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Jason
2004-10-24, 16:42
If you are used to the Keg, which uses your headunit to navigate, powers on
and resumes playing at the last point in a track, etc, I think that you are
going to find the whole "PC in a car" thing rather tiring, tedious and
frustrating.

I had an old NEO MP35 in my car before buying my Phatbox and the limitations
on the NEO were enough to drive me over the edge, I can't even imagine
putting up with a PC in the car.

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com] On Behalf Of Graham Ridgway
at home
Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2004 3:33 PM
To: Slim Devices Discussion
Subject: [slim] An in-car "Squeezebox"

Looks interesting.

I guess the blessing of 'we are ok with this' would be good so it's not
viewed as competetive (a la Roku!).

I am def interested if a small batch run is possible.

How does it work in terms of running the PC? Is it on all the time (running
the batt down), or does it shut down and start up?

Graham
----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Purdie" <rpurdie (AT) rpsys (DOT) net>
To: "Slim Devices Discussion" <discuss (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2004 10:11 PM
Subject: [slim] An in-car "Squeezebox"


> Graham Ridgway:
>>I am a phatnoise aka kenwood musickeg user. I like the concept, but
>>unless you have a high end kenwood head unit (and I don't know even then)
>>you get zero facilities. You can basically only build playlists on the PC

>>and in the car only scroll through them sequentially. Also the big
>>phatnoise hard disk units cost a small fortune and I object to not being
>>able to just bung a bigger disk in!
>
> I wanted to use "standard" components where I could (both in hardware and
> software) and for that reason it runs as a standard PC with an IDE
> harddisk running SlimServer. With the amount of effort that's gone into
> SlimServer, I think it makes a good base, even if some tweaks might be
> needed for in car use (I haven't made any yet and I'm not sure I
> personally need to).
>
>> I would be very interested in a unit that put a slimdevice-alike in the
>> car esp if it came with the blessing of the nice guys at slim devices.
>
> I should make it clear that the device is independent of Slim Devices and
> as such will not be supported by them. For that reason, I'm not sure they
> would give it their blessing as such.
>
>> How do I go about making one Richard??
>
> At the very least you'll need a parts kits as whilst some of the bits are
> "off the shelf", the case and three PCBs are custom designed and built. I
> could publish the details but they're not buildable by a hobbyist so I'm
> reluctant to do that. If I get enough requests, a parts kit or a small
> batch run would be the way forward...
>
> --
> RP
> http://www.rpsys.net/myc3/
>
>

Steven Moore
2004-10-25, 00:38
Has this not been already done?

http://www.apple.com/uk/ipod/accessories.html

Steven Moore


On 25 Oct 2004, at 12:42 am, Jason wrote:

> If you are used to the Keg, which uses your headunit to navigate,
> powers on
> and resumes playing at the last point in a track, etc, I think that
> you are
> going to find the whole "PC in a car" thing rather tiring, tedious and
> frustrating.
>
> I had an old NEO MP35 in my car before buying my Phatbox and the
> limitations
> on the NEO were enough to drive me over the edge, I can't even imagine
> putting up with a PC in the car.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com
> [mailto:discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com] On Behalf Of Graham
> Ridgway
> at home
> Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2004 3:33 PM
> To: Slim Devices Discussion
> Subject: [slim] An in-car "Squeezebox"
>
> Looks interesting.
>
> I guess the blessing of 'we are ok with this' would be good so it's not
> viewed as competetive (a la Roku!).
>
> I am def interested if a small batch run is possible.
>
> How does it work in terms of running the PC? Is it on all the time
> (running
> the batt down), or does it shut down and start up?
>
> Graham
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Richard Purdie" <rpurdie (AT) rpsys (DOT) net>
> To: "Slim Devices Discussion" <discuss (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com>
> Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2004 10:11 PM
> Subject: [slim] An in-car "Squeezebox"
>
>
>> Graham Ridgway:
>>> I am a phatnoise aka kenwood musickeg user. I like the concept, but
>>> unless you have a high end kenwood head unit (and I don't know even
>>> then)
>>> you get zero facilities. You can basically only build playlists on
>>> the PC
>
>>> and in the car only scroll through them sequentially. Also the big
>>> phatnoise hard disk units cost a small fortune and I object to not
>>> being
>>> able to just bung a bigger disk in!
>>
>> I wanted to use "standard" components where I could (both in hardware
>> and
>> software) and for that reason it runs as a standard PC with an IDE
>> harddisk running SlimServer. With the amount of effort that's gone
>> into
>> SlimServer, I think it makes a good base, even if some tweaks might be
>> needed for in car use (I haven't made any yet and I'm not sure I
>> personally need to).
>>
>>> I would be very interested in a unit that put a slimdevice-alike in
>>> the
>>> car esp if it came with the blessing of the nice guys at slim
>>> devices.
>>
>> I should make it clear that the device is independent of Slim Devices
>> and
>> as such will not be supported by them. For that reason, I'm not sure
>> they
>> would give it their blessing as such.
>>
>>> How do I go about making one Richard??
>>
>> At the very least you'll need a parts kits as whilst some of the bits
>> are
>> "off the shelf", the case and three PCBs are custom designed and
>> built. I
>> could publish the details but they're not buildable by a hobbyist so
>> I'm
>> reluctant to do that. If I get enough requests, a parts kit or a small
>> batch run would be the way forward...
>>
>> --
>> RP
>> http://www.rpsys.net/myc3/
>>
>>

