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Anthony Webb
2004-10-13, 11:00
Or the gateway connected dvd player does all that, plus wireless network,
and a built in dvd player for $100... Still no VOB support though....


>From: Jason Rimmer <jrimmer (AT) irth (DOT) net>
>Reply-To: Slim Devices Discussion <discuss (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com>
>To: Slim Devices Discussion <discuss (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com>
>Subject: [slim] What about DVDs?
>Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 13:32:57 -0400
>
> What you're describing is exactly what D-Link's DSM-320 does,
>http://dlink.com/products/?sec=1&pid=318. I played around with it for a
>few days but returned it as it required Windows for the server application
>and the interface was a bit clunky (though I understand it's since been
>updated). It does everything it claims to do as I listened to MP3s,
>watched both WMV and DivX movies, viewed pictures, etc. It even has
>component video and digital audio outs.
> I picked it up at Best Buy for ~$180
>
>Michael Alletto wrote:
>>I'd just like to stream mpeg video files through my network to my tv
>>without having to install a PC down where my tv is. TV shows, videos,
>>or any other mpeg video file. I would like to have a directory of
>>files on a linux or windows server, the device would know that my
>>video files are there and have a tv interface to let me scroll through
>>the contents of the directory. It would read the encoded titles or
>>just display the filename. I would push play on the remote and it
>>would start streaming to the box to decode them play on the tv. From
>>there it would just work as a vcr. I can't tell you how many times
>>I've missed a tv show only get stuck having to watch it later on my
>>pc. Would be nice to be able to stream it to the tv.
>>
>>Obviously without a video output the squeezebox can't do this (doubt
>>it even has the processing power). Maybe in a few versions?
>>
>>
>>On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 09:47:58 -0600, Anthony Webb <ievolve (AT) hotmail (DOT) com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>Agreed that you will need a boatload of storage to store raw dvd files.
>>>Dvd
>>>quality on a "shrunk" iso is extremely good, but remember, dvd shrink can
>>>rip without any compression too. Products like dvd decrypter are nice
>>>for
>>>that stuff too.
>>>
>>>Products that play divx stuff are very abundant and inexpensive. Anyone
>>>who
>>>has actually made a divx movie will know that this is not a real option.
>>>Many hours of encoding may or may not even generate a file that is
>>>acceptable. DVD shrink can rip a dvd in like 30 min.
>>>
>>>When I share a directory on my computer and play even a large vob file I
>>>have not problem with qos at all. Undoubtedly if you were on something
>>>other than a lan it likely wouldnt work. But a 100 lan is sufficient
>>>bandwidth.
>>>
>>>
>>>>From: "Jason" <jason (AT) pagefamily (DOT) net>
>>>>Reply-To: Slim Devices Discussion <discuss (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com>
>>>>To: "'Slim Devices Discussion'" <discuss (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com>
>>>>Subject: [slim] What about DVDs?
>>>>Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 09:13:05 -0600
>>>
>>>
>>>>DVD Shrink is great if you are watching movies on a smaller screen or
>>>>are
>>>>not bothered by picture quality being degraded. I have a pretty nice
>>>>51"
>>>>TV
>>>>and any degredation in the picture would be totally unaccepteable. This
>>>>means that each DVD title in my library would take up 7GB, requiring me
>>>>to
>>>>invest in storage for something like 500GB of movies.
>>>>
>>>>Additionally streaming full quality DVD over a network is going to be
>>>>hit
>>>>or
>>>>miss at best, considering the large bitrate needed. Ideally some form
>>>>of
>>>>QoS would be used on the network to ensure the movie playback was given
>>>>higher priority over less important traffic. Typical home setups don't
>>>>have
>>>>QoS capabilities of any kind.
>>>>
>>>>I guess what I'm driving at here is that the appeal for DVD playback
>>>>through
>>>>a device like the Squeezebox is certainly there for the "geek elite" but
>>>>for
>>>>joe consumer it would be too much headache, too much storage, and too
>>>>many
>>>>potential problems to really make it an attractive option.
>>>>
>>>>Putting a DVD in the player is certainly a better option for many home
>>>>theater enthusiasts.
>>>>
>>>>-J
>>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com
>>>>[mailto:discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com] On Behalf Of Anthony Webb
>>>>Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 9:33 PM
>>>>To: discuss (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com
>>>>Subject: [slim] What about DVDs?
>>>>
>>>>DVD Shrink is a free product for the pc that does the same thing. How
>>>>sweet
>>>>it would be to call your whole collection up from the network. Wonder
>>>>why
>>>>no one has started beating down this path? I have tried mythtv, freevo,
>>>>and
>>>>the like. Problem is that who really want to bothand interface a pc to
>>>>their tv, a set top box like the squeezebox would be VERY ideal. Heck,
>>>>even
>>>>an inteface to slim server and my music right from the tv interface
>>>>would
>>>>be
>>>>way cool too!
>>>>
>>>>My guess is that this type of a product is right around the corner,
>>>>hopefully it comes from someone who believes in the open source stuff
>>>>like
>>>>slim does... Anyone have an idea what it would take hardware wise to do
>>>>something like this? Slim has the audio licked, what would need to be
>>>>included for video processing? Am I dreaming to big?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>From: Jonathan Greene <atmasphere (AT) atmasphere (DOT) net>
>>>>>Reply-To: Slim Devices Discussion <discuss (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com>
>>>>>To: Slim Devices Discussion <discuss (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com>
>>>>>Subject: [slim] What about DVDs?
>>>>>Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 21:42:47 -0400
>>>>>
>>>>>There's a free app for Mac which does full backups of DVDs and so far
>>>>>it's still available from legit sources like MacUpdate. It's called
>>>>>MacTheRipper and totally works. I've used it a bit and you can even
>>>>>open the .vob directory from within the Apple DVD player. It'd be
>>>>>slick to call up movies from a network drive and have your whole
>>>>>library
>>>>
>>>>just there...
>>>>
>>>>>not too far from Slim, but for video
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>On Oct 12, 2004, at 9:40 PM, Dan Sully wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>* Jonathan Greene <atmasphere (AT) atmasphere (DOT) net> shaped the electrons to
>>>>>>say...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Don't believe it's vapor... though someone else wrote that part (big
>>>>>>>surprise, right?)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>http://www.up.org/cinemasix/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Ah, my mistake. A beta product from a 3rd party, that will only play
>>>>>>unencrypted VOBs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Hey, on the plus side, at least there's source code.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>-D
>>>>>>--
>>>>>>"A good messenger expects to get shot." --Larry Wall
>>>>>>