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David Jameson
2004-10-12, 16:51
Now that I've got 4 of these SqueezeBoxes up and running in my house and
eliminated my CD changer, I'd like to do the same thing for my DVD
collection.....is SlimDevices going to come out with a box that will stream
video from a Linux server? If not, is there anything else out there that
will?

Thanks,
David Jameson

--
_______

kdf
2004-10-12, 16:54
Quoting David Jameson <david (AT) digiportal (DOT) com>:

> Now that I've got 4 of these SqueezeBoxes up and running in my house and
> eliminated my CD changer, I'd like to do the same thing for my DVD
> collection.....is SlimDevices going to come out with a box that will stream
> video from a Linux server? If not, is there anything else out there that
> will?

1) Sean Adams has stated at least a couple times that SlimDevices does not
comment on an future hardware plans.

2) try google.

-kdf

P McDowell
2004-10-13, 01:36
"David Jameson" <david (AT) digiportal (DOT) com> wrote in
message news:ckhqld$4as$1 (AT) sea (DOT) gmane.org...
> Now that I've got 4 of these SqueezeBoxes up and running in my house and
> eliminated my CD changer, I'd like to do the same thing for my DVD
> collection.....is SlimDevices going to come out with a box that will
> stream video from a Linux server? If not, is there anything else out there
> that will?
>
> Thanks,
> David Jameson
>
> --
> _______

There is the Hauppauge MediaMVP
http://www.hauppauge.com/pages/products/data_mediamvp.html the Prismiq Media
player, the D-
link DSM 320 etc
The MVP is the only one I know of that works with mythtv or similar on
linux. It runs embedded linux itself

Stuart
2004-10-13, 02:58
> Now that I've got 4 of these SqueezeBoxes up and running in my house and
> eliminated my CD changer, I'd like to do the same thing for my DVD
> collection.....is SlimDevices going to come out with a box that will stream
> video from a Linux server? If not, is there anything else out there that
> will?


An XBox with http://www.xboxmediacenter.de/ installed.
I can browse my network with it, and it plays just about anything.

It's Cheap, and you get a free games console too :)

Stuart.

Jon Danforth
2004-10-13, 05:38
The best product to do something like this that I've seen is the
Kalidescape DVD server system. It's about $35k to get started in that
though. Let me know, I can hook you up with a deal.

-Jon

David Jameson wrote:

>Now that I've got 4 of these SqueezeBoxes up and running in my house and
>eliminated my CD changer, I'd like to do the same thing for my DVD
>collection.....is SlimDevices going to come out with a box that will stream
>video from a Linux server? If not, is there anything else out there that
>will?
>
>Thanks,
>David Jameson
>
>
>

--
Jonathan Danforth Photography
http://photographs.danforthsource.com

seanadams
2004-10-13, 05:47
On Oct 13, 2004, at 5:38 AM, Jon Danforth wrote:

> The best product to do something like this that I've seen is the
> Kalidescape DVD server system. It's about $35k to get started in that
> though. Let me know, I can hook you up with a deal.

If you can get me $30K off, I'd be very interested. :)

David Jameson
2004-10-13, 17:16
Wow - quite a response - yes, I knew about the Hauppauge player but wasn't
sure how good it was or if I could really use it with Linux.

On the other hand, I've had so much success with the hardware boxes from
SlimDevices that I hate to take my business elsewhere.

D



"P McDowell" <pmcdowell (AT) paradise (DOT) net.nz> wrote in
message news:ckipdo$2hb$1 (AT) sea (DOT) gmane.org...
>
> "David Jameson" <david (AT) digiportal (DOT) com> wrote in
> message news:ckhqld$4as$1 (AT) sea (DOT) gmane.org...
>> Now that I've got 4 of these SqueezeBoxes up and running in my house and
>> eliminated my CD changer, I'd like to do the same thing for my DVD
>> collection.....is SlimDevices going to come out with a box that will
>> stream video from a Linux server? If not, is there anything else out
>> there that will?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> David Jameson
>>
>> --
>> _______
>
> There is the Hauppauge MediaMVP
> http://www.hauppauge.com/pages/products/data_mediamvp.html the Prismiq
> Media player, the D-
> link DSM 320 etc
> The MVP is the only one I know of that works with mythtv or similar on
> linux. It runs embedded linux itself

Jeff Fila
2004-10-18, 07:59
Being a hardware reviewer who's passion is networked media devices
like the Squeezebox, I'm always looking for such products.

Aside from your own home-built PC-based solution, there really aren't
many (or any) options for playing VOBs. To this list it sounds like a
great idea but to the average consumer, its just too much work and too
confusing for companies to spend money on developing such a product
right now.

The Gateway Connected DVD player does a good job of playing video -
but not VOBs. It does a great job of playing MPEG2 video and is only
hampered by the limitations of the wireless network. This device is
built by GoVideo and they have some good products in this department.

ROKU is a non-factor here as are the other video products I have seen.
I have reviewed the Actiontec Wireless Media Player and am now working
on the On3 by FIA (which both use the same OS/front end) and media
playback is limited and buggy.

In speaking to developers and the president of ReQuest Multimedia
recently, they all told me that basically since there are no easy/good
ways of obtaining DVDs over the net, and that the process of ripping
is too hard for the average consumer - not to mention viewed as
illegal by the MPAA - that manufacturers won't make a push for it for
quite a while.

I've been searching for quite a while for a project for a linux distro
that can turn PC hardware into a set-top-box for audio, pictures, and
movies but there really isn't anything good around. MythTV and
KnoppMyth - the live CD based on it are OK but still need a lot of
work IMO.

Jeff Fila
www.designtechnica.com


On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 20:16:36 -0400, David Jameson <david (AT) digiportal (DOT) com> wrote:
> Wow - quite a response - yes, I knew about the Hauppauge player but wasn't
> sure how good it was or if I could really use it with Linux.
>
> On the other hand, I've had so much success with the hardware boxes from
> SlimDevices that I hate to take my business elsewhere.
>
> D
>
> "P McDowell" <pmcdowell (AT) paradise (DOT) net.nz> wrote in
> message news:ckipdo$2hb$1 (AT) sea (DOT) gmane.org...
>
>
> >
> > "David Jameson" <david (AT) digiportal (DOT) com> wrote in
> > message news:ckhqld$4as$1 (AT) sea (DOT) gmane.org...
> >> Now that I've got 4 of these SqueezeBoxes up and running in my house and
> >> eliminated my CD changer, I'd like to do the same thing for my DVD
> >> collection.....is SlimDevices going to come out with a box that will
> >> stream video from a Linux server? If not, is there anything else out
> >> there that will?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> David Jameson
> >>
> >> --
> >> _______
> >
> > There is the Hauppauge MediaMVP
> > http://www.hauppauge.com/pages/products/data_mediamvp.html the Prismiq
> > Media player, the D-
> > link DSM 320 etc
> > The MVP is the only one I know of that works with mythtv or similar on
> > linux. It runs embedded linux itself
>
>

Michael Alletto
2004-10-18, 09:54
I've looked at MythTV and Freevo, but they do too much. The dvd
doesn't have to be ripped to the HD, it just needs to be copied.
Whether the MPAA thinks that it is illegal is not relevent since
according to the law if I own a dvd, I can make a backup copy of it.
The MPAA disagrees, but the courts side with the consumer. I think in
order for a product like this to succeed it needs a few basic things
like Linux or windows support with open source server software. The
ability to "plug-in" decoders for various movie encodings. Enough
processing power on the box to handle at least 2 streams. Including
the ability to play VOB files as a bonus, not as the primary use of
the box. I'm sure there are people out there with home movies stored
in their PC's that they would love to be able to stream to their tvs
without making a dvd or vhs.

I think the manufacturers are playing it safe instead of taking a risk
with a revolutionary product that could change a lot of things if done
correctly. They are afraid of being sued by the MPAA over what
basically has been deemed legal since the days of the VHS. The
manufacturers don't want to take a risk so they keep trying to put out
these half hearted attempts that are nothing but crappy products.
When the product doesn't sell they then make up an excuse like the
market doesn't want such a product or the MPAA says its illegal.

Streaming music is basically just getting started, video is the next
logical step. All we need is something to step up to the plate and do
it.


On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 10:59:10 -0400, Jeff Fila <jtfila (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:
> Being a hardware reviewer who's passion is networked media devices
> like the Squeezebox, I'm always looking for such products.
>
> Aside from your own home-built PC-based solution, there really aren't
> many (or any) options for playing VOBs. To this list it sounds like a
> great idea but to the average consumer, its just too much work and too
> confusing for companies to spend money on developing such a product
> right now.
>
> The Gateway Connected DVD player does a good job of playing video -
> but not VOBs. It does a great job of playing MPEG2 video and is only
> hampered by the limitations of the wireless network. This device is
> built by GoVideo and they have some good products in this department.
>
> ROKU is a non-factor here as are the other video products I have seen.
> I have reviewed the Actiontec Wireless Media Player and am now working
> on the On3 by FIA (which both use the same OS/front end) and media
> playback is limited and buggy.
>
> In speaking to developers and the president of ReQuest Multimedia
> recently, they all told me that basically since there are no easy/good
> ways of obtaining DVDs over the net, and that the process of ripping
> is too hard for the average consumer - not to mention viewed as
> illegal by the MPAA - that manufacturers won't make a push for it for
> quite a while.
>
> I've been searching for quite a while for a project for a linux distro
> that can turn PC hardware into a set-top-box for audio, pictures, and
> movies but there really isn't anything good around. MythTV and
> KnoppMyth - the live CD based on it are OK but still need a lot of
> work IMO.
>
> Jeff Fila
> www.designtechnica.com
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 20:16:36 -0400, David Jameson <david (AT) digiportal (DOT) com> wrote:
> > Wow - quite a response - yes, I knew about the Hauppauge player but wasn't
> > sure how good it was or if I could really use it with Linux.
> >
> > On the other hand, I've had so much success with the hardware boxes from
> > SlimDevices that I hate to take my business elsewhere.
> >
> > D
> >
> > "P McDowell" <pmcdowell (AT) paradise (DOT) net.nz> wrote in
> > message news:ckipdo$2hb$1 (AT) sea (DOT) gmane.org...
> >
> >
> > >
> > > "David Jameson" <david (AT) digiportal (DOT) com> wrote in
> > > message news:ckhqld$4as$1 (AT) sea (DOT) gmane.org...
> > >> Now that I've got 4 of these SqueezeBoxes up and running in my house and
> > >> eliminated my CD changer, I'd like to do the same thing for my DVD
> > >> collection.....is SlimDevices going to come out with a box that will
> > >> stream video from a Linux server? If not, is there anything else out
> > >> there that will?
> > >>
> > >> Thanks,
> > >> David Jameson
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> _______
> > >
> > > There is the Hauppauge MediaMVP
> > > http://www.hauppauge.com/pages/products/data_mediamvp.html the Prismiq
> > > Media player, the D-
> > > link DSM 320 etc
> > > The MVP is the only one I know of that works with mythtv or similar on
> > > linux. It runs embedded linux itself
> >
> >

Jonathan Greene
2004-10-18, 10:14
Just curious what you mean by Roku is a non-factor? I was under the
impression you could do .vob through the free software they link to...

