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pski
2012-03-03, 17:56
could be a cheap player given a hard connection

simbo
2012-03-05, 12:57
...or a basic LMS

autopilot
2012-03-07, 16:00
Can't wait to see what people do with this. I'm most interested in building a cheap NAS/server.

gharris999
2012-03-09, 10:23
I don't know (or understand) anything about the Pi's specs. But I'm intrigued with the possibility of turning one into a low-cost squeezebox clone running squeezeslave. And what about the audiophile possibilities? Could you route the audio on the hdmi port to spdif into a good dac? Would there be a cheaper way to do it than this:

http://www.startech.com/AV/Converters/Video/HDMI-to-DVI-D-with-SPDIF-Audio-Converter~HDMI2DVI

?

simbo
2012-03-12, 09:33
For those interested, a thread to keep an eye on...

http://www.raspberrypi.org/forum/projects-and-collaboration-general/squeeze-player-on-the-raspberry-pi

bluegaspode
2012-03-12, 09:55
For those interested, a thread to keep an eye on...

http://www.raspberrypi.org/forum/projects-and-collaboration-general/squeeze-player-on-the-raspberry-pi

This thread is pretty confusing ;)

As I see it:
SqueezeSlave is open-sourced, C based and also runs on ARM.
Actually it already runs on the SheevaPlug, which is essentially a Rasperry Pi on Steorids (more CPU, more RAM).
Shouldn't be a problem to make it run on Rasperry Pi.

I also think that soon people will try to run Android on the Rasperry Pi. If that works, als the known App for playback can be downloaded to the Pi.

bonze
2012-03-12, 10:01
Interesting, so with a raspberry & hacked Squeezeplayer they could avoid buying any hardware??

I'm surprised Logitech still allow this to happen....

Golden Goose anyone?

bluegaspode
2012-03-12, 10:18
I don't think that Rasperri Pis are a great threat to real hardware.
It's a great extension to the existing ecosystem and makes Squeezeboxes even more desirable.

gharris999
2012-03-12, 10:22
Interesting, so with a raspberry & hacked Squeezeplayer they could avoid buying any hardware??

I'm surprised Logitech still allow this to happen....

Golden Goose anyone?
As far as I know, Logitech has no control over squeezeslave, other than indirect control. I.e., they could change the streaming protocol without telling anyone, close the source to the SqueezePlay firmware, close the source to LMS and make everything proprietary.

But, just to reassure any Logitech minions lurking here, I just bought my 2nd Transporter! I'm doing my part to validate the business model!!! RasPi + squeezeslave would be a hobby project, nothing more!

simbo
2012-03-12, 10:37
Interesting, so with a raspberry & hacked Squeezeplayer they could avoid buying any hardware??

I'm surprised Logitech still allow this to happen....

Golden Goose anyone?
I don't think Logitech need to fear. There have been SB-alikes around for a long time, from Softsqueeze to hacked (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78759) Jogglers (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=64373). Some of them make great casual or hobby players, but none have the reliability or simplicity of dedicated hardware. In fact I think the SB ecosystem benefits from having them available.

pski
2012-03-12, 15:16
I don't think Logitech need to fear. There have been SB-alikes around for a long time, from Softsqueeze to hacked (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78759) Jogglers (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=64373). Some of them make great casual or hobby players, but none have the reliability or simplicity of dedicated hardware. In fact I think the SB ecosystem benefits from having them available.

I could be wrong (and it wouldn't be the first time) but I think SoftSqueeze started in SlimDevices and was later curbed by Logitech.

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pski
2012-03-12, 15:28
This thread is pretty confusing ;)

As I see it:
SqueezeSlave is open-sourced, C based and also runs on ARM.
Actually it already runs on the SheevaPlug, which is essentially a Rasperry Pi on Steorids (more CPU, more RAM).
Shouldn't be a problem to make it run on Rasperry Pi.

I also think that soon people will try to run Android on the Rasperry Pi. If that works, als the known App for playback can be downloaded to the Pi.

Android-pi: interesting idea but at this point the phone OS ecosystem has exploded in terms of main memory and storage. The RasPi is deficient but let's remember this prolly isn't a v0.8 release.

My question would be: What would I gain from Android-pi vs a stripped-down distro (like VortexBox?) If all it's going to do is play, the only two parameters are convenience and cost.

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pski
2012-03-12, 15:41
Can't wait to see what people do with this. I'm most interested in building a cheap NAS/server.

My Buffalo NAS are ARM w/256 as far as I know. I only use them for NAS, however.

The problem with RasPi as a NAS processor at this point is the speed of the USB <if it is USB 2.0>

The gigabit in my Buffalo generally do a little over a gigabyte per minute to the dual core 2006 heaters on my network.

If you RasPi'ed using USB 2.0 disks you might not like doing anything with larger files. Of course, streaming could be copasetic. Of course, it could take a long time while you are sleeping as well.

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bpa
2012-03-12, 15:42
I could be wrong (and it wouldn't be the first time) but I think SoftSqueeze started in SlimDevices and was later curbed by Logitech.

P

IIRC Softsqueeze was written by Richard Titmuss when he was an ordinary user. He was later "employed" by Slimdevices and Softsqueeze was adopted by Slimdevices and bundled with Slimserver although not sure which came first.

When Squeezeplay was developed, Softsqueeze was effectively replaced and so Logitech stopped "supporting" it and so it became community supported. I think "curbed" is too strong - its functionality has not been changed.

pski
2012-03-12, 15:47
IIRC Softsqueeze was written by Richard Titmuss when he was an ordinary user. He was later "employed" by Slimdevices and Softsqueeze was adopted by Slimdevices and bundled with Slimserver although not sure which came first.

When Squeezeplay was developed, Softsqueeze was effectively replaced and so Logitech stopped "supporting" it and so it became community supported. I think "curbed" is too strong - its functionality has not been changed.

Thanks for the info. I started just as the Duet was released <but not shipped>

I've always loved Softsqueeze for two reasons: remote install is easy over the phone and <before the Touch and Radio> exactly emulates my hardware.

Despite all the complaints about software players, I've never had an issue with sync.

Paul