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James Dunn
2004-10-25, 15:13
Graham,

I'm surprised by the Keg comments but I guess I have never used it.
However, the PhatNoise player in my car is very well controlled:

It has audible announcements and the 6 numeric buttons become
resume playing
select artist
select album
select playlist
select genre
Scan becomes
announce track details (whereupon it reads, track name, artist, album, genre
for the current track.

Searching for something becomes easy and, when driving, very easy as you
don't have to look at a screen to see what you are selecting.

The disks sure are expensive though! They are meant to have extended
environmental specs though.

Cheers,

James

-----Original Message-----
From: discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com
[mailto:discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com] On Behalf Of Graham Ridgway
at home
Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 10:41 PM
To: Slim Devices Discussion
Subject: Re: [slim] An in-car "Squeezebox"

yep, you are prob right about the PC. The whole start/stop thing would be
quite difficult. However, the controls for the keg are rubbish. All you
can do is next or prev playlist. So the way I use it is to stick 20 or so
albums on it and play them in sequence. Not very imaginative!

Graham
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jason" <jason (AT) pagefamily (DOT) net>
To: "'Slim Devices Discussion'" <discuss (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com>
Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 12:42 AM
Subject: [slim] An in-car "Squeezebox"


> If you are used to the Keg, which uses your headunit to navigate, powers
> on
> and resumes playing at the last point in a track, etc, I think that you
> are
> going to find the whole "PC in a car" thing rather tiring, tedious and
> frustrating.
>
> I had an old NEO MP35 in my car before buying my Phatbox and the
> limitations
> on the NEO were enough to drive me over the edge, I can't even imagine
> putting up with a PC in the car.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com
> [mailto:discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com] On Behalf Of Graham Ridgway
> at home
> Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2004 3:33 PM
> To: Slim Devices Discussion
> Subject: [slim] An in-car "Squeezebox"
>
> Looks interesting.
>
> I guess the blessing of 'we are ok with this' would be good so it's not
> viewed as competetive (a la Roku!).
>
> I am def interested if a small batch run is possible.
>
> How does it work in terms of running the PC? Is it on all the time
> (running
> the batt down), or does it shut down and start up?
>
> Graham
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Richard Purdie" <rpurdie (AT) rpsys (DOT) net>
> To: "Slim Devices Discussion" <discuss (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com>
> Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2004 10:11 PM
> Subject: [slim] An in-car "Squeezebox"
>
>
>> Graham Ridgway:
>>>I am a phatnoise aka kenwood musickeg user. I like the concept, but
>>>unless you have a high end kenwood head unit (and I don't know even then)
>>>you get zero facilities. You can basically only build playlists on the
>>>PC
>
>>>and in the car only scroll through them sequentially. Also the big
>>>phatnoise hard disk units cost a small fortune and I object to not being
>>>able to just bung a bigger disk in!
>>
>> I wanted to use "standard" components where I could (both in hardware and
>> software) and for that reason it runs as a standard PC with an IDE
>> harddisk running SlimServer. With the amount of effort that's gone into
>> SlimServer, I think it makes a good base, even if some tweaks might be
>> needed for in car use (I haven't made any yet and I'm not sure I
>> personally need to).
>>
>>> I would be very interested in a unit that put a slimdevice-alike in the
>>> car esp if it came with the blessing of the nice guys at slim devices.
>>
>> I should make it clear that the device is independent of Slim Devices and
>> as such will not be supported by them. For that reason, I'm not sure they
>> would give it their blessing as such.
>>
>>> How do I go about making one Richard??
>>
>> At the very least you'll need a parts kits as whilst some of the bits are
>> "off the shelf", the case and three PCBs are custom designed and built. I
>> could publish the details but they're not buildable by a hobbyist so I'm
>> reluctant to do that. If I get enough requests, a parts kit or a small
>> batch run would be the way forward...
>>
>> --
>> RP
>> http://www.rpsys.net/myc3/
>>
>>

Graham Ridgway at home
2004-10-26, 13:15
I think we are way OT now, but the best my kenwood head unit can do is
next/prev playlist. Not the select stuff. It does have announcements tho!
Graham
----- Original Message -----
From: "James Dunn" <james.dunn (AT) hedgehog-house (DOT) co.uk>
To: "Slim Devices Discussion" <discuss (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com>
Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 11:13 PM
Subject: [slim] An in-car "Squeezebox"