I've also been playing with an eyehome media player which connects and
plays all your content on Mac (only) and works well with a few
caveats...
http://www.atmasphere.net/wp/archives/2004/10/17/mac-media-center



On Oct 18, 2004, at 10:59 AM, Jeff Fila wrote:

> Being a hardware reviewer who's passion is networked media devices
> like the Squeezebox, I'm always looking for such products.
>
> Aside from your own home-built PC-based solution, there really aren't
> many (or any) options for playing VOBs. To this list it sounds like a
> great idea but to the average consumer, its just too much work and too
> confusing for companies to spend money on developing such a product
> right now.
>
> The Gateway Connected DVD player does a good job of playing video -
> but not VOBs. It does a great job of playing MPEG2 video and is only
> hampered by the limitations of the wireless network. This device is
> built by GoVideo and they have some good products in this department.
>
> ROKU is a non-factor here as are the other video products I have seen.
> I have reviewed the Actiontec Wireless Media Player and am now working
> on the On3 by FIA (which both use the same OS/front end) and media
> playback is limited and buggy.
>
> In speaking to developers and the president of ReQuest Multimedia
> recently, they all told me that basically since there are no easy/good
> ways of obtaining DVDs over the net, and that the process of ripping
> is too hard for the average consumer - not to mention viewed as
> illegal by the MPAA - that manufacturers won't make a push for it for
> quite a while.
>
> I've been searching for quite a while for a project for a linux distro
> that can turn PC hardware into a set-top-box for audio, pictures, and
> movies but there really isn't anything good around. MythTV and
> KnoppMyth - the live CD based on it are OK but still need a lot of
> work IMO.
>
> Jeff Fila
> www.designtechnica.com
>
>
> On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 20:16:36 -0400, David Jameson
> <david (AT) digiportal (DOT) com> wrote:
>> Wow - quite a response - yes, I knew about the Hauppauge player but
>> wasn't
>> sure how good it was or if I could really use it with Linux.
>>
>> On the other hand, I've had so much success with the hardware boxes
>> from
>> SlimDevices that I hate to take my business elsewhere.
>>
>> D
>>
>> "P McDowell" <pmcdowell (AT) paradise (DOT) net.nz> wrote in
>> message news:ckipdo$2hb$1 (AT) sea (DOT) gmane.org...
>>
>>
>>>
>>> "David Jameson" <david (AT) digiportal (DOT) com> wrote in
>>> message news:ckhqld$4as$1 (AT) sea (DOT) gmane.org...
>>>> Now that I've got 4 of these SqueezeBoxes up and running in my
>>>> house and
>>>> eliminated my CD changer, I'd like to do the same thing for my DVD
>>>> collection.....is SlimDevices going to come out with a box that will
>>>> stream video from a Linux server? If not, is there anything else out
>>>> there that will?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> David Jameson
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> _______
>>>
>>> There is the Hauppauge MediaMVP
>>> http://www.hauppauge.com/pages/products/data_mediamvp.html the
>>> Prismiq
>>> Media player, the D-
>>> link DSM 320 etc
>>> The MVP is the only one I know of that works with mythtv or similar
>>> on
>>> linux. It runs embedded linux itself
>>
>>

anthony webb
2004-10-18, 10:17
Very well put...

In my ideal setup I see a software piece that will allow you to put your dvd
in the computer, copy it to the HD (with image cover and dvd profiling),
then make it available to any of the clients you have plugged into the
network in the house. I see a small box that grabs and streams from a
computer acting as the "server". Note that compression although nice is the
big gotcha. I believe it should just make a "copy" so it is quick.
Encoding takes too much time and typically yeilds poor results. Copies are
easy to make and since HD space is cheap I makes sense to just copy instead
of encode.

Software packages exists that do dvd profiling, and copying (see dvd shrink,
or dvd decypter) and are extremely easy to use. What we need is a one stop
show that can do both those pieces and also serve up content. Then the
hardware to interface to the TV...

Someone in here has the technical ability to do this, lets go!




----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Alletto" <malletto (AT) gmail (DOT) com>
To: "Slim Devices Discussion" <discuss (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com>
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 10:54 AM
Subject: [slim] What about DVDs?


> I've looked at MythTV and Freevo, but they do too much. The dvd
> doesn't have to be ripped to the HD, it just needs to be copied.
> Whether the MPAA thinks that it is illegal is not relevent since
> according to the law if I own a dvd, I can make a backup copy of it.
> The MPAA disagrees, but the courts side with the consumer. I think in
> order for a product like this to succeed it needs a few basic things
> like Linux or windows support with open source server software. The
> ability to "plug-in" decoders for various movie encodings. Enough
> processing power on the box to handle at least 2 streams. Including
> the ability to play VOB files as a bonus, not as the primary use of
> the box. I'm sure there are people out there with home movies stored
> in their PC's that they would love to be able to stream to their tvs
> without making a dvd or vhs.
>
> I think the manufacturers are playing it safe instead of taking a risk
> with a revolutionary product that could change a lot of things if done
> correctly. They are afraid of being sued by the MPAA over what
> basically has been deemed legal since the days of the VHS. The
> manufacturers don't want to take a risk so they keep trying to put out
> these half hearted attempts that are nothing but crappy products.
> When the product doesn't sell they then make up an excuse like the
> market doesn't want such a product or the MPAA says its illegal.
>
> Streaming music is basically just getting started, video is the next
> logical step. All we need is something to step up to the plate and do
> it.
>
>
> On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 10:59:10 -0400, Jeff Fila <jtfila (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:
> > Being a hardware reviewer who's passion is networked media devices
> > like the Squeezebox, I'm always looking for such products.
> >
> > Aside from your own home-built PC-based solution, there really aren't
> > many (or any) options for playing VOBs. To this list it sounds like a
> > great idea but to the average consumer, its just too much work and too
> > confusing for companies to spend money on developing such a product
> > right now.
> >
> > The Gateway Connected DVD player does a good job of playing video -
> > but not VOBs. It does a great job of playing MPEG2 video and is only
> > hampered by the limitations of the wireless network. This device is
> > built by GoVideo and they have some good products in this department.
> >
> > ROKU is a non-factor here as are the other video products I have seen.
> > I have reviewed the Actiontec Wireless Media Player and am now working
> > on the On3 by FIA (which both use the same OS/front end) and media
> > playback is limited and buggy.
> >
> > In speaking to developers and the president of ReQuest Multimedia
> > recently, they all told me that basically since there are no easy/good
> > ways of obtaining DVDs over the net, and that the process of ripping
> > is too hard for the average consumer - not to mention viewed as
> > illegal by the MPAA - that manufacturers won't make a push for it for
> > quite a while.
> >
> > I've been searching for quite a while for a project for a linux distro
> > that can turn PC hardware into a set-top-box for audio, pictures, and
> > movies but there really isn't anything good around. MythTV and
> > KnoppMyth - the live CD based on it are OK but still need a lot of
> > work IMO.
> >
> > Jeff Fila
> > www.designtechnica.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 20:16:36 -0400, David Jameson <david (AT) digiportal (DOT) com>
wrote:
> > > Wow - quite a response - yes, I knew about the Hauppauge player but
wasn't
> > > sure how good it was or if I could really use it with Linux.
> > >
> > > On the other hand, I've had so much success with the hardware boxes
from
> > > SlimDevices that I hate to take my business elsewhere.
> > >
> > > D
> > >
> > > "P McDowell" <pmcdowell (AT) paradise (DOT) net.nz> wrote in
> > > message news:ckipdo$2hb$1 (AT) sea (DOT) gmane.org...
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > "David Jameson" <david (AT) digiportal (DOT) com> wrote in
> > > > message news:ckhqld$4as$1 (AT) sea (DOT) gmane.org...
> > > >> Now that I've got 4 of these SqueezeBoxes up and running in my
house and
> > > >> eliminated my CD changer, I'd like to do the same thing for my DVD
> > > >> collection.....is SlimDevices going to come out with a box that
will
> > > >> stream video from a Linux server? If not, is there anything else
out
> > > >> there that will?
> > > >>
> > > >> Thanks,
> > > >> David Jameson
> > > >>
> > > >> --
> > > >> _______
> > > >
> > > > There is the Hauppauge MediaMVP
> > > > http://www.hauppauge.com/pages/products/data_mediamvp.html the
Prismiq
> > > > Media player, the D-
> > > > link DSM 320 etc
> > > > The MVP is the only one I know of that works with mythtv or similar
on
> > > > linux. It runs embedded linux itself
> > >
> > >

anthony webb
2004-10-18, 17:21
I just may have to get a mac! :-)

Hey have you converted any vobs with ffmpegx? Great tutorial, thanks for
the link, I am just curious how long typical encoding runs? BTW, any chance
that eyehome will add vob support anytime soon?



----- Original Message -----
From: "Jonathan Greene" <atmasphere (AT) atmasphere (DOT) net>
To: "Slim Devices Discussion" <discuss (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com>
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 11:14 AM
Subject: [slim] What about DVDs?


> Just curious what you mean by Roku is a non-factor? I was under the
> impression you could do .vob through the free software they link to...
>
> I've also been playing with an eyehome media player which connects and
> plays all your content on Mac (only) and works well with a few
> caveats...
> http://www.atmasphere.net/wp/archives/2004/10/17/mac-media-center
>
>
>
> On Oct 18, 2004, at 10:59 AM, Jeff Fila wrote:
>
> > Being a hardware reviewer who's passion is networked media devices
> > like the Squeezebox, I'm always looking for such products.
> >
> > Aside from your own home-built PC-based solution, there really aren't
> > many (or any) options for playing VOBs. To this list it sounds like a
> > great idea but to the average consumer, its just too much work and too
> > confusing for companies to spend money on developing such a product
> > right now.
> >
> > The Gateway Connected DVD player does a good job of playing video -
> > but not VOBs. It does a great job of playing MPEG2 video and is only
> > hampered by the limitations of the wireless network. This device is
> > built by GoVideo and they have some good products in this department.
> >
> > ROKU is a non-factor here as are the other video products I have seen.
> > I have reviewed the Actiontec Wireless Media Player and am now working
> > on the On3 by FIA (which both use the same OS/front end) and media
> > playback is limited and buggy.
> >
> > In speaking to developers and the president of ReQuest Multimedia
> > recently, they all told me that basically since there are no easy/good
> > ways of obtaining DVDs over the net, and that the process of ripping
> > is too hard for the average consumer - not to mention viewed as
> > illegal by the MPAA - that manufacturers won't make a push for it for
> > quite a while.
> >
> > I've been searching for quite a while for a project for a linux distro
> > that can turn PC hardware into a set-top-box for audio, pictures, and
> > movies but there really isn't anything good around. MythTV and
> > KnoppMyth - the live CD based on it are OK but still need a lot of
> > work IMO.
> >
> > Jeff Fila
> > www.designtechnica.com
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 20:16:36 -0400, David Jameson
> > <david (AT) digiportal (DOT) com> wrote:
> >> Wow - quite a response - yes, I knew about the Hauppauge player but
> >> wasn't
> >> sure how good it was or if I could really use it with Linux.
> >>
> >> On the other hand, I've had so much success with the hardware boxes
> >> from
> >> SlimDevices that I hate to take my business elsewhere.
> >>
> >> D
> >>
> >> "P McDowell" <pmcdowell (AT) paradise (DOT) net.nz> wrote in
> >> message news:ckipdo$2hb$1 (AT) sea (DOT) gmane.org...
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>> "David Jameson" <david (AT) digiportal (DOT) com> wrote in
> >>> message news:ckhqld$4as$1 (AT) sea (DOT) gmane.org...
> >>>> Now that I've got 4 of these SqueezeBoxes up and running in my
> >>>> house and
> >>>> eliminated my CD changer, I'd like to do the same thing for my DVD
> >>>> collection.....is SlimDevices going to come out with a box that will
> >>>> stream video from a Linux server? If not, is there anything else out
> >>>> there that will?
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>> David Jameson
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> _______
> >>>
> >>> There is the Hauppauge MediaMVP
> >>> http://www.hauppauge.com/pages/products/data_mediamvp.html the
> >>> Prismiq
> >>> Media player, the D-
> >>> link DSM 320 etc
> >>> The MVP is the only one I know of that works with mythtv or similar
> >>> on
> >>> linux. It runs embedded linux itself
> >>
> >>

Jonathan Greene
2004-10-18, 19:33
Eyehome can play the vobs... the trick is getting the audio to work.
I can point to a VIDEO_TS directory and play the files and they look
excellent - just silent.

I've been messing with ffmpegx and it works though it's very slow -
like hours to convert a vob. I am currently testing an Elmo video (11
month old daughter) and want to have that kind of stuff accessible in
addition to my own selections. I am really trying to find an easier
way to do this and find the right balance between time and effort for
the quality. My DVD collection is right next to the TV so I could
watch a few movies before ripping the same number.


