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dpotts
2012-03-25, 10:33
Not sure where to post this, so I'm posting it here. In the past day or so, I've noticed that the music programming on Internet radio station TSF Jazz (Paris) has changed, and that it no longer corresponds to the programming as announced on that station's website or that you hear on that website's Flash player.

Moreover, if I go to tunein.com, RadioTime's website, TSF Jazz there shows the "correct" playlist and plays the correct songs. But the TuneIn app at MySqueezebox.com nevertheless plays the wrong stuff on "TSF Jazz."

I've tried putting the tunein.com url for TSF Jazz directly into "Tune in URL" in Squeezebox, and it doesn't work. It displays the right image and station name, but nothing plays, and after about ten seconds the timer goes to 0.

I notice that the station ID is the same for both the opml.radiotime.com url and the tunein.com url.

I really have no idea what to do or where to inquire. Any ideas?

JJZolx
2012-03-25, 10:55
I just did a radio search in the web interface for 'tsf' and a list of stations appeared, including 'TSF Jazz'. It played fine. The URL it appears to use is

http://streaming207.radionomy.com/Air-Jazz?group=999

dpotts
2012-03-25, 12:14
I just did a radio search in the web interface for 'tsf' and a list of stations appeared, including 'TSF Jazz'. It played fine. The URL it appears to use is

http://streaming207.radionomy.com/Air-Jazz?group=999

Yes, it plays, but it's not the right songs! This is the same programming as I am now getting with my radiotime url. The url I get by doing the same search is

http://opml.radiotime.com/Tune.ashx?id=s16492&formats=aac,ogg,mp3,wmpro,wma,wmvoice&partnerId=16&serial=3d6c6aa37ac2b00138e0978c234ebd59

(The stream is unaffected by removing everything after id=s16492&.)

Interesting that you have radionomy, and I have radiotime. I wonder why?

Anyway, this is the new, "interloper" TSF Jazz, not the programming presented at TSFjazz.com or on the TSF Jazz radio stream at tunein.com, which is what Squeezebox used to play until a day or two ago.

If the "interloper" programming were as good as the "real" programming, I guess I wouldn't care too much. But it isn't.

I wish my French were better. Then I might be able to identify what's going on by listening to the announcements on the new stream. They don't seem to announce themselves as TSF Jazz. I keep hearing the phrase "jazz and soul," but that's all I've come up with so far.

dpotts
2012-03-25, 12:33
OK, the station coming in as TSF Jazz is Air Jazz & Soul Radio ("Le nouveau souffle du Jazz and Soul"). Their website is http://air-jazz.kazeo.com/. You can listen to them at tunein.com at http://tunein.com/radio/Air-Jazz--Soul-Radio-s134977/. Note the different station ID from TSF Jazz (which is s16492).

Air Jazz & Soul is also on the Squeezebox (with station ID s134977). It plays the same program as Squeezebox plays for "TSF Jazz" (with station ID s16492).

So it appears that Air Jazz and Soul has "hijacked" TSF Jazz's stream! But only for Squeezebox. How could this happen? And how can it be fixed?

garym
2012-03-25, 13:05
OK, the station coming in as TSF Jazz is Air Jazz & Soul Radio ("Le nouveau souffle du Jazz and Soul"). Their website is http://air-jazz.kazeo.com/. You can listen to them at tunein.com at http://tunein.com/radio/Air-Jazz--Soul-Radio-s134977/. Note the different station ID from TSF Jazz (which is s16492).

Air Jazz & Soul is also on the Squeezebox (with station ID s134977). It plays the same program as Squeezebox plays for "TSF Jazz" (with station ID s16492).

So it appears that Air Jazz and Soul has "hijacked" TSF Jazz's stream! But only for Squeezebox. How could this happen? And how can it be fixed?

hmmm, I've had the following saved as a favorite for tsf jazz for a long time and it still works properly.
http://opml.radiotime.com/Tune.ashx?id=s16492&partnerId=16

garym
2012-03-25, 13:09
hmmm, I've had the following saved as a favorite for tsf jazz for a long time and it still works properly.
http://opml.radiotime.com/Tune.ashx?id=s16492&partnerId=16

oops, i heard the french and just assumed....you're right, the above is no longer TSF JAzz!!!!

garym
2012-03-25, 13:14
try saving this as your favorite. Seems to work.

http://broadcast.infomaniak.net/tsfjazz-high.mp3

dpotts
2012-03-25, 13:26
try saving this as your favorite. Seems to work.

http://broadcast.infomaniak.net/tsfjazz-high.mp3

That's the stuff! Thanks. How did you find this link?

garym
2012-03-25, 13:39
That's the stuff! Thanks. How did you find this link?

It was a link I'd been using in my foobar2000 PC player and just happened to check it. Must have found it sometime in the past. But being curious, I tried to figure out where I found it. So just now I went to:

http://www.tsfjazz.com/accueil.php

left side of page below large letters listing programme, etc. is a little ECOUTER TSF with picture of old fashion speaker. So I clicked on this. then "autre players", then a popup comes up with one of the options being winamp/vlc/itunes. Clicking on this link, I opened it in foobar2000, then copied the link. You can probably just right click on that link, then save in SB favorites. Does seem a bit different from my link, but it does work too.

dpotts
2012-03-25, 14:35
It was a link I'd been using in my foobar2000 PC player and just happened to check it. Must have found it sometime in the past. But being curious, I tried to figure out where I found it. So just now I went to:

http://www.tsfjazz.com/accueil.php

left side of page below large letters listing programme, etc. is a little ECOUTER TSF with picture of old fashion speaker. So I clicked on this. then "autre players", then a popup comes up with one of the options being winamp/vlc/itunes. Clicking on this link, I opened it in foobar2000, then copied the link. You can probably just right click on that link, then save in SB favorites. Does seem a bit different from my link, but it does work too.

I was able to repeat everything you describe here (only using VLC instead of foobar2000). As you say, the url isn't the same as what you suggested earlier. And when I copy the new url into the Squeezebox web interface "Tune in URL" window, it gets converted to something else again (http://tsfjazz.ice.infomaniak.ch/tsfjazz-high).

All these alternates are good to have, but I still wonder what could be going on with the Squeezebox RadioTime url. And I have no idea where to report the error, or I would do so. I suppose it will eventually get noticed by the right people and corrected.

toby10
2012-03-26, 03:25
... I have no idea where to report the error, or I would do so.....

Email TuneIn.com (this is RadioTime).


......
Interesting that you have radionomy, and I have radiotime. I wonder why?....

A station can be listed in multiple sources if they choose to be. If you install both TuneIn and Radionomy apps, then use the Global Search function on the Home menu, that station will appear under both apps.

dpotts
2012-03-26, 18:22
A station can be listed in multiple sources if they choose to be. If you install both TuneIn and Radionomy apps, then use the Global Search function on the Home menu, that station will appear under both apps.

I must admit I didn't realize there was more than one service for providing LMS with lists of Internet radio stations. This has prompted me to take a closer look at the apps gallery on MySqueezebox.com. :)