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corycwagner
2012-01-22, 11:43
Hi. I've been a fan of squeezebox for a long time. I started buying the original Slimp3. I also own a Radio, a Boom and a Squeezebox2 and Squeezebox "classic."
Now that the Transporter SE is out and has fallen in my price range, I'm very tempted to purchase it.
The AVR I'm using is a Yamaha RX-A3010. I have my Squeezebox "classic" (v3) hooked up to it via the coaxial output.

Please excuse this naive question:
Am I gaining anything (other than looks and a better power supply) by upgrading to a transporter. As I understand it, the main advantage of the transporter is the DAC. If my receiver does not have balanced audio input, and, instead I used the optical or coaxial outputs, I would bypass the DAC and not get any of the sound enhancements of the Transporter. Am I correct?

I really like the look of the Transporter, but if I don't gain any advantage in sound quality, then I guess purchasing one is foolish.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Cory

garym
2012-01-22, 12:08
Hi. I've been a fan of squeezebox for a long time. I started buying the original Slimp3. I also own a Radio, a Boom and a Squeezebox2 and Squeezebox "classic."
Now that the Transporter SE is out and has fallen in my price range, I'm very tempted to purchase it.
The AVR I'm using is a Yamaha RX-A3010. I have my Squeezebox "classic" (v3) hooked up to it via the coaxial output.

Please excuse this naive question:
Am I gaining anything (other than looks and a better power supply) by upgrading to a transporter. As I understand it, the main advantage of the transporter is the DAC. If my receiver does not have balanced audio input, and, instead I used the optical or coaxial outputs, I would bypass the DAC and not get any of the sound enhancements of the Transporter. Am I correct?

I really like the look of the Transporter, but if I don't gain any advantage in sound quality, then I guess purchasing one is foolish.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Cory

I like my transporter. But if you are not using the DAC, I wouldn't purchase. Get a touch instead.

SuperQ
2012-01-22, 12:13
You don't need balanced input on the Yamaha in order to take advantage of the DAC in the Transporter. It also has a normal pair of analog RCA connectors.

garym
2012-01-22, 12:47
You don't need balanced input on the Yamaha in order to take advantage of the DAC in the Transporter. It also has a normal pair of analog RCA connectors.

Does the Yamaha receiver have analog in that truly bypasses the Yamaha DAC (vs converting analog in to digital then running through the Yamaha DAC?

Mnyb
2012-01-22, 14:25
Does the Yamaha receiver have analog in that truly bypasses the Yamaha DAC (vs converting analog in to digital then running through the Yamaha DAC?

i think this functions is getting very unusual these days even in top of line recievers , recievers are meant to feed digital signals , the analog in is for legacy stuff vcr and tape decks .

A read many reciever manuals, a decade ago analog bypass was mentioned, but today there are for example pure direct modes, but no real explanation to what it is and manuals are very vague on the subject I think deliberatly vague.

And almost everything is in the dsp, so if you use the sub for music , digital input is what you should use even if you had analog bypass , if you used some room eq function likevise.

vett93
2012-01-22, 14:35
I have an original Transporter in my main system and a SB3 in my bedroom system. IMO, I would get an integrated amp (or even better a preamp and an amp) first. I had tried a few AVRs but decided to go with analog amp approach.

BTW, what is the difference between the new Transporter SE and the original Transporter?

Mnyb
2012-01-22, 14:38
I have an original Transporter in my main system and a SB3 in my bedroom system. IMO, I would get an integrated amp (or even better a preamp and an amp) first. I had tried a few AVRs but decided to go with analog amp approach.

BTW, what is the difference between the new Transporter SE and the original Transporter?

The special transnav knob is missing in the SE, they apearently had a lot of parts but no knobs, so they decided to clear it out but at a lower price.
And you can only get one in the us afaik.

pski
2012-01-22, 15:11
Hi. I've been a fan of squeezebox for a long time. I started buying the original Slimp3. I also own a Radio, a Boom and a Squeezebox2 and Squeezebox "classic."
Now that the Transporter SE is out and has fallen in my price range, I'm very tempted to purchase it.
The AVR I'm using is a Yamaha RX-A3010. I have my Squeezebox "classic" (v3) hooked up to it via the coaxial output.

Please excuse this naive question:
Am I gaining anything (other than looks and a better power supply) by upgrading to a transporter. As I understand it, the main advantage of the transporter is the DAC. If my receiver does not have balanced audio input, and, instead I used the optical or coaxial outputs, I would bypass the DAC and not get any of the sound enhancements of the Transporter. Am I correct?

I really like the look of the Transporter, but if I don't gain any advantage in sound quality, then I guess purchasing one is foolish.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Cory

If you have one: OK

If you don't: NO

New speakers perhaps?

Recoveryone
2012-01-22, 15:39
I pick one up a few months ago, and really needed to sale it (due to a car problems), but since that issue has been dwelt with. I have been very happy with the Transporter. I have mine connected toslink (direct sound no processing) to my Pioneer Elite VSX 81TX and I can tell the difference when playing MP3's rip at 320Kps or WAV files that are coverted into Flac @ 700Kbs. The enhancements may be small but noticable. I have 3 other classic's and have had them connected analog and digital and there is a big difference with the Classic, digital sounds much better IMHO.

corycwagner
2012-01-22, 15:48
I like my transporter. But if you are not using the DAC, I wouldn't purchase. Get a touch instead.

I thought about a Touch, but honestly, I really like the display on the "Classic" and Transporter. I can read the display from across the room and when it is off, it displays the time and weather.

I've heard that the touch dispaly is problematic from a distance and the SuperDateTime does not work very well.

Have I heard wrong?

garym
2012-01-22, 16:10
I thought about a Touch, but honestly, I really like the display on the "Classic" and Transporter. I can read the display from across the room and when it is off, it displays the time and weather.

I've heard that the touch dispaly is problematic from a distance and the SuperDateTime does not work very well.

Have I heard wrong?

not sure about superdatetime, but your point about display is well taken. A lot of money for a larger display. find an SB3 on ebay or something instead. Of all my many players, there is only ONE that I can even see the display, and even it is not visible from my listening position (athough the TOUCH does have a regular and "large" display, and the large display I can see artist and title from 12 feet away with no issue). and my transporter is buried in a cabinet. I do like the visibility of ipad (running either squeezepad or ipengHD) or iphone with ipeng, or squeezeplay on my laptop.....

edit: I lied. I have booms at bedside at two locations. So I can easily see those of course....

aubuti
2012-01-22, 22:56
I thought about a Touch, but honestly, I really like the display on the "Classic" and Transporter. I can read the display from across the room and when it is off, it displays the time and weather.

I've heard that the touch dispaly is problematic from a distance and the SuperDateTime does not work very well.

Have I heard wrong?
SuperDateTime works fine with the Touch as long as you use it with Custom Clock.

Whether you can read the Touch from across the room depends on (a) how good your eyes are, and (b) how big your room is. I find that reading the Touch is fine up to about 10 feet/3 meters, whereas the SB3/Classic is good up to around 15 feet/5m.

Soulkeeper
2012-01-23, 04:48
You can use the Touch as a transport, while keeping your Classic for the display. Simply set up the Classic to control the Touch (if possible, and if that's not possible, sync it with the Touch).

So the music will come from the Touch, while the Classic will display what's playing just like it always has.

Recoveryone
2012-01-28, 00:11
I just wanted to share a bit for those that feel the urge to make the leap to a Transporter:

http://youtu.be/hxwYXVsrjFw

Sorry for the low res, but the youtube police cut the sound on the Hi res verison as soon as it loaded up.