Jack Coates
2004-10-25, 09:41
> Has this not been already done?
>
> http://www.apple.com/uk/ipod/accessories.html
>
> Steven Moore
>

iPods run Slimserver now? Wow, I had no idea!

:)

I see what you're saying, and this is in fact what I do -- I use an iRiver
iHP-120 and a iRock FM transmitter. However, I use that setup because I
travel a lot and it's important to be able to move from rental car to
rental car.

For my personal car, I'd prefer a more integrated solution. The ideal is a
car stereo that sits in the driveway/garage and rsyncs over wifi to your
home music store. This is a step in that direction.

--
Jack At Monkeynoodle.Org: It's A Scientific Venture...
"Believe what you're told; there'd be chaos if everyone thought for
themselves." -- Top Dog hotdog stand, Berkeley, CA

Graham Ridgway at home
2004-10-25, 14:41
yep, you are prob right about the PC. The whole start/stop thing would be
quite difficult. However, the controls for the keg are rubbish. All you
can do is next or prev playlist. So the way I use it is to stick 20 or so
albums on it and play them in sequence. Not very imaginative!

Graham
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jason" <jason (AT) pagefamily (DOT) net>
To: "'Slim Devices Discussion'" <discuss (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com>
Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 12:42 AM
Subject: [slim] An in-car "Squeezebox"


> If you are used to the Keg, which uses your headunit to navigate, powers
> on
> and resumes playing at the last point in a track, etc, I think that you
> are
> going to find the whole "PC in a car" thing rather tiring, tedious and
> frustrating.
>
> I had an old NEO MP35 in my car before buying my Phatbox and the
> limitations
> on the NEO were enough to drive me over the edge, I can't even imagine
> putting up with a PC in the car.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com
> [mailto:discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com] On Behalf Of Graham Ridgway
> at home
> Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2004 3:33 PM
> To: Slim Devices Discussion
> Subject: [slim] An in-car "Squeezebox"
>
> Looks interesting.
>
> I guess the blessing of 'we are ok with this' would be good so it's not
> viewed as competetive (a la Roku!).
>
> I am def interested if a small batch run is possible.
>
> How does it work in terms of running the PC? Is it on all the time
> (running
> the batt down), or does it shut down and start up?
>
> Graham
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Richard Purdie" <rpurdie (AT) rpsys (DOT) net>
> To: "Slim Devices Discussion" <discuss (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com>
> Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2004 10:11 PM
> Subject: [slim] An in-car "Squeezebox"
>
>
>> Graham Ridgway:
>>>I am a phatnoise aka kenwood musickeg user. I like the concept, but
>>>unless you have a high end kenwood head unit (and I don't know even then)
>>>you get zero facilities. You can basically only build playlists on the
>>>PC
>
>>>and in the car only scroll through them sequentially. Also the big
>>>phatnoise hard disk units cost a small fortune and I object to not being
>>>able to just bung a bigger disk in!
>>
>> I wanted to use "standard" components where I could (both in hardware and
>> software) and for that reason it runs as a standard PC with an IDE
>> harddisk running SlimServer. With the amount of effort that's gone into
>> SlimServer, I think it makes a good base, even if some tweaks might be
>> needed for in car use (I haven't made any yet and I'm not sure I
>> personally need to).
>>
>>> I would be very interested in a unit that put a slimdevice-alike in the
>>> car esp if it came with the blessing of the nice guys at slim devices.
>>
>> I should make it clear that the device is independent of Slim Devices and
>> as such will not be supported by them. For that reason, I'm not sure they
>> would give it their blessing as such.
>>
>>> How do I go about making one Richard??
>>
>> At the very least you'll need a parts kits as whilst some of the bits are
>> "off the shelf", the case and three PCBs are custom designed and built. I
>> could publish the details but they're not buildable by a hobbyist so I'm
>> reluctant to do that. If I get enough requests, a parts kit or a small
>> batch run would be the way forward...
>>
>> --
>> RP
>> http://www.rpsys.net/myc3/
>>
>>