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jmx
2012-02-23, 07:46
I have a SB3, but now I want to be able to play hi-res tracks (24/96 and up).

Do I need an outboard DAC to get the benefits of 24/96 on the SB3?

If so, I'll then have to decide between a DAC or a SB Touch. Or both!

thanks!

jmx

Soulkeeper
2012-02-23, 07:51
The SB3's DAC can do max 24/48, and I suspect this also applies to the digital out. SC/SBS/LMS will transparently transcode 24/96 files to 24/48 via SoX when playing them on your SB3.

So if you want "the benefits of 24/96", you'll probably need a Touch, with or without a DAC.

That being said, will you be able to hear the difference between a 24/96 track, and the same track properly downsampled to 24/48? Whether that is humanly possible, is disputed. AFAIU, nobody has yet been able to do so in a double blind test.

Anyway, it's probably more cost effective to spend the money on speaker upgrades, or room treatment.

pski
2012-02-23, 08:16
The SB3's DAC can do max 24/48, and I suspect this also applies to the digital out. SC/SBS/LMS will transparently transcode 24/96 files to 24/48 via SoX when playing them on your SB3.

So if you want "the benefits of 24/96", you'll probably need a Touch, with or without a DAC.

That being said, will you be able to hear the difference between a 24/96 track, and the same track properly downsampled to 24/48? Whether that is humanly possible, is disputed. AFAIU, nobody has yet been able to do so in a double blind test.

Anyway, it's probably more cost effective to spend the money on speaker upgrades, or room treatment.

+++

jmx
2012-02-23, 09:13
The SB3's DAC can do max 24/48, and I suspect this also applies to the digital out. SC/SBS/LMS will transparently transcode 24/96 files to 24/48 via SoX when playing them on your SB3.

So if you want "the benefits of 24/96", you'll probably need a Touch, with or without a DAC.

That being said, will you be able to hear the difference between a 24/96 track, and the same track properly downsampled to 24/48? Whether that is humanly possible, is disputed. AFAIU, nobody has yet been able to do so in a double blind test.

Anyway, it's probably more cost effective to spend the money on speaker upgrades, or room treatment.

I'm starting to catch on.

So with the SBTouch, LMS won't need to transcode 24/96, but will transcode anything above that (eg. 24/192).

Does SoX need a lot of mem or CPU? I have a 2GB Win7 dell zino as my server.

I'm interested in seeing if I can tell the diff between a downsampled 24/96 and one that is decoded natively.

The bottom line is this: will 24/96 content sound better on a SBT or a SB3?

fwiw, speakers are on the way

Thanks for the info!
- jmx

Phil Leigh
2012-02-23, 09:33
I'm starting to catch on.

So with the SBTouch, LMS won't need to transcode 24/96, but will transcode anything above that (eg. 24/192).

Does SoX need a lot of mem or CPU? I have a 2GB Win7 dell zino as my server.

I'm interested in seeing if I can tell the diff between a downsampled 24/96 and one that is decoded natively.

The bottom line is this: will 24/96 content sound better on a SBT or a SB3?

fwiw, speakers are on the way

Thanks for the info!
- jmx

Your computer will be fine for SOX. Just try playing a 24/96 track right now - it should handle it automatically unless you've done any silly "fiddling" with LMS File Type settings...

All content sounds better on a Touch than the SB3 (a bit better - not life-changing!)
+++++ What Soulkeeper said.

jmx
2012-02-23, 10:10
Is there any way to tell LMS to not downsample a rate that is not natively supported by the SBT (or SB3), and have the player send the stream to an outboard DAC that does support it?

rayman1701
2012-02-23, 10:30
No. From what I understand it all has to go thru the chip whether it's then sent analog out or digital out.

jmx
2012-02-23, 11:57
excellent info - thanks!

That means a SBT is in my near future and my first HDTracks purchase will probably be ... Layla (24/96).

Or Let It Bleed, Running on Empty, Beggar's Banquet, SRV + Albert King : In Session, Live at the Fillmore East, Rumors .....