally improved comes along (just as every other technology I've had for the last 50 years!). Obviously, my answer is probably to buy, as I purchased 3 Touch units as spares just in case even though the likelihood is I'll never use any of them.

erland
2013-09-21, 14:45
I guess my other concern is spending 200 on hardware that relies on discontinued software. If my Win XP/7 computers die then I may not be able to use hardware anymore..
If you like the Squeezebox hardware and software, get one and worry about the future when it becomes a problem, currently it isn't a problem and I believe LMS works on Windows 8 (unless I've missed something).

Thanks to third party developers in the community I'm sure the Squeezebox is going to continue to work a long time after Logitech have completely abandoned it and at the moment Logitech is still maintaining the software and services related to the Squeezebox. From an outside perspective, it even looks like they are maintaining Squeezebox software better than the UE Smart Radio software (which are related to hardware products they still sell).

I got a spare Touch fairly soon after Logitech announced that they would stop selling it, mainly because I love it and wanted to ensure I have a backup in case the main one breaks.

castalla
2013-09-21, 14:48
significantly better? No, not in my experience (although I did replace my duet receiver with the TOUCH in my system). Only hardware is discontinued. Software is open source and can be used "forever" on all sorts of systems (win, mac, linux). Even if windows and OS move forward and won't run, you can create a virtual machine in some future windows computer and run a flavor of linux in that. And besides, we're not really talking about using this stuff for 20 years. just another few (3, 5, 8?) until something totally improved comes along (just as every other technology I've had for the last 50 years!). Obviously, my answer is probably to buy, as I purchased 3 Touch units as spares just in case even though the likelihood is I'll never use any of them.

Rather than spending 200 squid - look for a O2 Joggler - makes an excellent Touch replacement for 30-50 GBP.

swayzak
2013-09-21, 15:48
Bollocks - I missed the deadline.

garym
2013-09-21, 15:50
Bollocks - I missed the deadline.

keep looking. I suspect new in box Touch units (or almost new in box) will pop up on a regular basis. think about all those people that bought one of these, hooked it up, it was confusing, put it away in the closet!

jimbobvfr400
2013-09-22, 05:31
Rather than spending 200 squid - look for a O2 Joggler - makes an excellent Touch replacement for 30-50 GBP.

I'd argue a Joggler can be better than a Touch with an appropriate USB DAC. Bigger better screen and easily enough power to run a proper version of LMS on board, either accessing music on a USB drive or on a NAS.

Not for everyone and definitely not plug and play and does require effort to set up but I'd argue for my own needs I have a superior solution for less than a quarter of the price.

Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 4

swayzak
2013-09-22, 23:34
I'd argue a Joggler can be better than a Touch with an appropriate USB DAC. Bigger better screen and easily enough power to run a proper version of LMS on board, either accessing music on a USB drive or on a NAS.

Not for everyone and definitely not plug and play and does require effort to set up but I'd argue for my own needs I have a superior solution for less than a quarter of the price.

Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 4

Interesting. Have many got this running as a squeezebox device ?

swayzak
2013-09-23, 12:50
My God.

Someone just paid $600 for a new Touch I was bidding on at ebay.

Crazy.

garym
2013-09-23, 12:55
My God.

Someone just paid $600 for a new Touch I was bidding on at ebay.

Crazy.

Hey, people were paying those prices for Beanie Babies at one time. ;-)
(but at least one can play music with a Touch....not sure what to do with a beanie baby!

swayzak
2013-09-23, 12:59
I didn't realise they were THAT desirable.

I suppose I should be happy that I bought my 2 Booms & Duet when I did (which all get heavy use every day) !

May still keep an eye out for a Touch though..

swayzak
2013-09-25, 15:50
Got one on ebay. 225 squid used but "flawless".