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kllngtme
2013-01-25, 08:18
So I have squeezeplay setup, using the latest beta that is out at this time. I'm streaming flacs from my house while I'm at work. I have my headphones on and listening to music.. is it me or is the sound quality garbage? It's like whenever there is bass the squeezeplay can't handle it or something? Anyone notice anything? Is this a known issue? It's like it can't handle a lot going on or something. The sound quality is awful...

garym
2013-01-25, 08:25
So I have squeezeplay setup, using the latest beta that is out at this time. I'm streaming flacs from my house while I'm at work. I have my headphones on and listening to music.. is it me or is the sound quality garbage? It's like whenever there is bass the squeezeplay can't handle it or something? Anyone notice anything? Is this a known issue? It's like it can't handle a lot going on or something. The sound quality is awful...

Something else must be wrong. I use squeezeplay at work listening to FLAC files on my work computer running LMS (computer feeding better speakers than typical) and sound is good. You say you are streaming FLACs from home. I assume this means that the FLACs are being transcoded to mp3 on the home side before coming to you over the internet. What are you settings in LMS for bitrate limiting. Might be set for -v9 or something (making very low bitrate mp3 files). Change bitrate limiting setting to -V2 or -V3 and should be much better.

kllngtme
2013-01-25, 09:22
uhhh.. I dunno, i didn't set anything up to transcode to mp3's. I thought it was literally streaming flacs. Where do I check everything for this on LMS?

maggior
2013-01-25, 09:37
If you look at the now playing screen on the web page of the server, it will have an inication that the FLAC and been transcoded to mp3. Also, if you look at the properties of the file from the now playing screen on the web page, it will show it is being transcoded.

kllngtme
2013-01-25, 09:53
hmmm.. I really don't see anything that says it's transcoding. I'm on the now playing page of the webpage for LMS, it just has the tracknumber, title, artist and volume and how long the song is playing for. From clicking on the song title it brings me to the song info in which it says..

File Format: FLAC
Bitrate: 801kbps VBR
Sample Rate: 44.1khz
Sample Size: 16bits

I mean I guess the bitrate being so much means its transcoded to mp3? It still doesn't make much sense or mean that it's being transcoded, it just means that it's reading it at 801kbps, no? I dunno...

maggior
2013-01-25, 10:19
It's not being transcoded. If it was, you would see something in the bit rate indicating it was transcoded. You might also see something in the file format information.

Are you sure you have the bandwidth to support playing FLAC over the internet? You need to have enough bandwidth on both the server and client side. I always transcoded until I upgraded to cable from DSL.

OK, I just tried it out myself. When you click on the song title and see the song info on the left hand side, it will say something like this if it is being converted:
Bitrate 930kbps VBR (Converted to 320kbps MP3)

kllngtme
2013-01-25, 10:24
Oh yea, I certainly have the bandwidth. I have a 25Mbps connection at my house and a 200Mbps connection at work. I can stream HD video files over the internet from my Plex server with no issues.

Come to think of it, I just downloaded a flac from my house, playing it locally does the same thing. Apparently this laptops soundcard sucks ass! Whenever there's bass it makes the sound quality sound like shit.

I thought it wasn't transcoding.. I was going to say, I'm gunna get pissed if it's transcoding and i didn't even know it. I'm due for a new laptop anyways, it must be the soundcard that's doing it, I just noticed it once I put on my headphones. damn it.. shitty laptop.

aubuti
2013-01-25, 10:42
Crummy laptop soundcards are hardly surprising. The new one may not be better unless you specifically look for one with a good soundcard. Either way, if you're going to be listening a lot through good headphones you may want to consider bypassing the soundcard entirely with a USB DAC. There are tons of them around now, many quite reasonably priced, such as this one: http://audioengineusa.com/Store/Audioengine-D1#.UQLCuGGFy6M

castalla
2013-01-25, 11:03
Oh yea, I certainly have the bandwidth. I have a 25Mbps connection at my house and a 200Mbps connection at work. I can stream HD video files over the internet from my Plex server with no issues.

Come to think of it, I just downloaded a flac from my house, playing it locally does the same thing. Apparently this laptops soundcard sucks ass! Whenever there's bass it makes the sound quality sound like shit.

I thought it wasn't transcoding.. I was going to say, I'm gunna get pissed if it's transcoding and i didn't even know it. I'm due for a new laptop anyways, it must be the soundcard that's doing it, I just noticed it once I put on my headphones. damn it.. shitty laptop.

What an exquisitely articulate way to describe poor sound quality ...

kllngtme
2013-01-25, 11:11
What an exquisitely articulate way to describe poor sound quality ...

Come on, this is a forum, I'm not writing a college thesis here.

For the most part, to describe what's happening, it's almost as if the soundcard can't handle the bass. Whenever there's a bassy part to a song the other parts diminish, the volume, the treble, everything to the song gets drowned out. That's really the only want to describe it, it has horrible quality during that time. Adjusting the volume doesn't really seem to matter, it's like the sound card can't handle certain frequencies.

Oh well, atleast I found the culprit. I'm not gunna buy a usb dac just for work. I already spent money on one for my house, I'll wait to see how the new laptop is with the sound quality before I make that decision. Thanks for the suggestion though, I love audioengine's stuff!

JJZolx
2013-01-25, 12:56
Oh well, atleast I found the culprit. I'm not gunna buy a usb dac just for work.

There are some pretty inexpensive USB DACs available that should improve on your laptop's sound quality. If it sounds even half as bad as you've described, it would be well worth it.

maggior
2013-01-25, 13:01
Could also be compression that is going on in the data path. Is there a control panel app for your soundcard? Some of them will do horrible things to "enhance" the sound by default that do nothing but muddy up the sound. I seem to recall creative doing this at one point with their sound cards. Good news is you've narrowed the problem down.

Otherwise, yes, an outboard USB dac with a build in headphone amp would serve you well.

ReValveiT
2013-01-27, 15:19
Is the sound just as bad through other media players, Windows Media Player, for example?

I highly doubt it's Squeezeplay causing the problem.

d6jg
2013-01-31, 14:11
If not a USB DAC then even some relatively cheap USB Speakers will give you better sound quality. Or as you want to use headphones you might like to consider one of the Topping amps - there is one that is a DAC and headphone amp. Not sure but think its the TP30

Mnyb
2013-02-02, 10:09
It migth suffice with an external headphone amp , but I think some of the USB DAC headphone amps are cheaper ( just avoid nuforce ) .

The problem could be the headphones impedance maybe the circuits in the laptop could not drive your phones but perfectly well be used as a line level source .