On Oct 18, 2004, at 8:21 PM, anthony webb wrote:

> I just may have to get a mac! :-)
>
> Hey have you converted any vobs with ffmpegx? Great tutorial, thanks
> for
> the link, I am just curious how long typical encoding runs? BTW, any
> chance
> that eyehome will add vob support anytime soon?
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jonathan Greene" <atmasphere (AT) atmasphere (DOT) net>
> To: "Slim Devices Discussion" <discuss (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com>
> Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 11:14 AM
> Subject: [slim] What about DVDs?
>
>
>> Just curious what you mean by Roku is a non-factor? I was under the
>> impression you could do .vob through the free software they link to...
>>
>> I've also been playing with an eyehome media player which connects and
>> plays all your content on Mac (only) and works well with a few
>> caveats...
>> http://www.atmasphere.net/wp/archives/2004/10/17/mac-media-center
>>
>>
>>
>> On Oct 18, 2004, at 10:59 AM, Jeff Fila wrote:
>>
>>> Being a hardware reviewer who's passion is networked media devices
>>> like the Squeezebox, I'm always looking for such products.
>>>
>>> Aside from your own home-built PC-based solution, there really aren't
>>> many (or any) options for playing VOBs. To this list it sounds like a
>>> great idea but to the average consumer, its just too much work and
>>> too
>>> confusing for companies to spend money on developing such a product
>>> right now.
>>>
>>> The Gateway Connected DVD player does a good job of playing video -
>>> but not VOBs. It does a great job of playing MPEG2 video and is only
>>> hampered by the limitations of the wireless network. This device is
>>> built by GoVideo and they have some good products in this department.
>>>
>>> ROKU is a non-factor here as are the other video products I have
>>> seen.
>>> I have reviewed the Actiontec Wireless Media Player and am now
>>> working
>>> on the On3 by FIA (which both use the same OS/front end) and media
>>> playback is limited and buggy.
>>>
>>> In speaking to developers and the president of ReQuest Multimedia
>>> recently, they all told me that basically since there are no
>>> easy/good
>>> ways of obtaining DVDs over the net, and that the process of ripping
>>> is too hard for the average consumer - not to mention viewed as
>>> illegal by the MPAA - that manufacturers won't make a push for it for
>>> quite a while.
>>>
>>> I've been searching for quite a while for a project for a linux
>>> distro
>>> that can turn PC hardware into a set-top-box for audio, pictures, and
>>> movies but there really isn't anything good around. MythTV and
>>> KnoppMyth - the live CD based on it are OK but still need a lot of
>>> work IMO.
>>>
>>> Jeff Fila
>>> www.designtechnica.com
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 20:16:36 -0400, David Jameson
>>> <david (AT) digiportal (DOT) com> wrote:
>>>> Wow - quite a response - yes, I knew about the Hauppauge player but
>>>> wasn't
>>>> sure how good it was or if I could really use it with Linux.
>>>>
>>>> On the other hand, I've had so much success with the hardware boxes
>>>> from
>>>> SlimDevices that I hate to take my business elsewhere.
>>>>
>>>> D
>>>>
>>>> "P McDowell" <pmcdowell (AT) paradise (DOT) net.nz> wrote in
>>>> message news:ckipdo$2hb$1 (AT) sea (DOT) gmane.org...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "David Jameson" <david (AT) digiportal (DOT) com> wrote in
>>>>> message news:ckhqld$4as$1 (AT) sea (DOT) gmane.org...
>>>>>> Now that I've got 4 of these SqueezeBoxes up and running in my
>>>>>> house and
>>>>>> eliminated my CD changer, I'd like to do the same thing for my DVD
>>>>>> collection.....is SlimDevices going to come out with a box that
>>>>>> will
>>>>>> stream video from a Linux server? If not, is there anything else
>>>>>> out
>>>>>> there that will?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> David Jameson
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> _______
>>>>>
>>>>> There is the Hauppauge MediaMVP
>>>>> http://www.hauppauge.com/pages/products/data_mediamvp.html the
>>>>> Prismiq
>>>>> Media player, the D-
>>>>> link DSM 320 etc
>>>>> The MVP is the only one I know of that works with mythtv or similar
>>>>> on
>>>>> linux. It runs embedded linux itself
>>>>
>>>>

David Jameson
2004-10-18, 19:46
Well, I've discovered another option. If you're familiar with the videolan
project (www.videolan.org), they mention a device called an AmiNet and sure
enough there's a company called Amino that makes what looks like the perfect
box for accepting streamed video from the net (via VideoLAN on a Linux box
for example).
Unfortunately they don't tell you their pricing which leads me to believe
that it's going to be too expensive for the average consumer.

http://www.aminocom.com/products/aminet110.html

Sigh,

David Jameson

P.S..... as for ripping DVDs, the best product I've found is a program
called AnyDVD from SlySoft (works only on Windows). You just leave it
running in the system tray and any DVD you insert your reader is just
decrypted on the fly and you can just copy the VOBs or use something like
Nero. Pretty trivial for the average consumer :-)




"Jeff Fila" <jtfila (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote in
message news:52be313304101807599118930 (AT) mail (DOT) gmail.com...
> Being a hardware reviewer who's passion is networked media devices
> like the Squeezebox, I'm always looking for such products.
>
> Aside from your own home-built PC-based solution, there really aren't
> many (or any) options for playing VOBs. To this list it sounds like a
> great idea but to the average consumer, its just too much work and too
> confusing for companies to spend money on developing such a product
> right now.
>
> The Gateway Connected DVD player does a good job of playing video -
> but not VOBs. It does a great job of playing MPEG2 video and is only
> hampered by the limitations of the wireless network. This device is
> built by GoVideo and they have some good products in this department.
>
> ROKU is a non-factor here as are the other video products I have seen.
> I have reviewed the Actiontec Wireless Media Player and am now working
> on the On3 by FIA (which both use the same OS/front end) and media
> playback is limited and buggy.
>
> In speaking to developers and the president of ReQuest Multimedia
> recently, they all told me that basically since there are no easy/good
> ways of obtaining DVDs over the net, and that the process of ripping
> is too hard for the average consumer - not to mention viewed as
> illegal by the MPAA - that manufacturers won't make a push for it for
> quite a while.
>
> I've been searching for quite a while for a project for a linux distro
> that can turn PC hardware into a set-top-box for audio, pictures, and
> movies but there really isn't anything good around. MythTV and
> KnoppMyth - the live CD based on it are OK but still need a lot of
> work IMO.
>
> Jeff Fila
> www.designtechnica.com
>
>
> On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 20:16:36 -0400, David Jameson
> <david (AT) digiportal (DOT) com> wrote:
>> Wow - quite a response - yes, I knew about the Hauppauge player but
>> wasn't
>> sure how good it was or if I could really use it with Linux.
>>
>> On the other hand, I've had so much success with the hardware boxes from
>> SlimDevices that I hate to take my business elsewhere.
>>
>> D
>>
>> "P McDowell" <pmcdowell (AT) paradise (DOT) net.nz> wrote in
>> message news:ckipdo$2hb$1 (AT) sea (DOT) gmane.org...
>>
>>
>> >
>> > "David Jameson" <david (AT) digiportal (DOT) com> wrote
>> > in
>> > message news:ckhqld$4as$1 (AT) sea (DOT) gmane.org...
>> >> Now that I've got 4 of these SqueezeBoxes up and running in my house
>> >> and
>> >> eliminated my CD changer, I'd like to do the same thing for my DVD
>> >> collection.....is SlimDevices going to come out with a box that will
>> >> stream video from a Linux server? If not, is there anything else out
>> >> there that will?
>> >>
>> >> Thanks,
>> >> David Jameson
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> _______
>> >
>> > There is the Hauppauge MediaMVP
>> > http://www.hauppauge.com/pages/products/data_mediamvp.html the Prismiq
>> > Media player, the D-
>> > link DSM 320 etc
>> > The MVP is the only one I know of that works with mythtv or similar on
>> > linux. It runs embedded linux itself
>>
>>

anthony webb
2004-10-18, 21:17
hmm, have you looked into the audio problem any? as far as I can tell vobs
should play fine, it even says so in their faq
(http://www.elgato.com/index.php?file=products_eyehome_faq#faq26) so I am
wondering if you have a screwy vob file maybe?

This is starting to look promising... Maybe

Seriously keep us posted on the vob issue with eyehome...


----- Original Message -----
From: "Jonathan Greene" <atmasphere (AT) atmasphere (DOT) net>
To: "Slim Devices Discussion" <discuss (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com>
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 8:33 PM
Subject: [slim] What about DVDs?


> Eyehome can play the vobs... the trick is getting the audio to work.
> I can point to a VIDEO_TS directory and play the files and they look
> excellent - just silent.
>
> I've been messing with ffmpegx and it works though it's very slow -
> like hours to convert a vob. I am currently testing an Elmo video (11
> month old daughter) and want to have that kind of stuff accessible in
> addition to my own selections. I am really trying to find an easier
> way to do this and find the right balance between time and effort for
> the quality. My DVD collection is right next to the TV so I could
> watch a few movies before ripping the same number.
>
>
> On Oct 18, 2004, at 8:21 PM, anthony webb wrote:
>
> > I just may have to get a mac! :-)
> >
> > Hey have you converted any vobs with ffmpegx? Great tutorial, thanks
> > for
> > the link, I am just curious how long typical encoding runs? BTW, any
> > chance
> > that eyehome will add vob support anytime soon?
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jonathan Greene" <atmasphere (AT) atmasphere (DOT) net>
> > To: "Slim Devices Discussion" <discuss (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com>
> > Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 11:14 AM
> > Subject: [slim] What about DVDs?
> >
> >
> >> Just curious what you mean by Roku is a non-factor? I was under the
> >> impression you could do .vob through the free software they link to...
> >>
> >> I've also been playing with an eyehome media player which connects and
> >> plays all your content on Mac (only) and works well with a few
> >> caveats...
> >> http://www.atmasphere.net/wp/archives/2004/10/17/mac-media-center
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Oct 18, 2004, at 10:59 AM, Jeff Fila wrote:
> >>
> >>> Being a hardware reviewer who's passion is networked media devices
> >>> like the Squeezebox, I'm always looking for such products.
> >>>
> >>> Aside from your own home-built PC-based solution, there really aren't
> >>> many (or any) options for playing VOBs. To this list it sounds like a
> >>> great idea but to the average consumer, its just too much work and
> >>> too
> >>> confusing for companies to spend money on developing such a product
> >>> right now.
> >>>
> >>> The Gateway Connected DVD player does a good job of playing video -
> >>> but not VOBs. It does a great job of playing MPEG2 video and is only
> >>> hampered by the limitations of the wireless network. This device is
> >>> built by GoVideo and they have some good products in this department.
> >>>
> >>> ROKU is a non-factor here as are the other video products I have
> >>> seen.
> >>> I have reviewed the Actiontec Wireless Media Player and am now
> >>> working
> >>> on the On3 by FIA (which both use the same OS/front end) and media
> >>> playback is limited and buggy.
> >>>
> >>> In speaking to developers and the president of ReQuest Multimedia
> >>> recently, they all told me that basically since there are no
> >>> easy/good
> >>> ways of obtaining DVDs over the net, and that the process of ripping
> >>> is too hard for the average consumer - not to mention viewed as
> >>> illegal by the MPAA - that manufacturers won't make a push for it for
> >>> quite a while.
> >>>
> >>> I've been searching for quite a while for a project for a linux
> >>> distro
> >>> that can turn PC hardware into a set-top-box for audio, pictures, and
> >>> movies but there really isn't anything good around. MythTV and
> >>> KnoppMyth - the live CD based on it are OK but still need a lot of
> >>> work IMO.
> >>>
> >>> Jeff Fila
> >>> www.designtechnica.com
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 20:16:36 -0400, David Jameson
> >>> <david (AT) digiportal (DOT) com> wrote:
> >>>> Wow - quite a response - yes, I knew about the Hauppauge player but
> >>>> wasn't
> >>>> sure how good it was or if I could really use it with Linux.
> >>>>
> >>>> On the other hand, I've had so much success with the hardware boxes
> >>>> from
> >>>> SlimDevices that I hate to take my business elsewhere.
> >>>>
> >>>> D
> >>>>
> >>>> "P McDowell" <pmcdowell (AT) paradise (DOT) net.nz> wrote in
> >>>> message news:ckipdo$2hb$1 (AT) sea (DOT) gmane.org...
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "David Jameson" <david (AT) digiportal (DOT) com> wrote in
> >>>>> message news:ckhqld$4as$1 (AT) sea (DOT) gmane.org...
> >>>>>> Now that I've got 4 of these SqueezeBoxes up and running in my
> >>>>>> house and
> >>>>>> eliminated my CD changer, I'd like to do the same thing for my DVD
> >>>>>> collection.....is SlimDevices going to come out with a box that
> >>>>>> will
> >>>>>> stream video from a Linux server? If not, is there anything else
> >>>>>> out
> >>>>>> there that will?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>> David Jameson
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>> _______
> >>>>>
> >>>>> There is the Hauppauge MediaMVP
> >>>>> http://www.hauppauge.com/pages/products/data_mediamvp.html the
> >>>>> Prismiq
> >>>>> Media player, the D-
> >>>>> link DSM 320 etc
> >>>>> The MVP is the only one I know of that works with mythtv or similar
> >>>>> on
> >>>>> linux. It runs embedded linux itself
> >>>>
> >>>>

Jonathan Greene
2004-10-19, 21:39
OK - I have no idea what changed at home other than the addition of
another VOIP box on my network, but suddenly .vob playback with audio
is working and I am LOVING IT! I can use mactheripper (freeware) to
backup a DVD and playback the video files in full quality with AC3
surround from my computer to my TV. This is totally cool... Audio
support for AC3 is only there is you use the digital optical connector
so keep that in mind if you are considering this as a setup. I've
tested video playback over both wired and wireless (airport extreme)
machines. Files reside on both a connected Ximeta drive as well as
external firewire drives and there are no issues to report with
playback quality or skipping.



