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wcndave
2013-09-12, 06:59
I have 2 scanned folders that contain FLAC and MP3 files.

I also have a 3rd folder that contains childrens music, childrens audio books, educational materials, christmas songs and various other resources.

I would like to be able to select these to play when I wish, however I don't want them to play when I do random play, which I do a lot (it's a great way to listen to music you'd all but forgotten about..)

Is there any way to be able to to exclude a dir and sub-dirs from random play?

Alternatively, I would look at using browse folders for just these tracks, however browse folders only includes folders that are scanned...

is there another way?

Cheers

Dave

mherger
2013-09-12, 07:10
> Is there any way to be able to to exclude a dir and sub-dirs from random
> play?

Not dirs, but genres: just tag your files appropriately, and you can
easily exclude "kids" etc. from the mix.

> Alternatively, I would look at using browse folders for just these
> tracks, however browse folders only includes folders that are scanned...

No, the "Browse Music Folder" menu even often is used to play things which
have not been scanned yet.

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Michael

erland
2013-09-12, 09:18
Is there any way to be able to to exclude a dir and sub-dirs from random play?

If you are ok with purchasing some third party plugins, you can use Multi Library plugin to define a library for everything in your main LMS library excluding the kids folder.
In addition to this, you need to use SQL PLaylist + Dynamic Playlist plugins instead of Random Mix menu, with the SQL Playlist plugin you can create a "Random songs" playlist which is restricted to the content in the library you have defined in Multi Library plugin.

wcndave
2013-09-12, 11:35
> Is there any way to be able to to exclude a dir and sub-dirs from random
> play?

Not dirs, but genres: just tag your files appropriately, and you can
easily exclude "kids" etc. from the mix.

> Alternatively, I would look at using browse folders for just these
> tracks, however browse folders only includes folders that are scanned...

No, the "Browse Music Folder" menu even often is used to play things which
have not been scanned yet.

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Michael

Ah, so the "select genres to include in mix" is saved and remembered so each time I do random play it will use the same genre selection.

Regarding the folder, I have two scanned folders which are all that appears when I select Music Folder. How do I get other folders to appear in there?

Thanks

Dave

kidstypike
2013-09-12, 11:46
Ah, so the "select genres to include in mix" is saved and remembered so each time I do random play it will use the same genre selection.

Regarding the folder, I have two scanned folders which are all that appears when I select Music Folder. How do I get other folders to appear in there?

Thanks

Dave

One way is to create a folder and add shortcuts to all the folders you want LMS to scan. Point LMS at this folder. do a clear and rescan.

wcndave
2013-09-12, 11:52
Thanks, but I don't understand how that would help - probably just being dense...

I have folders

1. FLAC Music
2. MP3 Music
3. Other Audio

I would like that 1 and 2 are in the library, but that I could browse to 3, in order to manually select the files.

Cheers

callesoroe
2013-09-12, 11:56
I have 2 scanned folders that contain FLAC and MP3 files.

I also have a 3rd folder that contains childrens music, childrens audio books, educational materials, christmas songs and various other resources.

I would like to be able to select these to play when I wish, however I don't want them to play when I do random play, which I do a lot (it's a great way to listen to music you'd all but forgotten about..)

Is there any way to be able to to exclude a dir and sub-dirs from random play?

Alternatively, I would look at using browse folders for just these tracks, however browse folders only includes folders that are scanned...

is there another way?

Cheers

Dave
You could use the mp3tag program to tag your files. And then tag the different genres "childrens music" "education" and so on. Then exclude these in the random mix genre selection.

kidstypike
2013-09-12, 12:04
Thanks, but I don't understand how that would help - probably just being dense...

I have folders

1. FLAC Music
2. MP3 Music
3. Other Audio

I would like that 1 and 2 are in the library, but that I could browse to 3, in order to manually select the files.

Cheers

OK, sorry, don't think you could do this with browse folders, because any folder in 3 that you browse to will be added to your library.
Seems like tags is the best way to go, all my Christmas stuff is in my library, but never gets played using "Random Mix" as the tag "Christmas" is unchecked.

wcndave
2013-09-12, 12:07
Yes, I saw how the first solution could work, however it requires that I remember to tag all my material as it's added.

The second solution suggested seemed a lot easier - however I did not think it could be done. If it can, that would be great!

JJZolx
2013-09-12, 12:53
I have folders

1. FLAC Music
2. MP3 Music
3. Other Audio

I would like that 1 and 2 are in the library, but that I could browse to 3, in order to manually select the files.