> Graham,
>
> I'm surprised by the Keg comments but I guess I have never used it.
> However, the PhatNoise player in my car is very well controlled:
>
> It has audible announcements and the 6 numeric buttons become
> resume playing
> select artist
> select album
> select playlist
> select genre
> Scan becomes
> announce track details (whereupon it reads, track name, artist, album,
> genre
> for the current track.
>
> Searching for something becomes easy and, when driving, very easy as you
> don't have to look at a screen to see what you are selecting.
>
> The disks sure are expensive though! They are meant to have extended
> environmental specs though.
>
> Cheers,
>
> James
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com
> [mailto:discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com] On Behalf Of Graham
> Ridgway
> at home
> Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 10:41 PM
> To: Slim Devices Discussion
> Subject: [slim] An in-car "Squeezebox"
>
> yep, you are prob right about the PC. The whole start/stop thing would be
> quite difficult. However, the controls for the keg are rubbish. All you
> can do is next or prev playlist. So the way I use it is to stick 20 or so
> albums on it and play them in sequence. Not very imaginative!
>
> Graham
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jason" <jason (AT) pagefamily (DOT) net>
> To: "'Slim Devices Discussion'" <discuss (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com>
> Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 12:42 AM
> Subject: [slim] An in-car "Squeezebox"
>
>
>> If you are used to the Keg, which uses your headunit to navigate, powers
>> on
>> and resumes playing at the last point in a track, etc, I think that you
>> are
>> going to find the whole "PC in a car" thing rather tiring, tedious and
>> frustrating.
>>
>> I had an old NEO MP35 in my car before buying my Phatbox and the
>> limitations
>> on the NEO were enough to drive me over the edge, I can't even imagine
>> putting up with a PC in the car.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com
>> [mailto:discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com] On Behalf Of Graham
>> Ridgway
>> at home
>> Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2004 3:33 PM
>> To: Slim Devices Discussion
>> Subject: [slim] An in-car "Squeezebox"
>>
>> Looks interesting.
>>
>> I guess the blessing of 'we are ok with this' would be good so it's not
>> viewed as competetive (a la Roku!).
>>
>> I am def interested if a small batch run is possible.
>>
>> How does it work in terms of running the PC? Is it on all the time
>> (running
>> the batt down), or does it shut down and start up?
>>
>> Graham
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Richard Purdie" <rpurdie (AT) rpsys (DOT) net>
>> To: "Slim Devices Discussion" <discuss (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2004 10:11 PM
>> Subject: [slim] An in-car "Squeezebox"
>>
>>
>>> Graham Ridgway:
>>>>I am a phatnoise aka kenwood musickeg user. I like the concept, but
>>>>unless you have a high end kenwood head unit (and I don't know even
>>>>then)
>>>>you get zero facilities. You can basically only build playlists on the
>>>>PC
>>
>>>>and in the car only scroll through them sequentially. Also the big
>>>>phatnoise hard disk units cost a small fortune and I object to not being
>>>>able to just bung a bigger disk in!
>>>
>>> I wanted to use "standard" components where I could (both in hardware
>>> and
>>> software) and for that reason it runs as a standard PC with an IDE
>>> harddisk running SlimServer. With the amount of effort that's gone into
>>> SlimServer, I think it makes a good base, even if some tweaks might be
>>> needed for in car use (I haven't made any yet and I'm not sure I
>>> personally need to).
>>>
>>>> I would be very interested in a unit that put a slimdevice-alike in the
>>>> car esp if it came with the blessing of the nice guys at slim devices.
>>>
>>> I should make it clear that the device is independent of Slim Devices
>>> and
>>> as such will not be supported by them. For that reason, I'm not sure
>>> they
>>> would give it their blessing as such.
>>>
>>>> How do I go about making one Richard??
>>>
>>> At the very least you'll need a parts kits as whilst some of the bits
>>> are
>>> "off the shelf", the case and three PCBs are custom designed and built.
>>> I
>>> could publish the details but they're not buildable by a hobbyist so I'm
>>> reluctant to do that. If I get enough requests, a parts kit or a small
>>> batch run would be the way forward...
>>>
>>> --
>>> RP
>>> http://www.rpsys.net/myc3/
>>>
>>>