On Oct 19, 2004, at 12:17 AM, anthony webb wrote:

> hmm, have you looked into the audio problem any? as far as I can tell
> vobs
> should play fine, it even says so in their faq
> (http://www.elgato.com/index.php?file=products_eyehome_faq#faq26) so I
> am
> wondering if you have a screwy vob file maybe?
>
> This is starting to look promising... Maybe
>
> Seriously keep us posted on the vob issue with eyehome...
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jonathan Greene" <atmasphere (AT) atmasphere (DOT) net>
> To: "Slim Devices Discussion" <discuss (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com>
> Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 8:33 PM
> Subject: [slim] What about DVDs?
>
>
>> Eyehome can play the vobs... the trick is getting the audio to work.
>> I can point to a VIDEO_TS directory and play the files and they look
>> excellent - just silent.
>>
>> I've been messing with ffmpegx and it works though it's very slow -
>> like hours to convert a vob. I am currently testing an Elmo video (11
>> month old daughter) and want to have that kind of stuff accessible in
>> addition to my own selections. I am really trying to find an easier
>> way to do this and find the right balance between time and effort for
>> the quality. My DVD collection is right next to the TV so I could
>> watch a few movies before ripping the same number.
>>
>>
>> On Oct 18, 2004, at 8:21 PM, anthony webb wrote:
>>
>>> I just may have to get a mac! :-)
>>>
>>> Hey have you converted any vobs with ffmpegx? Great tutorial, thanks
>>> for
>>> the link, I am just curious how long typical encoding runs? BTW, any
>>> chance
>>> that eyehome will add vob support anytime soon?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Jonathan Greene" <atmasphere (AT) atmasphere (DOT) net>
>>> To: "Slim Devices Discussion" <discuss (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com>
>>> Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 11:14 AM
>>> Subject: [slim] What about DVDs?
>>>
>>>
>>>> Just curious what you mean by Roku is a non-factor? I was under the
>>>> impression you could do .vob through the free software they link
>>>> to...
>>>>
>>>> I've also been playing with an eyehome media player which connects
>>>> and
>>>> plays all your content on Mac (only) and works well with a few
>>>> caveats...
>>>> http://www.atmasphere.net/wp/archives/2004/10/17/mac-media-center
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Oct 18, 2004, at 10:59 AM, Jeff Fila wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Being a hardware reviewer who's passion is networked media devices
>>>>> like the Squeezebox, I'm always looking for such products.
>>>>>
>>>>> Aside from your own home-built PC-based solution, there really
>>>>> aren't
>>>>> many (or any) options for playing VOBs. To this list it sounds
>>>>> like a
>>>>> great idea but to the average consumer, its just too much work and
>>>>> too
>>>>> confusing for companies to spend money on developing such a product
>>>>> right now.
>>>>>
>>>>> The Gateway Connected DVD player does a good job of playing video -
>>>>> but not VOBs. It does a great job of playing MPEG2 video and is
>>>>> only
>>>>> hampered by the limitations of the wireless network. This device is
>>>>> built by GoVideo and they have some good products in this
>>>>> department.
>>>>>
>>>>> ROKU is a non-factor here as are the other video products I have
>>>>> seen.
>>>>> I have reviewed the Actiontec Wireless Media Player and am now
>>>>> working
>>>>> on the On3 by FIA (which both use the same OS/front end) and media
>>>>> playback is limited and buggy.
>>>>>
>>>>> In speaking to developers and the president of ReQuest Multimedia
>>>>> recently, they all told me that basically since there are no
>>>>> easy/good
>>>>> ways of obtaining DVDs over the net, and that the process of
>>>>> ripping
>>>>> is too hard for the average consumer - not to mention viewed as
>>>>> illegal by the MPAA - that manufacturers won't make a push for it
>>>>> for
>>>>> quite a while.
>>>>>
>>>>> I've been searching for quite a while for a project for a linux
>>>>> distro
>>>>> that can turn PC hardware into a set-top-box for audio, pictures,
>>>>> and
>>>>> movies but there really isn't anything good around. MythTV and
>>>>> KnoppMyth - the live CD based on it are OK but still need a lot of
>>>>> work IMO.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jeff Fila
>>>>> www.designtechnica.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 20:16:36 -0400, David Jameson
>>>>> <david (AT) digiportal (DOT) com> wrote:
>>>>>> Wow - quite a response - yes, I knew about the Hauppauge player
>>>>>> but
>>>>>> wasn't
>>>>>> sure how good it was or if I could really use it with Linux.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On the other hand, I've had so much success with the hardware
>>>>>> boxes
>>>>>> from
>>>>>> SlimDevices that I hate to take my business elsewhere.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> D
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "P McDowell" <pmcdowell (AT) paradise (DOT) net.nz> wrote in
>>>>>> message news:ckipdo$2hb$1 (AT) sea (DOT) gmane.org...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "David Jameson" <david (AT) digiportal (DOT) com> wrote in
>>>>>>> message news:ckhqld$4as$1 (AT) sea (DOT) gmane.org...
>>>>>>>> Now that I've got 4 of these SqueezeBoxes up and running in my
>>>>>>>> house and
>>>>>>>> eliminated my CD changer, I'd like to do the same thing for my
>>>>>>>> DVD
>>>>>>>> collection.....is SlimDevices going to come out with a box that
>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>> stream video from a Linux server? If not, is there anything else
>>>>>>>> out
>>>>>>>> there that will?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>> David Jameson
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> _______
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There is the Hauppauge MediaMVP
>>>>>>> http://www.hauppauge.com/pages/products/data_mediamvp.html the
>>>>>>> Prismiq
>>>>>>> Media player, the D-
>>>>>>> link DSM 320 etc
>>>>>>> The MVP is the only one I know of that works with mythtv or
>>>>>>> similar
>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>> linux. It runs embedded linux itself
>>>>>>
>>>>>>

anthony webb
2004-10-19, 22:18
WOOT! Hey, can you tell me how/if fast forward or skip is implimented?
Does it work on the vobs? Sounds like I just might be getting a mac...
Dang, wish they'd do a windows version of the server... sounds like that
wont be happening anytime soon.

Slim devices needs to find a way for this vob stuff... They'd have my $ in a
heartbeat...

-Anthony


----- Original Message -----
From: "Jonathan Greene" <atmasphere (AT) atmasphere (DOT) net>
To: "Slim Devices Discussion" <discuss (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 10:39 PM
Subject: [slim] What about DVDs?


> OK - I have no idea what changed at home other than the addition of
> another VOIP box on my network, but suddenly .vob playback with audio
> is working and I am LOVING IT! I can use mactheripper (freeware) to
> backup a DVD and playback the video files in full quality with AC3
> surround from my computer to my TV. This is totally cool... Audio
> support for AC3 is only there is you use the digital optical connector
> so keep that in mind if you are considering this as a setup. I've
> tested video playback over both wired and wireless (airport extreme)
> machines. Files reside on both a connected Ximeta drive as well as
> external firewire drives and there are no issues to report with
> playback quality or skipping.
>
>
>
> On Oct 19, 2004, at 12:17 AM, anthony webb wrote:
>
> > hmm, have you looked into the audio problem any? as far as I can tell
> > vobs
> > should play fine, it even says so in their faq
> > (http://www.elgato.com/index.php?file=products_eyehome_faq#faq26) so I
> > am
> > wondering if you have a screwy vob file maybe?
> >
> > This is starting to look promising... Maybe
> >
> > Seriously keep us posted on the vob issue with eyehome...
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jonathan Greene" <atmasphere (AT) atmasphere (DOT) net>
> > To: "Slim Devices Discussion" <discuss (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com>
> > Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 8:33 PM
> > Subject: [slim] What about DVDs?
> >
> >
> >> Eyehome can play the vobs... the trick is getting the audio to work.
> >> I can point to a VIDEO_TS directory and play the files and they look
> >> excellent - just silent.
> >>
> >> I've been messing with ffmpegx and it works though it's very slow -
> >> like hours to convert a vob. I am currently testing an Elmo video (11
> >> month old daughter) and want to have that kind of stuff accessible in
> >> addition to my own selections. I am really trying to find an easier
> >> way to do this and find the right balance between time and effort for
> >> the quality. My DVD collection is right next to the TV so I could
> >> watch a few movies before ripping the same number.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Oct 18, 2004, at 8:21 PM, anthony webb wrote:
> >>
> >>> I just may have to get a mac! :-)
> >>>
> >>> Hey have you converted any vobs with ffmpegx? Great tutorial, thanks
> >>> for
> >>> the link, I am just curious how long typical encoding runs? BTW, any
> >>> chance
> >>> that eyehome will add vob support anytime soon?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: "Jonathan Greene" <atmasphere (AT) atmasphere (DOT) net>
> >>> To: "Slim Devices Discussion" <discuss (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com>
> >>> Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 11:14 AM
> >>> Subject: [slim] What about DVDs?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Just curious what you mean by Roku is a non-factor? I was under the
> >>>> impression you could do .vob through the free software they link
> >>>> to...
> >>>>
> >>>> I've also been playing with an eyehome media player which connects
> >>>> and
> >>>> plays all your content on Mac (only) and works well with a few
> >>>> caveats...
> >>>> http://www.atmasphere.net/wp/archives/2004/10/17/mac-media-center
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Oct 18, 2004, at 10:59 AM, Jeff Fila wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Being a hardware reviewer who's passion is networked media devices
> >>>>> like the Squeezebox, I'm always looking for such products.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Aside from your own home-built PC-based solution, there really
> >>>>> aren't
> >>>>> many (or any) options for playing VOBs. To this list it sounds
> >>>>> like a
> >>>>> great idea but to the average consumer, its just too much work and
> >>>>> too
> >>>>> confusing for companies to spend money on developing such a product
> >>>>> right now.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The Gateway Connected DVD player does a good job of playing video -
> >>>>> but not VOBs. It does a great job of playing MPEG2 video and is
> >>>>> only
> >>>>> hampered by the limitations of the wireless network. This device is
> >>>>> built by GoVideo and they have some good products in this
> >>>>> department.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ROKU is a non-factor here as are the other video products I have
> >>>>> seen.
> >>>>> I have reviewed the Actiontec Wireless Media Player and am now
> >>>>> working
> >>>>> on the On3 by FIA (which both use the same OS/front end) and media
> >>>>> playback is limited and buggy.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> In speaking to developers and the president of ReQuest Multimedia
> >>>>> recently, they all told me that basically since there are no
> >>>>> easy/good
> >>>>> ways of obtaining DVDs over the net, and that the process of
> >>>>> ripping
> >>>>> is too hard for the average consumer - not to mention viewed as
> >>>>> illegal by the MPAA - that manufacturers won't make a push for it
> >>>>> for
> >>>>> quite a while.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I've been searching for quite a while for a project for a linux
> >>>>> distro
> >>>>> that can turn PC hardware into a set-top-box for audio, pictures,
> >>>>> and
> >>>>> movies but there really isn't anything good around. MythTV and
> >>>>> KnoppMyth - the live CD based on it are OK but still need a lot of
> >>>>> work IMO.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Jeff Fila
> >>>>> www.designtechnica.com
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 20:16:36 -0400, David Jameson
> >>>>> <david (AT) digiportal (DOT) com> wrote:
> >>>>>> Wow - quite a response - yes, I knew about the Hauppauge player
> >>>>>> but
> >>>>>> wasn't
> >>>>>> sure how good it was or if I could really use it with Linux.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On the other hand, I've had so much success with the hardware
> >>>>>> boxes
> >>>>>> from
> >>>>>> SlimDevices that I hate to take my business elsewhere.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> D
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> "P McDowell" <pmcdowell (AT) paradise (DOT) net.nz> wrote in
> >>>>>> message news:ckipdo$2hb$1 (AT) sea (DOT) gmane.org...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> "David Jameson" <david (AT) digiportal (DOT) com> wrote in
> >>>>>>> message news:ckhqld$4as$1 (AT) sea (DOT) gmane.org...
> >>>>>>>> Now that I've got 4 of these SqueezeBoxes up and running in my
> >>>>>>>> house and
> >>>>>>>> eliminated my CD changer, I'd like to do the same thing for my
> >>>>>>>> DVD
> >>>>>>>> collection.....is SlimDevices going to come out with a box that
> >>>>>>>> will
> >>>>>>>> stream video from a Linux server? If not, is there anything else
> >>>>>>>> out
> >>>>>>>> there that will?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>>> David Jameson
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>> _______
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> There is the Hauppauge MediaMVP
> >>>>>>> http://www.hauppauge.com/pages/products/data_mediamvp.html the
> >>>>>>> Prismiq
> >>>>>>> Media player, the D-
> >>>>>>> link DSM 320 etc
> >>>>>>> The MVP is the only one I know of that works with mythtv or
> >>>>>>> similar
> >>>>>>> on
> >>>>>>> linux. It runs embedded linux itself
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>