You can't really do that. Everything that LMS plays must be in its library. If you exclude 'Other Audio' from your media folders, you won't be able to get to it by browsing the Music Folder.

wcndave
2013-09-12, 12:59
You can't really do that. Everything that LMS plays must be in its library. If you exclude 'Other Audio' from your media folders, you won't be able to get to it by browsing the Music Folder.


Ok, that's what I thought in the first place.

I just tagged all the files in those folders to kids and will exclude that.

I also noticed that as i add files, their genres are not auto added, so a lot of new music has been excluded from random play.

That's the problem with everyone using their own genres, I now have a few hundred...I'd quite like 20 or so!

Mnyb
2013-09-12, 13:12
Ok, that's what I thought in the first place.

I just tagged all the files in those folders to kids and will exclude that.

I also noticed that as i add files, their genres are not auto added, so a lot of new music has been excluded from random play.

That's the problem with everyone using their own genres, I now have a few hundred...I'd quite like 20 or so!

There is no standard you have to set the genre tags yourself just like many other tags .
Sometime the ripping software sugest no genre at all or the commercial file you bought did not have any or ( a pet peeve of mine ) the artist invented some new cool genre :~ .

In general treat the delivered/ripped tags as suggestion and at least spend a minute or 2 when adding stuff to check them .
If you get things from the " Internet " you'd be surprised what some thinks are acceptable tagging :)

JJZolx
2013-09-12, 13:15
That's the problem with everyone using their own genres, I now have a few hundred...I'd quite like 20 or so!

I don't understand why you have to end up with hundreds of genres. If you have a good tagging tool you should be able to easily clean that up.

wcndave
2013-09-12, 22:42
To be honest when i first ripped my collection of ~500 i did not have the energy or patience for tagging, and hoped the tagging of the ripper db would be ok.

Now I've added some itunes, amazon and others, It's getting a bit mad, but I really don't use genres. Hence I did not think of that as a way of hiding holiday and kids music.

What would you recommend as a good tagging tool? I have dbpoweramp for ripping, and mediamonkey for library management.

Thanks, Dave

Mnyb
2013-09-12, 23:24
To be honest when i first ripped my collection of ~500 i did not have the energy or patience for tagging, and hoped the tagging of the ripper db would be ok.

Now I've added some itunes, amazon and others, It's getting a bit mad, but I really don't use genres. Hence I did not think of that as a way of hiding holiday and kids music.

What would you recommend as a good tagging tool? I have dbpoweramp for ripping, and mediamonkey for library management.

Thanks, Dave

Both of these are good , but add mp3tag to that bunch .

Agree that you give up tagging at some level , when it's functional for my purposes . I do intend to take it up more rigurously as a retirement project in the future, beats stamp collecting .

garym
2013-09-13, 03:49
Both of these are good , but add mp3tag to that bunch .

Agree that you give up tagging at some level , when it's functional for my purposes . I do intend to take it up more rigurously as a retirement project in the future, beats stamp collecting .

another + for mp3tag. I too use dbpa for ripping, but find the mp3tag tagging functions easier to use. And one can easily use the "filter", convertand actions menus to automatically do many things (like modifying or adding genres) in a batch, automatic manner. A tiny bit of learning curve, but then very easy and powerful.

p.s. like Mnyb tagging (and modifying/improving my tags) is my lifetime hobby.

dasmueller
2013-09-13, 05:16
Both of these are good , but add mp3tag to that bunch .

Agree that you give up tagging at some level , when it's functional for my purposes . I do intend to take it up more rigurously as a retirement project in the future, beats stamp collecting .

Agreed. Actually I bought my 1st Touch as a retirement gift to myself. Countless hrs ripping and tagging and my library is small compared to some-27.5K. Cleaning up tags is an ongoing process. I was searching for something the other day and saw some things that looked wrong. If I do not have the time to fix such issues on the spot I make some notes and do it later. The better your tags are the smoother everything functions.

Mnyb
2013-09-13, 05:27
p.s. like Mnyb tagging (and modifying/improving my tags) is my lifetime hobby.

Not yet I still have some >20 years of active work career to do first :)

garym
2013-09-13, 06:11
Not yet I still have some >20 years of active work career to do first :)

I have at least 10! (but I'm retagging now so I can retag again at retirement... ;-)
(and I'll ask that a HDD, windows laptop, and mp3tag be included in my casket for later updates)

wcndave
2013-09-15, 08:22
Don't think I am ever going to go through and tag them all, and anyway, i make up different genres based on mood, so when I come up with "80's relaxing classic rock" I don't want to retag everything...

Thanks very much for the help though, since I tagged all the "non music" to something and excluded from random play, that works great.

Thanks!

Dave