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KNUTE
2004-10-13, 14:12
Much thanks again, Sean...OK, maybe we're getting a little closer to solving this.
First, if by "Client" you mean those people (their computers & Players) outside my home who wish to hear my stream, then their Players are only the normal, common ones like Media Player, iTunes & WinAmp.
It's not reasonable & often not possible to tell someone that if they want to hear my SlimServer stream that they first must download & setup SoftSqueeze&Java or anything else. I had enough trouble just trying to get someone to get WinAmp.
But they all have Media Player or iTunes, & those Players SHOULD be sufficient (I hope).

By 'wrong speed' I mean that the song from it's very beginning, onwards, plays extremely fast OR extremely slow, like a 33 playing at 78rpm or a 78 playing at 33rpm.
This ONLY happens when the songs are received through my stream; all these MP3s play perfectly in any Player if not streamed.

Yes, the MP3s all have widely varying qualities, but as for Sample Rates, specifically, they are nearly all 44,100Hz, a few 22,050Hz, and NO others.
I just checked a large number of files that I had removed from my Library because they are prone to mis-play. Every single one of them is 44,100Hz, so that's not the prob.

(Re the other variables such as bit rate, channels, etc.: Please see details in my first post
"[slim] SlimServer - Still having problems with stream playback speed. Help please.").

Now, as for "my transcoding setup" - you lost me there :) But here's what I can think of.
I think everything is still set up as it defaulted when I first installed Slim 5.3.1. I did drop LAME in, so that more file types "could" be used. I have placed some WAV & AIFF files into my Library just to try them out. However, they played no better, often at ultra-slow playback, and why put such huge files in the Library anyway, when compressed will do? So I removed all but MP3s.

One more thing, based on your earlier question about clients, today I opened SlimServer & then opened SoftSqueeze (both just sitting there, not streaming music to myself). Just a stab in the dark, but can SoftSqueeze (on MY PC, the "server") somehow help others to receive my stream? (If you've the time, tell me how to send you my URLs and maybe you can spot the problem by receiving my stream. If you have the time & tolerance, thanks very much!)
Knute

kdf
2004-10-13, 14:20
Quoting KNUTE <knute-m (AT) cox (DOT) net>:

> Much thanks again, Sean...OK, maybe we're getting a little closer to solving
> this.
> First, if by "Client" you mean those people (their computers & Players)
> outside my home who wish to hear my stream, then their Players are only the
> normal, common ones like Media Player, iTunes & WinAmp.
> It's not reasonable & often not possible to tell someone that if they want to
> hear my SlimServer stream that they first must download & setup
> SoftSqueeze&Java or anything else. I had enough trouble just trying to get
> someone to get WinAmp.
> But they all have Media Player or iTunes, & those Players SHOULD be
> sufficient (I hope).

1) download Java "J2SE v 1.4.2_06 JRE" here:
http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.2/download.html

2) install Java JRE.

3) load in your browser: http://serverIP:9000/

4) click on help, click on 'softsqueeze'

5) click on the pretty picture of softsqueeze.

6) click ok/yes a few times

enjoy.

the only thing you are left with, is the task of lowering the bitrate limit to
suit each persons connection or how much bandwidth you want going out.

of course, if what you really want is a radio station ppl can log in to, then
you might be better off running winamp yourself, addign the shoutcast plugin
and letting everyone connect to that.

-kdf

seanadams
2004-10-13, 14:56
Knute,

I'd like to test with a hardware squeezebox just to nail down whether
the problem is on the playback side or the serving side. This isn't an
issue that's come up before so I don't really know what's going on. If
you send me your IP I'll give it a try.

Sean

On Oct 13, 2004, at 2:12 PM, KNUTE wrote:

> Much thanks again, Sean...OK, maybe we're getting a little closer to
> solving this.
> First, if by "Client" you mean those people (their computers &
> Players) outside my home who wish to hear my stream, then their
> Players are only the normal, common ones like Media Player, iTunes &
> WinAmp.
> It's not reasonable & often not possible to tell someone that if they
> want to hear my SlimServer stream that they first must download &
> setup SoftSqueeze&Java or anything else. I had enough trouble just
> trying to get someone to get WinAmp.
> But they all have Media Player or iTunes, & those Players SHOULD be
> sufficient (I hope).
>
> By 'wrong speed' I mean that the song from it's very beginning,
> onwards, plays extremely fast OR extremely slow, like a 33 playing at
> 78rpm or a 78 playing at 33rpm.
> This ONLY happens when the songs are received through my stream; all
> these MP3s play perfectly in any Player if not streamed.
>
> Yes, the MP3s all have widely varying qualities, but as for Sample
> Rates, specifically, they are nearly all 44,100Hz, a few 22,050Hz, and
> NO others.
> I just checked a large number of files that I had removed from my
> Library because they are prone to mis-play. Every single one of them
> is 44,100Hz, so that's not the prob.
>
> (Re the other variables such as bit rate, channels, etc.: Please see
> details in my first post
> "[slim] SlimServer - Still having problems with stream playback speed.
> Help please.").
>
> Now, as for "my transcoding setup" - you lost me there :) But here's
> what I can think of.
> I think everything is still set up as it defaulted when I first
> installed Slim 5.3.1. I did drop LAME in, so that more file types
> "could" be used. I have placed some WAV & AIFF files into my Library
> just to try them out. However, they played no better, often at
> ultra-slow playback, and why put such huge files in the Library
> anyway, when compressed will do? So I removed all but MP3s.
>
> One more thing, based on your earlier question about clients, today I
> opened SlimServer & then opened SoftSqueeze (both just sitting there,
> not streaming music to myself). Just a stab in the dark, but can
> SoftSqueeze (on MY PC, the "server") somehow help others to receive my
> stream? (If you've the time, tell me how to send you my URLs and
> maybe you can spot the problem by receiving my stream. If you have
> the time & tolerance, thanks very much!)
> Knute
>