Jonathan Greene
2004-10-20, 04:50
You can scan forward and backward up to 4x, but it's a tad hokey. It
does work though on the vobs as well as the other media in your
collection. The only negative (which they tell me is being worked on)
is title suppression so you don't get the new track info as it passes
the next vob files in a movie.


On Oct 20, 2004, at 1:18 AM, anthony webb wrote:

> WOOT! Hey, can you tell me how/if fast forward or skip is implimented?
> Does it work on the vobs? Sounds like I just might be getting a mac...
> Dang, wish they'd do a windows version of the server... sounds like
> that
> wont be happening anytime soon.
>
> Slim devices needs to find a way for this vob stuff... They'd have my
> $ in a
> heartbeat...
>
> -Anthony
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jonathan Greene" <atmasphere (AT) atmasphere (DOT) net>
> To: "Slim Devices Discussion" <discuss (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 10:39 PM
> Subject: [slim] What about DVDs?
>
>
>> OK - I have no idea what changed at home other than the addition of
>> another VOIP box on my network, but suddenly .vob playback with audio
>> is working and I am LOVING IT! I can use mactheripper (freeware) to
>> backup a DVD and playback the video files in full quality with AC3
>> surround from my computer to my TV. This is totally cool... Audio
>> support for AC3 is only there is you use the digital optical connector
>> so keep that in mind if you are considering this as a setup. I've
>> tested video playback over both wired and wireless (airport extreme)
>> machines. Files reside on both a connected Ximeta drive as well as
>> external firewire drives and there are no issues to report with
>> playback quality or skipping.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Oct 19, 2004, at 12:17 AM, anthony webb wrote:
>>
>>> hmm, have you looked into the audio problem any? as far as I can
>>> tell
>>> vobs
>>> should play fine, it even says so in their faq
>>> (http://www.elgato.com/index.php?file=products_eyehome_faq#faq26) so
>>> I
>>> am
>>> wondering if you have a screwy vob file maybe?
>>>
>>> This is starting to look promising... Maybe
>>>
>>> Seriously keep us posted on the vob issue with eyehome...
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Jonathan Greene" <atmasphere (AT) atmasphere (DOT) net>
>>> To: "Slim Devices Discussion" <discuss (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com>
>>> Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 8:33 PM
>>> Subject: [slim] What about DVDs?
>>>
>>>
>>>> Eyehome can play the vobs... the trick is getting the audio to
>>>> work.
>>>> I can point to a VIDEO_TS directory and play the files and they look
>>>> excellent - just silent.
>>>>
>>>> I've been messing with ffmpegx and it works though it's very slow -
>>>> like hours to convert a vob. I am currently testing an Elmo video
>>>> (11
>>>> month old daughter) and want to have that kind of stuff accessible
>>>> in
>>>> addition to my own selections. I am really trying to find an easier
>>>> way to do this and find the right balance between time and effort
>>>> for
>>>> the quality. My DVD collection is right next to the TV so I could
>>>> watch a few movies before ripping the same number.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Oct 18, 2004, at 8:21 PM, anthony webb wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I just may have to get a mac! :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Hey have you converted any vobs with ffmpegx? Great tutorial,
>>>>> thanks
>>>>> for
>>>>> the link, I am just curious how long typical encoding runs? BTW,
>>>>> any
>>>>> chance
>>>>> that eyehome will add vob support anytime soon?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Jonathan Greene" <atmasphere (AT) atmasphere (DOT) net>
>>>>> To: "Slim Devices Discussion" <discuss (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com>
>>>>> Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 11:14 AM
>>>>> Subject: [slim] What about DVDs?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Just curious what you mean by Roku is a non-factor? I was under
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> impression you could do .vob through the free software they link
>>>>>> to...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've also been playing with an eyehome media player which connects
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> plays all your content on Mac (only) and works well with a few
>>>>>> caveats...
>>>>>> http://www.atmasphere.net/wp/archives/2004/10/17/mac-media-center
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Oct 18, 2004, at 10:59 AM, Jeff Fila wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Being a hardware reviewer who's passion is networked media
>>>>>>> devices
>>>>>>> like the Squeezebox, I'm always looking for such products.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Aside from your own home-built PC-based solution, there really
>>>>>>> aren't
>>>>>>> many (or any) options for playing VOBs. To this list it sounds
>>>>>>> like a
>>>>>>> great idea but to the average consumer, its just too much work
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> too
>>>>>>> confusing for companies to spend money on developing such a
>>>>>>> product
>>>>>>> right now.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The Gateway Connected DVD player does a good job of playing
>>>>>>> video -
>>>>>>> but not VOBs. It does a great job of playing MPEG2 video and is
>>>>>>> only
>>>>>>> hampered by the limitations of the wireless network. This device
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>> built by GoVideo and they have some good products in this
>>>>>>> department.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ROKU is a non-factor here as are the other video products I have
>>>>>>> seen.
>>>>>>> I have reviewed the Actiontec Wireless Media Player and am now
>>>>>>> working
>>>>>>> on the On3 by FIA (which both use the same OS/front end) and
>>>>>>> media
>>>>>>> playback is limited and buggy.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In speaking to developers and the president of ReQuest Multimedia
>>>>>>> recently, they all told me that basically since there are no
>>>>>>> easy/good
>>>>>>> ways of obtaining DVDs over the net, and that the process of
>>>>>>> ripping
>>>>>>> is too hard for the average consumer - not to mention viewed as
>>>>>>> illegal by the MPAA - that manufacturers won't make a push for it
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> quite a while.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've been searching for quite a while for a project for a linux
>>>>>>> distro
>>>>>>> that can turn PC hardware into a set-top-box for audio, pictures,
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> movies but there really isn't anything good around. MythTV and
>>>>>>> KnoppMyth - the live CD based on it are OK but still need a lot
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> work IMO.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jeff Fila
>>>>>>> www.designtechnica.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 20:16:36 -0400, David Jameson
>>>>>>> <david (AT) digiportal (DOT) com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Wow - quite a response - yes, I knew about the Hauppauge player
>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>> wasn't
>>>>>>>> sure how good it was or if I could really use it with Linux.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On the other hand, I've had so much success with the hardware
>>>>>>>> boxes
>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>> SlimDevices that I hate to take my business elsewhere.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> D
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "P McDowell" <pmcdowell (AT) paradise (DOT) net.nz> wrote in
>>>>>>>> message news:ckipdo$2hb$1 (AT) sea (DOT) gmane.org...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "David Jameson" <david (AT) digiportal (DOT) com> wrote in
>>>>>>>>> message news:ckhqld$4as$1 (AT) sea (DOT) gmane.org...
>>>>>>>>>> Now that I've got 4 of these SqueezeBoxes up and running in my
>>>>>>>>>> house and
>>>>>>>>>> eliminated my CD changer, I'd like to do the same thing for my
>>>>>>>>>> DVD
>>>>>>>>>> collection.....is SlimDevices going to come out with a box
>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>>> stream video from a Linux server? If not, is there anything
>>>>>>>>>> else
>>>>>>>>>> out
>>>>>>>>>> there that will?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>> David Jameson
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> _______
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> There is the Hauppauge MediaMVP
>>>>>>>>> http://www.hauppauge.com/pages/products/data_mediamvp.html the
>>>>>>>>> Prismiq
>>>>>>>>> Media player, the D-
>>>>>>>>> link DSM 320 etc
>>>>>>>>> The MVP is the only one I know of that works with mythtv or
>>>>>>>>> similar
>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>> linux. It runs embedded linux itself
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>

Michael Alletto
2004-10-20, 08:15
That eyehome player is really cool. Would love to see a version that
runs on linux, or windows, no techinical reason its mac only except
laziness. Since it runs on OSX, to get it to run on linux would be
trivial if they would let the source code out into the public. I
doubt there is any proprietary info there. It would even get them
more sales if they did it.


