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Rod Savard
2004-10-29, 15:28
Why does the Squeezebox make you hold the brightness key? Why not just do
the firmware upgrade without prompting?

-Rod

Bruce Tucker
2004-10-29, 19:47
Firmware shouldn't be upgraded over a wireless network. Automatic upgrades
wouldn't allow you to wire it directly to your PC or hub before the upgrade
was started. Perhaps there could be an 'out of date firmware' notice given,
along with a 'help' button that leads you to a description and instruction
page.
Bruce
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rod Savard" <rodney (AT) savard (DOT) org>
To: "Slim Discussion" <discuss (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com>
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 3:28 PM
Subject: [slim] Why not automatic firmware upgrades?


> Why does the Squeezebox make you hold the brightness key? Why not just do
> the firmware upgrade without prompting?
>
> -Rod
>
>
>

Pat Farrell
2004-10-29, 20:13
At 06:28 PM 10/29/2004, Rod Savard wrote:
>Why does the Squeezebox make you hold the brightness key? Why not just do
>the firmware upgrade without prompting?

I'm just a happy user, not an official of Slim or the developers....

Its a general security thing. It could do it automatically, but
the idea is to make the user do something, anything at all,
to indicate that he/she wants the upload to happen.

In general, having one computer stuff executable code down
another computer's input wire is a bad idea. Too easy for
worms, virus, trojans, etc. to spread that way. And while no
one will admit it, the thing inside a SlimDevices box is
a computer.

Pat


Pat Farrell pfarrell (AT) pfarrell (DOT) com
http://www.pfarrell.com

Jeffrey Gordon
2004-10-30, 06:47
I have had my Squeezebox for almost a year now, and get the latest
nightly everyday, and perform every firmware update via WIRELESS. I
have not once had an issue, I can understand that doing the firmware
update via wired is safer, but if you have a reliable wireless network
it is not exactly "super risky". Course I also stream FLAC over my
wireless without any issue caused by the wireless connection.

I am not saying they should perform auto updates, that is just bad
practice as already stated, just curious how many other people to
firmware updates via wireless?

Bruce Tucker wrote:

> Firmware shouldn't be upgraded over a wireless network. Automatic
> upgrades wouldn't allow you to wire it directly to your PC or hub
> before the upgrade was started. Perhaps there could be an 'out of
> date firmware' notice given, along with a 'help' button that leads you
> to a description and instruction page.
> Bruce
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rod Savard" <rodney (AT) savard (DOT) org>
> To: "Slim Discussion" <discuss (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com>
> Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 3:28 PM
> Subject: [slim] Why not automatic firmware upgrades?
>
>
>> Why does the Squeezebox make you hold the brightness key? Why not
>> just do
>> the firmware upgrade without prompting?
>>
>> -Rod
>>
>>
>>

Peter Speck
2004-10-30, 08:31
On 30/10-2004, at 15:47, Jeffrey Gordon wrote:

> I am not saying they should perform auto updates, that is just bad
> practice as already stated, just curious how many other people to
> firmware updates via wireless?

I've done allmost all of mine too.

If upgrading over wireless isn't safe, why should wired be safe? Wired
networks can fail too. Both needs validating the downloaded firmware in
the SB before committing it to flash ram.

----
- Peter Speck

David Jameson
2004-10-30, 16:13
So did a virus before the first one ever happened!
D


"Rod Savard" <rodney (AT) savard (DOT) org> wrote in
message news:200410300532.i9U5Wvjl030659 (AT) spike (DOT) scm-ae.com...
>> Its a general security thing.
>
> Heh... I see your point but a virus delivered via a firmware update on a
> Squeezebox seems highly unlikely!
>
> -Rod