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eschurr
2012-08-31, 14:10
Is there a limit or a setting to the number of songs that can be loaded into a playlist? i have an iTunes playlist with 3,500 songs and when i try to play it SB only loads the first 500.

the name of the playlist in the SB player says0" <playlist name> (modified)" where did the (modified) come from?

i've been doing this for years and don't recall ever hitting this kind of limit, and i can't find a setting to control it.

??

aubuti
2012-08-31, 14:31
It has been there for quite some time now, probably since 7.6.0. You can change the limit using the LMS web interface. I think it's under Settings > Advanced > Performance. It was introduced to avoid the problems of LMS completely locking up when loading large playlists, especially on underpowered servers.

jo-wie
2012-08-31, 14:31
Translated from German system: Settings -> Extended -> Pull Down "Performance"

Edit: Ah OK, I've to translate "Erweitert" to "Advanced". Aubuti was faster :)

mrw
2012-08-31, 14:33
The setting control is under the "Advanced' settings tab in the "Performance" section. Item "Maximum Playlist Length".

eschurr
2012-08-31, 15:09
The setting control is under the "Advanced' settings tab in the "Performance" section. Item "Maximum Playlist Length".

found it! many thanks -- love this forum!

Mnyb
2012-08-31, 22:02
It has been there for quite some time now, probably since 7.6.0. You can change the limit using the LMS web interface. I think it's under Settings > Advanced > Performance. It was introduced to avoid the problems of LMS completely locking up when loading large playlists, especially on underpowered servers.

Yep my own ballpark figure is that the system can tolerate ~2000 files per Ghz of x86 CPU core .
But beware of the shuffle function with very large playlist it can bog down the server .
Problems seems exponential to the playlist size .

Also it gets worse if the database is in bad shape , so to periodically perform full clear and rescans also helps this case .

It is good that it has a limit I once encountered a bug that made the server try cue up every file in the dB , it stopped at my 4000 track limit :)

cncb
2012-09-28, 10:38
So, what happens with the limit if you are doing a shuffle play with a playlist longer than 500 tracks? Does it always use the first 500 tracks? For example, if I have shuffle mode enabled and play a certain genre that let's say has 1000 tracks will it always select the first 500 tracks and shuffle them and you will never hear a track in the second half of 500 tracks?

Mnyb
2012-09-28, 11:44
So, what happens with the limit if you are doing a shuffle play with a playlist longer than 500 tracks? Does it always use the first 500 tracks? For example, if I have shuffle mode enabled and play a certain genre that let's say has 1000 tracks will it always select the first 500 tracks and shuffle them and you will never hear a track in the second half of 500 tracks?

Yes .

MelonMonkey
2012-10-02, 08:54
Wow, the lowly ARM-CPU-powered empeg car stereo maintained playlists longer than 30k tracks easily, shuffling, reshuffling, changing track order, adding tracks, removing tracks, all without skipping a beat. There seems to be some serious inefficiency and possible underdevelopment with SB's playlist feature.

azinck3
2012-10-02, 09:26
Wow, the lowly ARM-CPU-powered empeg car stereo maintained playlists longer than 30k tracks easily, shuffling, reshuffling, changing track order, adding tracks, removing tracks, all without skipping a beat. There seems to be some serious inefficiency and possible underdevelopment with SB's playlist feature.

There might be good reasons for LMS's apparent inefficiencies, or there might not be good reasons. It's hard to compare since LMS's feature set is quite different from that of the empeg. That said, on a reasonably speedy server you can certainly load far more than 500 items. As aubuti mentioned, you can bump up the limit to suit your hardware.

cparker
2012-10-02, 10:37
Wow, the lowly ARM-CPU-powered empeg car stereo maintained playlists longer than 30k tracks easily, shuffling, reshuffling, changing track order, adding tracks, removing tracks, all without skipping a beat. There seems to be some serious inefficiency and possible underdevelopment with SB's playlist feature.

To be fair, its not quite the same thing to hold a massive text list (I'm guessing?), vs LMS which is loading up album art for each track, so a few thousand album art pics will swallow the memory.

Why dont you use Random Mix or similar?