On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 07:50:36 -0400, Jonathan Greene
<atmasphere (AT) atmasphere (DOT) net> wrote:
> You can scan forward and backward up to 4x, but it's a tad hokey. It
> does work though on the vobs as well as the other media in your
> collection. The only negative (which they tell me is being worked on)
> is title suppression so you don't get the new track info as it passes
> the next vob files in a movie.
>
>
>
>
> On Oct 20, 2004, at 1:18 AM, anthony webb wrote:
>
> > WOOT! Hey, can you tell me how/if fast forward or skip is implimented?
> > Does it work on the vobs? Sounds like I just might be getting a mac...
> > Dang, wish they'd do a windows version of the server... sounds like
> > that
> > wont be happening anytime soon.
> >
> > Slim devices needs to find a way for this vob stuff... They'd have my
> > $ in a
> > heartbeat...
> >
> > -Anthony
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jonathan Greene" <atmasphere (AT) atmasphere (DOT) net>
> > To: "Slim Devices Discussion" <discuss (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 10:39 PM
> > Subject: [slim] What about DVDs?
> >
> >
> >> OK - I have no idea what changed at home other than the addition of
> >> another VOIP box on my network, but suddenly .vob playback with audio
> >> is working and I am LOVING IT! I can use mactheripper (freeware) to
> >> backup a DVD and playback the video files in full quality with AC3
> >> surround from my computer to my TV. This is totally cool... Audio
> >> support for AC3 is only there is you use the digital optical connector
> >> so keep that in mind if you are considering this as a setup. I've
> >> tested video playback over both wired and wireless (airport extreme)
> >> machines. Files reside on both a connected Ximeta drive as well as
> >> external firewire drives and there are no issues to report with
> >> playback quality or skipping.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Oct 19, 2004, at 12:17 AM, anthony webb wrote:
> >>
> >>> hmm, have you looked into the audio problem any? as far as I can
> >>> tell
> >>> vobs
> >>> should play fine, it even says so in their faq
> >>> (http://www.elgato.com/index.php?file=products_eyehome_faq#faq26) so
> >>> I
> >>> am
> >>> wondering if you have a screwy vob file maybe?
> >>>
> >>> This is starting to look promising... Maybe
> >>>
> >>> Seriously keep us posted on the vob issue with eyehome...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: "Jonathan Greene" <atmasphere (AT) atmasphere (DOT) net>
> >>> To: "Slim Devices Discussion" <discuss (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com>
> >>> Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 8:33 PM
> >>> Subject: [slim] What about DVDs?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Eyehome can play the vobs... the trick is getting the audio to
> >>>> work.
> >>>> I can point to a VIDEO_TS directory and play the files and they look
> >>>> excellent - just silent.
> >>>>
> >>>> I've been messing with ffmpegx and it works though it's very slow -
> >>>> like hours to convert a vob. I am currently testing an Elmo video
> >>>> (11
> >>>> month old daughter) and want to have that kind of stuff accessible
> >>>> in
> >>>> addition to my own selections. I am really trying to find an easier
> >>>> way to do this and find the right balance between time and effort
> >>>> for
> >>>> the quality. My DVD collection is right next to the TV so I could
> >>>> watch a few movies before ripping the same number.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Oct 18, 2004, at 8:21 PM, anthony webb wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> I just may have to get a mac! :-)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hey have you converted any vobs with ffmpegx? Great tutorial,
> >>>>> thanks
> >>>>> for
> >>>>> the link, I am just curious how long typical encoding runs? BTW,
> >>>>> any
> >>>>> chance
> >>>>> that eyehome will add vob support anytime soon?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>>> From: "Jonathan Greene" <atmasphere (AT) atmasphere (DOT) net>
> >>>>> To: "Slim Devices Discussion" <discuss (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com>
> >>>>> Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 11:14 AM
> >>>>> Subject: [slim] What about DVDs?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Just curious what you mean by Roku is a non-factor? I was under
> >>>>>> the
> >>>>>> impression you could do .vob through the free software they link
> >>>>>> to...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I've also been playing with an eyehome media player which connects
> >>>>>> and
> >>>>>> plays all your content on Mac (only) and works well with a few
> >>>>>> caveats...
> >>>>>> http://www.atmasphere.net/wp/archives/2004/10/17/mac-media-center
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Oct 18, 2004, at 10:59 AM, Jeff Fila wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Being a hardware reviewer who's passion is networked media
> >>>>>>> devices
> >>>>>>> like the Squeezebox, I'm always looking for such products.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Aside from your own home-built PC-based solution, there really
> >>>>>>> aren't
> >>>>>>> many (or any) options for playing VOBs. To this list it sounds
> >>>>>>> like a
> >>>>>>> great idea but to the average consumer, its just too much work
> >>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>> too
> >>>>>>> confusing for companies to spend money on developing such a
> >>>>>>> product
> >>>>>>> right now.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> The Gateway Connected DVD player does a good job of playing
> >>>>>>> video -
> >>>>>>> but not VOBs. It does a great job of playing MPEG2 video and is
> >>>>>>> only
> >>>>>>> hampered by the limitations of the wireless network. This device
> >>>>>>> is
> >>>>>>> built by GoVideo and they have some good products in this
> >>>>>>> department.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> ROKU is a non-factor here as are the other video products I have
> >>>>>>> seen.
> >>>>>>> I have reviewed the Actiontec Wireless Media Player and am now
> >>>>>>> working
> >>>>>>> on the On3 by FIA (which both use the same OS/front end) and
> >>>>>>> media
> >>>>>>> playback is limited and buggy.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> In speaking to developers and the president of ReQuest Multimedia
> >>>>>>> recently, they all told me that basically since there are no
> >>>>>>> easy/good
> >>>>>>> ways of obtaining DVDs over the net, and that the process of
> >>>>>>> ripping
> >>>>>>> is too hard for the average consumer - not to mention viewed as
> >>>>>>> illegal by the MPAA - that manufacturers won't make a push for it
> >>>>>>> for
> >>>>>>> quite a while.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I've been searching for quite a while for a project for a linux
> >>>>>>> distro
> >>>>>>> that can turn PC hardware into a set-top-box for audio, pictures,
> >>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>> movies but there really isn't anything good around. MythTV and
> >>>>>>> KnoppMyth - the live CD based on it are OK but still need a lot
> >>>>>>> of
> >>>>>>> work IMO.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Jeff Fila
> >>>>>>> www.designtechnica.com
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 20:16:36 -0400, David Jameson
> >>>>>>> <david (AT) digiportal (DOT) com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> Wow - quite a response - yes, I knew about the Hauppauge player
> >>>>>>>> but
> >>>>>>>> wasn't
> >>>>>>>> sure how good it was or if I could really use it with Linux.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On the other hand, I've had so much success with the hardware
> >>>>>>>> boxes
> >>>>>>>> from
> >>>>>>>> SlimDevices that I hate to take my business elsewhere.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> D
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> "P McDowell" <pmcdowell (AT) paradise (DOT) net.nz> wrote in
> >>>>>>>> message news:ckipdo$2hb$1 (AT) sea (DOT) gmane.org...
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> "David Jameson" <david (AT) digiportal (DOT) com> wrote in
> >>>>>>>>> message news:ckhqld$4as$1 (AT) sea (DOT) gmane.org...
> >>>>>>>>>> Now that I've got 4 of these SqueezeBoxes up and running in my
> >>>>>>>>>> house and
> >>>>>>>>>> eliminated my CD changer, I'd like to do the same thing for my
> >>>>>>>>>> DVD
> >>>>>>>>>> collection.....is SlimDevices going to come out with a box
> >>>>>>>>>> that
> >>>>>>>>>> will
> >>>>>>>>>> stream video from a Linux server? If not, is there anything
> >>>>>>>>>> else
> >>>>>>>>>> out
> >>>>>>>>>> there that will?
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>>>>> David Jameson
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>> _______
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> There is the Hauppauge MediaMVP
> >>>>>>>>> http://www.hauppauge.com/pages/products/data_mediamvp.html the
> >>>>>>>>> Prismiq
> >>>>>>>>> Media player, the D-
> >>>>>>>>> link DSM 320 etc
> >>>>>>>>> The MVP is the only one I know of that works with mythtv or
> >>>>>>>>> similar
> >>>>>>>>> on
> >>>>>>>>> linux. It runs embedded linux itself
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>

Jonathan Greene
2004-10-20, 08:53
I would imagine it could actually run on all platforms... there is
Zero-Conf (Apple's Rendezvous) for everyone, it'd just be a matter of
sharing content from standard locations based on type of device. I can
already review photos from both my ~/Pictures directory as well as my
iPhoto library...


On Oct 20, 2004, at 11:15 AM, Michael Alletto wrote:

> That eyehome player is really cool. Would love to see a version that
> runs on linux, or windows, no techinical reason its mac only except
> laziness. Since it runs on OSX, to get it to run on linux would be
> trivial if they would let the source code out into the public. I
> doubt there is any proprietary info there. It would even get them
> more sales if they did it.
>
>
> On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 07:50:36 -0400, Jonathan Greene
> <atmasphere (AT) atmasphere (DOT) net> wrote:
>> You can scan forward and backward up to 4x, but it's a tad hokey. It
>> does work though on the vobs as well as the other media in your
>> collection. The only negative (which they tell me is being worked on)
>> is title suppression so you don't get the new track info as it passes
>> the next vob files in a movie.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Oct 20, 2004, at 1:18 AM, anthony webb wrote:
>>
>>> WOOT! Hey, can you tell me how/if fast forward or skip is
>>> implimented?
>>> Does it work on the vobs? Sounds like I just might be getting a
>>> mac...
>>> Dang, wish they'd do a windows version of the server... sounds like
>>> that
>>> wont be happening anytime soon.
>>>
>>> Slim devices needs to find a way for this vob stuff... They'd have my
>>> $ in a
>>> heartbeat...
>>>
>>> -Anthony
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Jonathan Greene" <atmasphere (AT) atmasphere (DOT) net>
>>> To: "Slim Devices Discussion" <discuss (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 10:39 PM
>>> Subject: [slim] What about DVDs?
>>>
>>>
>>>> OK - I have no idea what changed at home other than the addition of
>>>> another VOIP box on my network, but suddenly .vob playback with
>>>> audio
>>>> is working and I am LOVING IT! I can use mactheripper (freeware) to
>>>> backup a DVD and playback the video files in full quality with AC3
>>>> surround from my computer to my TV. This is totally cool... Audio
>>>> support for AC3 is only there is you use the digital optical
>>>> connector
>>>> so keep that in mind if you are considering this as a setup. I've
>>>> tested video playback over both wired and wireless (airport extreme)
>>>> machines. Files reside on both a connected Ximeta drive as well as
>>>> external firewire drives and there are no issues to report with
>>>> playback quality or skipping.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Oct 19, 2004, at 12:17 AM, anthony webb wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> hmm, have you looked into the audio problem any? as far as I can
>>>>> tell
>>>>> vobs
>>>>> should play fine, it even says so in their faq
>>>>> (http://www.elgato.com/index.php?file=products_eyehome_faq#faq26)
>>>>> so
>>>>> I
>>>>> am
>>>>> wondering if you have a screwy vob file maybe?
>>>>>
>>>>> This is starting to look promising... Maybe
>>>>>
>>>>> Seriously keep us posted on the vob issue with eyehome...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Jonathan Greene" <atmasphere (AT) atmasphere (DOT) net>
>>>>> To: "Slim Devices Discussion" <discuss (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com>
>>>>> Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 8:33 PM
>>>>> Subject: [slim] What about DVDs?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Eyehome can play the vobs... the trick is getting the audio to
>>>>>> work.
>>>>>> I can point to a VIDEO_TS directory and play the files and they
>>>>>> look
>>>>>> excellent - just silent.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've been messing with ffmpegx and it works though it's very slow
>>>>>> -
>>>>>> like hours to convert a vob. I am currently testing an Elmo video
>>>>>> (11
>>>>>> month old daughter) and want to have that kind of stuff accessible
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> addition to my own selections. I am really trying to find an
>>>>>> easier
>>>>>> way to do this and find the right balance between time and effort
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> the quality. My DVD collection is right next to the TV so I could
>>>>>> watch a few movies before ripping the same number.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Oct 18, 2004, at 8:21 PM, anthony webb wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I just may have to get a mac! :-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hey have you converted any vobs with ffmpegx? Great tutorial,
>>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> the link, I am just curious how long typical encoding runs? BTW,
>>>>>>> any
>>>>>>> chance
>>>>>>> that eyehome will add vob support anytime soon?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Jonathan Greene" <atmasphere (AT) atmasphere (DOT) net>
>>>>>>> To: "Slim Devices Discussion" <discuss (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com>
>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 11:14 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: [slim] What about DVDs?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Just curious what you mean by Roku is a non-factor? I was under
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> impression you could do .vob through the free software they link
>>>>>>>> to...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I've also been playing with an eyehome media player which
>>>>>>>> connects
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> plays all your content on Mac (only) and works well with a few
>>>>>>>> caveats...
>>>>>>>> http://www.atmasphere.net/wp/archives/2004/10/17/mac-media-
>>>>>>>> center
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Oct 18, 2004, at 10:59 AM, Jeff Fila wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Being a hardware reviewer who's passion is networked media
>>>>>>>>> devices
>>>>>>>>> like the Squeezebox, I'm always looking for such products.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Aside from your own home-built PC-based solution, there really
>>>>>>>>> aren't
>>>>>>>>> many (or any) options for playing VOBs. To this list it sounds
>>>>>>>>> like a
>>>>>>>>> great idea but to the average consumer, its just too much work
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> too
>>>>>>>>> confusing for companies to spend money on developing such a
>>>>>>>>> product
>>>>>>>>> right now.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The Gateway Connected DVD player does a good job of playing
>>>>>>>>> video -
>>>>>>>>> but not VOBs. It does a great job of playing MPEG2 video and is
>>>>>>>>> only
>>>>>>>>> hampered by the limitations of the wireless network. This
>>>>>>>>> device
>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>> built by GoVideo and they have some good products in this
>>>>>>>>> department.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ROKU is a non-factor here as are the other video products I
>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>> seen.
>>>>>>>>> I have reviewed the Actiontec Wireless Media Player and am now
>>>>>>>>> working
>>>>>>>>> on the On3 by FIA (which both use the same OS/front end) and
>>>>>>>>> media
>>>>>>>>> playback is limited and buggy.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> In speaking to developers and the president of ReQuest
>>>>>>>>> Multimedia
>>>>>>>>> recently, they all told me that basically since there are no
>>>>>>>>> easy/good
>>>>>>>>> ways of obtaining DVDs over the net, and that the process of
>>>>>>>>> ripping
>>>>>>>>> is too hard for the average consumer - not to mention viewed as
>>>>>>>>> illegal by the MPAA - that manufacturers won't make a push for
>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>> quite a while.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I've been searching for quite a while for a project for a linux
>>>>>>>>> distro
>>>>>>>>> that can turn PC hardware into a set-top-box for audio,
>>>>>>>>> pictures,
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> movies but there really isn't anything good around. MythTV and
>>>>>>>>> KnoppMyth - the live CD based on it are OK but still need a lot
>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>> work IMO.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Jeff Fila
>>>>>>>>> www.designtechnica.com
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 20:16:36 -0400, David Jameson
>>>>>>>>> <david (AT) digiportal (DOT) com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Wow - quite a response - yes, I knew about the Hauppauge
>>>>>>>>>> player
>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>> wasn't
>>>>>>>>>> sure how good it was or if I could really use it with Linux.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On the other hand, I've had so much success with the hardware
>>>>>>>>>> boxes
>>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>> SlimDevices that I hate to take my business elsewhere.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> D
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "P McDowell" <pmcdowell (AT) paradise (DOT) net.nz> wrote in
>>>>>>>>>> message news:ckipdo$2hb$1 (AT) sea (DOT) gmane.org...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "David Jameson" <david (AT) digiportal (DOT) com> wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>> message news:ckhqld$4as$1 (AT) sea (DOT) gmane.org...
>>>>>>>>>>>> Now that I've got 4 of these SqueezeBoxes up and running in
>>>>>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>>>>> house and
>>>>>>>>>>>> eliminated my CD changer, I'd like to do the same thing for
>>>>>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>>>>> DVD
>>>>>>>>>>>> collection.....is SlimDevices going to come out with a box
>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>>>>> stream video from a Linux server? If not, is there anything
>>>>>>>>>>>> else
>>>>>>>>>>>> out
>>>>>>>>>>>> there that will?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>> David Jameson
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> _______
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> There is the Hauppauge MediaMVP
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.hauppauge.com/pages/products/data_mediamvp.html
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> Prismiq
>>>>>>>>>>> Media player, the D-
>>>>>>>>>>> link DSM 320 etc
>>>>>>>>>>> The MVP is the only one I know of that works with mythtv or
>>>>>>>>>>> similar
>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>> linux. It runs embedded linux itself
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>

David Jameson
2004-10-21, 04:26
I've found yet another product that apparently supports DVD video.
http://www.aminocom.com/products/aminet110.html

I found it through a reference in the opensource VideoLAN project
(http://www.videolan.org/) that streams video and they indicate they've
tested with that device.

I understand why SlimDevices like most companies doesn't want to reveal
future product plans but I wish they could indicate whether they will have a
video streamer soon - I would be willing to wait a couple of months for it
but I don't want to wait years.

David


"Jonathan Greene" <atmasphere (AT) atmasphere (DOT) net> wrote
in message news:27A41848-22B0-11D9-AF18-000A95C47866 (AT) atmasphere (DOT) net...
>I would imagine it could actually run on all platforms... there is
>Zero-Conf (Apple's Rendezvous) for everyone, it'd just be a matter of
>sharing content from standard locations based on type of device. I can
>already review photos from both my ~/Pictures directory as well as my
>iPhoto library...
>
>
> On Oct 20, 2004, at 11:15 AM, Michael Alletto wrote:
>
>> That eyehome player is really cool. Would love to see a version that
>> runs on linux, or windows, no techinical reason its mac only except
>> laziness. Since it runs on OSX, to get it to run on linux would be
>> trivial if they would let the source code out into the public. I
>> doubt there is any proprietary info there. It would even get them
>> more sales if they did it.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 07:50:36 -0400, Jonathan Greene
>> <atmasphere (AT) atmasphere (DOT) net> wrote:
>>> You can scan forward and backward up to 4x, but it's a tad hokey. It
>>> does work though on the vobs as well as the other media in your
>>> collection. The only negative (which they tell me is being worked on)
>>> is title suppression so you don't get the new track info as it passes
>>> the next vob files in a movie.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Oct 20, 2004, at 1:18 AM, anthony webb wrote:
>>>
>>>> WOOT! Hey, can you tell me how/if fast forward or skip is
>>>> implimented?
>>>> Does it work on the vobs? Sounds like I just might be getting a
>>>> mac...
>>>> Dang, wish they'd do a windows version of the server... sounds like
>>>> that
>>>> wont be happening anytime soon.
>>>>
>>>> Slim devices needs to find a way for this vob stuff... They'd have my
>>>> $ in a
>>>> heartbeat...
>>>>
>>>> -Anthony
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Jonathan Greene"
>>>> <atmasphere (AT) atmasphere (DOT) net>
>>>> To: "Slim Devices Discussion"
>>>> <discuss (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 10:39 PM
>>>> Subject: [slim] What about DVDs?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> OK - I have no idea what changed at home other than the addition of
>>>>> another VOIP box on my network, but suddenly .vob playback with audio
>>>>> is working and I am LOVING IT! I can use mactheripper (freeware) to
>>>>> backup a DVD and playback the video files in full quality with AC3
>>>>> surround from my computer to my TV. This is totally cool... Audio
>>>>> support for AC3 is only there is you use the digital optical
>>>>> connector
>>>>> so keep that in mind if you are considering this as a setup. I've
>>>>> tested video playback over both wired and wireless (airport extreme)
>>>>> machines. Files reside on both a connected Ximeta drive as well as
>>>>> external firewire drives and there are no issues to report with
>>>>> playback quality or skipping.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Oct 19, 2004, at 12:17 AM, anthony webb wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> hmm, have you looked into the audio problem any? as far as I can
>>>>>> tell
>>>>>> vobs
>>>>>> should play fine, it even says so in their faq
>>>>>> (http://www.elgato.com/index.php?file=products_eyehome_faq#faq26) so
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> am
>>>>>> wondering if you have a screwy vob file maybe?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is starting to look promising... Maybe
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Seriously keep us posted on the vob issue with eyehome...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Jonathan Greene"
>>>>>> <atmasphere (AT) atmasphere (DOT) net>
>>>>>> To: "Slim Devices Discussion"
>>>>>> <discuss (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com>
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 8:33 PM
>>>>>> Subject: [slim] What about DVDs?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Eyehome can play the vobs... the trick is getting the audio to
>>>>>>> work.
>>>>>>> I can point to a VIDEO_TS directory and play the files and they
>>>>>>> look
>>>>>>> excellent - just silent.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've been messing with ffmpegx and it works though it's very slow -
>>>>>>> like hours to convert a vob. I am currently testing an Elmo video
>>>>>>> (11
>>>>>>> month old daughter) and want to have that kind of stuff accessible
>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>> addition to my own selections. I am really trying to find an
>>>>>>> easier
>>>>>>> way to do this and find the right balance between time and effort
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> the quality. My DVD collection is right next to the TV so I could
>>>>>>> watch a few movies before ripping the same number.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Oct 18, 2004, at 8:21 PM, anthony webb wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I just may have to get a mac! :-)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hey have you converted any vobs with ffmpegx? Great tutorial,
>>>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>> the link, I am just curious how long typical encoding runs? BTW,
>>>>>>>> any
>>>>>>>> chance
>>>>>>>> that eyehome will add vob support anytime soon?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>> From: "Jonathan Greene"
>>>>>>>> <atmasphere (AT) atmasphere (DOT) net>
>>>>>>>> To: "Slim Devices Discussion"
>>>>>>>> <discuss (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 11:14 AM
>>>>>>>> Subject: [slim] What about DVDs?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Just curious what you mean by Roku is a non-factor? I was under
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> impression you could do .vob through the free software they link
>>>>>>>>> to...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I've also been playing with an eyehome media player which
>>>>>>>>> connects
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> plays all your content on Mac (only) and works well with a few
>>>>>>>>> caveats...
>>>>>>>>> http://www.atmasphere.net/wp/archives/2004/10/17/mac-media- center
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Oct 18, 2004, at 10:59 AM, Jeff Fila wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Being a hardware reviewer who's passion is networked media
>>>>>>>>>> devices
>>>>>>>>>> like the Squeezebox, I'm always looking for such products.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Aside from your own home-built PC-based solution, there really
>>>>>>>>>> aren't
>>>>>>>>>> many (or any) options for playing VOBs. To this list it sounds
>>>>>>>>>> like a
>>>>>>>>>> great idea but to the average consumer, its just too much work
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> too
>>>>>>>>>> confusing for companies to spend money on developing such a
>>>>>>>>>> product
>>>>>>>>>> right now.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The Gateway Connected DVD player does a good job of playing
>>>>>>>>>> video -
>>>>>>>>>> but not VOBs. It does a great job of playing MPEG2 video and is
>>>>>>>>>> only
>>>>>>>>>> hampered by the limitations of the wireless network. This device
>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>> built by GoVideo and they have some good products in this
>>>>>>>>>> department.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ROKU is a non-factor here as are the other video products I have
>>>>>>>>>> seen.
>>>>>>>>>> I have reviewed the Actiontec Wireless Media Player and am now
>>>>>>>>>> working
>>>>>>>>>> on the On3 by FIA (which both use the same OS/front end) and
>>>>>>>>>> media
>>>>>>>>>> playback is limited and buggy.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> In speaking to developers and the president of ReQuest
>>>>>>>>>> Multimedia
>>>>>>>>>> recently, they all told me that basically since there are no
>>>>>>>>>> easy/good
>>>>>>>>>> ways of obtaining DVDs over the net, and that the process of
>>>>>>>>>> ripping
>>>>>>>>>> is too hard for the average consumer - not to mention viewed as
>>>>>>>>>> illegal by the MPAA - that manufacturers won't make a push for
>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>> quite a while.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I've been searching for quite a while for a project for a linux
>>>>>>>>>> distro
>>>>>>>>>> that can turn PC hardware into a set-top-box for audio,
>>>>>>>>>> pictures,
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> movies but there really isn't anything good around. MythTV and
>>>>>>>>>> KnoppMyth - the live CD based on it are OK but still need a lot
>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>> work IMO.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Jeff Fila
>>>>>>>>>> www.designtechnica.com
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 20:16:36 -0400, David Jameson
>>>>>>>>>> <david (AT) digiportal (DOT) com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Wow - quite a response - yes, I knew about the Hauppauge player
>>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>>> wasn't
>>>>>>>>>>> sure how good it was or if I could really use it with Linux.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On the other hand, I've had so much success with the hardware
>>>>>>>>>>> boxes
>>>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>>> SlimDevices that I hate to take my business elsewhere.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> D
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "P McDowell" <pmcdowell (AT) paradise (DOT) net.nz>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>> message news:ckipdo$2hb$1 (AT) sea (DOT) gmane.org...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "David Jameson" <david (AT) digiportal (DOT) com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>>> message news:ckhqld$4as$1 (AT) sea (DOT) gmane.org...
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now that I've got 4 of these SqueezeBoxes up and running in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>>>>>> house and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> eliminated my CD changer, I'd like to do the same thing for
>>>>>>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>>>>>> DVD
>>>>>>>>>>>>> collection.....is SlimDevices going to come out with a box
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>>>>>> stream video from a Linux server? If not, is there anything
>>>>>>>>>>>>> else
>>>>>>>>>>>>> out
>>>>>>>>>>>>> there that will?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> David Jameson
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> There is the Hauppauge MediaMVP
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.hauppauge.com/pages/products/data_mediamvp.html the
>>>>>>>>>>>> Prismiq
>>>>>>>>>>>> Media player, the D-
>>>>>>>>>>>> link DSM 320 etc
>>>>>>>>>>>> The MVP is the only one I know of that works with mythtv or
>>>>>>>>>>>> similar
>>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>> linux. It runs embedded linux itself
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>

Jonathan Greene
2004-10-21, 06:33
Have you find a way to but that amniocom box? Looks good, but does not
appear to be really on the market yet...


On Oct 21, 2004, at 7:26 AM, David Jameson wrote:

> I've found yet another product that apparently supports DVD video.
> http://www.aminocom.com/products/aminet110.html
>
> I found it through a reference in the opensource VideoLAN project
> (http://www.videolan.org/) that streams video and they indicate
> they've
> tested with that device.
>
> I understand why SlimDevices like most companies doesn't want to reveal
> future product plans but I wish they could indicate whether they will
> have a
> video streamer soon - I would be willing to wait a couple of months
> for it
> but I don't want to wait years.
>
> David
>
>
> "Jonathan Greene" <atmasphere (AT) atmasphere (DOT) net> wrote
> in message news:27A41848-22B0-11D9-AF18-000A95C47866 (AT) atmasphere (DOT) net...
>> I would imagine it could actually run on all platforms... there is
>> Zero-Conf (Apple's Rendezvous) for everyone, it'd just be a matter of
>> sharing content from standard locations based on type of device. I
>> can
>> already review photos from both my ~/Pictures directory as well as my
>> iPhoto library...
>>
>>
>> On Oct 20, 2004, at 11:15 AM, Michael Alletto wrote:
>>
>>> That eyehome player is really cool. Would love to see a version that
>>> runs on linux, or windows, no techinical reason its mac only except
>>> laziness. Since it runs on OSX, to get it to run on linux would be
>>> trivial if they would let the source code out into the public. I
>>> doubt there is any proprietary info there. It would even get them
>>> more sales if they did it.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 07:50:36 -0400, Jonathan Greene
>>> <atmasphere (AT) atmasphere (DOT) net> wrote:
>>>> You can scan forward and backward up to 4x, but it's a tad hokey.
>>>> It
>>>> does work though on the vobs as well as the other media in your
>>>> collection. The only negative (which they tell me is being worked
>>>> on)
>>>> is title suppression so you don't get the new track info as it
>>>> passes
>>>> the next vob files in a movie.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Oct 20, 2004, at 1:18 AM, anthony webb wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> WOOT! Hey, can you tell me how/if fast forward or skip is
>>>>> implimented?
>>>>> Does it work on the vobs? Sounds like I just might be getting a
>>>>> mac...
>>>>> Dang, wish they'd do a windows version of the server... sounds like
>>>>> that
>>>>> wont be happening anytime soon.
>>>>>
>>>>> Slim devices needs to find a way for this vob stuff... They'd have
>>>>> my
>>>>> $ in a
>>>>> heartbeat...
>>>>>
>>>>> -Anthony
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Jonathan Greene"
>>>>> <atmasphere (AT) atmasphere (DOT) net>
>>>>> To: "Slim Devices Discussion"
>>>>> <discuss (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com>
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 10:39 PM
>>>>> Subject: [slim] What about DVDs?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> OK - I have no idea what changed at home other than the addition
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> another VOIP box on my network, but suddenly .vob playback with
>>>>>> audio
>>>>>> is working and I am LOVING IT! I can use mactheripper (freeware)
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> backup a DVD and playback the video files in full quality with AC3
>>>>>> surround from my computer to my TV. This is totally cool...
>>>>>> Audio
>>>>>> support for AC3 is only there is you use the digital optical
>>>>>> connector
>>>>>> so keep that in mind if you are considering this as a setup. I've
>>>>>> tested video playback over both wired and wireless (airport
>>>>>> extreme)
>>>>>> machines. Files reside on both a connected Ximeta drive as well
>>>>>> as
>>>>>> external firewire drives and there are no issues to report with
>>>>>> playback quality or skipping.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Oct 19, 2004, at 12:17 AM, anthony webb wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> hmm, have you looked into the audio problem any? as far as I can
>>>>>>> tell
>>>>>>> vobs
>>>>>>> should play fine, it even says so in their faq
>>>>>>> (http://www.elgato.com/index.php?
>>>>>>> file=products_eyehome_faq#faq26) so
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> am
>>>>>>> wondering if you have a screwy vob file maybe?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is starting to look promising... Maybe
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Seriously keep us posted on the vob issue with eyehome...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Jonathan Greene"
>>>>>>> <atmasphere (AT) atmasphere (DOT) net>
>>>>>>> To: "Slim Devices Discussion"
>>>>>>> <discuss (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com>
>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 8:33 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: [slim] What about DVDs?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Eyehome can play the vobs... the trick is getting the audio to
>>>>>>>> work.
>>>>>>>> I can point to a VIDEO_TS directory and play the files and they
>>>>>>>> look
>>>>>>>> excellent - just silent.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I've been messing with ffmpegx and it works though it's very
>>>>>>>> slow -
>>>>>>>> like hours to convert a vob. I am currently testing an Elmo
>>>>>>>> video
>>>>>>>> (11
>>>>>>>> month old daughter) and want to have that kind of stuff
>>>>>>>> accessible
>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>> addition to my own selections. I am really trying to find an
>>>>>>>> easier
>>>>>>>> way to do this and find the right balance between time and
>>>>>>>> effort
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>> the quality. My DVD collection is right next to the TV so I
>>>>>>>> could
>>>>>>>> watch a few movies before ripping the same number.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Oct 18, 2004, at 8:21 PM, anthony webb wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I just may have to get a mac! :-)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hey have you converted any vobs with ffmpegx? Great tutorial,
>>>>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>> the link, I am just curious how long typical encoding runs?
>>>>>>>>> BTW,
>>>>>>>>> any
>>>>>>>>> chance
>>>>>>>>> that eyehome will add vob support anytime soon?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>> From: "Jonathan Greene"
>>>>>>>>> <atmasphere (AT) atmasphere (DOT) net>
>>>>>>>>> To: "Slim Devices Discussion"
>>>>>>>>> <discuss (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com>
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 11:14 AM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: [slim] What about DVDs?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Just curious what you mean by Roku is a non-factor? I was
>>>>>>>>>> under
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> impression you could do .vob through the free software they
>>>>>>>>>> link
>>>>>>>>>> to...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I've also been playing with an eyehome media player which
>>>>>>>>>> connects
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> plays all your content on Mac (only) and works well with a few
>>>>>>>>>> caveats...
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.atmasphere.net/wp/archives/2004/10/17/mac-media-
>>>>>>>>>> center
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 18, 2004, at 10:59 AM, Jeff Fila wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Being a hardware reviewer who's passion is networked media
>>>>>>>>>>> devices
>>>>>>>>>>> like the Squeezebox, I'm always looking for such products.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Aside from your own home-built PC-based solution, there
>>>>>>>>>>> really
>>>>>>>>>>> aren't
>>>>>>>>>>> many (or any) options for playing VOBs. To this list it
>>>>>>>>>>> sounds
>>>>>>>>>>> like a
>>>>>>>>>>> great idea but to the average consumer, its just too much
>>>>>>>>>>> work
>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>> too
>>>>>>>>>>> confusing for companies to spend money on developing such a
>>>>>>>>>>> product
>>>>>>>>>>> right now.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The Gateway Connected DVD player does a good job of playing
>>>>>>>>>>> video -
>>>>>>>>>>> but not VOBs. It does a great job of playing MPEG2 video and
>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>> only
>>>>>>>>>>> hampered by the limitations of the wireless network. This
>>>>>>>>>>> device
>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>> built by GoVideo and they have some good products in this
>>>>>>>>>>> department.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ROKU is a non-factor here as are the other video products I
>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>> seen.
>>>>>>>>>>> I have reviewed the Actiontec Wireless Media Player and am
>>>>>>>>>>> now
>>>>>>>>>>> working
>>>>>>>>>>> on the On3 by FIA (which both use the same OS/front end) and
>>>>>>>>>>> media
>>>>>>>>>>> playback is limited and buggy.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> In speaking to developers and the president of ReQuest
>>>>>>>>>>> Multimedia
>>>>>>>>>>> recently, they all told me that basically since there are no
>>>>>>>>>>> easy/good
>>>>>>>>>>> ways of obtaining DVDs over the net, and that the process of
>>>>>>>>>>> ripping
>>>>>>>>>>> is too hard for the average consumer - not to mention viewed
>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>> illegal by the MPAA - that manufacturers won't make a push
>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>> quite a while.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I've been searching for quite a while for a project for a
>>>>>>>>>>> linux
>>>>>>>>>>> distro
>>>>>>>>>>> that can turn PC hardware into a set-top-box for audio,
>>>>>>>>>>> pictures,
>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>> movies but there really isn't anything good around. MythTV
>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>> KnoppMyth - the live CD based on it are OK but still need a
>>>>>>>>>>> lot
>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>> work IMO.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Jeff Fila
>>>>>>>>>>> www.designtechnica.com
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 20:16:36 -0400, David Jameson
>>>>>>>>>>> <david (AT) digiportal (DOT) com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Wow - quite a response - yes, I knew about the Hauppauge
>>>>>>>>>>>> player
>>>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>>>> wasn't
>>>>>>>>>>>> sure how good it was or if I could really use it with Linux.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On the other hand, I've had so much success with the
>>>>>>>>>>>> hardware
>>>>>>>>>>>> boxes
>>>>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>>>> SlimDevices that I hate to take my business elsewhere.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> D
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "P McDowell" <pmcdowell (AT) paradise (DOT) net.nz>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>>> message news:ckipdo$2hb$1 (AT) sea (DOT) gmane.org...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "David Jameson" <david (AT) digiportal (DOT) com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> message news:ckhqld$4as$1 (AT) sea (DOT) gmane.org...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now that I've got 4 of these SqueezeBoxes up and running
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> house and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eliminated my CD changer, I'd like to do the same thing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DVD
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> collection.....is SlimDevices going to come out with a box
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stream video from a Linux server? If not, is there
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> else
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> out
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there that will?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David Jameson
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is the Hauppauge MediaMVP
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.hauppauge.com/pages/products/data_mediamvp.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Prismiq
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Media player, the D-
>>>>>>>>>>>>> link DSM 320 etc
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The MVP is the only one I know of that works with mythtv or
>>>>>>>>>>>>> similar
>>>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>>> linux. It runs embedded linux itself
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>

David Jameson
2004-10-21, 16:43
Yeah, you can get them from
http://www.vsicam.com/products/avn/aminet/aminet.html although they only
seem to have limited quantities.
I'd still rather get a video version of the SqueezeBox.

D



"Jonathan Greene" <atmasphere (AT) atmasphere (DOT) net> wrote
in message news:CFE423B5-2365-11D9-AD88-000A95C47866 (AT) atmasphere (DOT) net...
> Have you find a way to but that amniocom box? Looks good, but does not
> appear to be really on the market yet...
>
>
> On Oct 21, 2004, at 7:26 AM, David Jameson wrote:
>
>> I've found yet another product that apparently supports DVD video.
>> http://www.aminocom.com/products/aminet110.html
>>
>> I found it through a reference in the opensource VideoLAN project
>> (http://www.videolan.org/) that streams video and they indicate they've
>> tested with that device.
>>
>> I understand why SlimDevices like most companies doesn't want to reveal
>> future product plans but I wish they could indicate whether they will
>> have a
>> video streamer soon - I would be willing to wait a couple of months for
>> it
>> but I don't want to wait years.
>>
>> David
>>
>>
>> "Jonathan Greene" <atmasphere (AT) atmasphere (DOT) net>
>> wrote
>> in message
>> news:27A41848-22B0-11D9-AF18-000A95C47866 (AT) atmasphere (DOT) net...
>>> I would imagine it could actually run on all platforms... there is
>>> Zero-Conf (Apple's Rendezvous) for everyone, it'd just be a matter of
>>> sharing content from standard locations based on type of device. I can
>>> already review photos from both my ~/Pictures directory as well as my
>>> iPhoto library...
>>>
>>>
>>> On Oct 20, 2004, at 11:15 AM, Michael Alletto wrote:
>>>
>>>> That eyehome player is really cool. Would love to see a version that
>>>> runs on linux, or windows, no techinical reason its mac only except
>>>> laziness. Since it runs on OSX, to get it to run on linux would be
>>>> trivial if they would let the source code out into the public. I
>>>> doubt there is any proprietary info there. It would even get them
>>>> more sales if they did it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 07:50:36 -0400, Jonathan Greene
>>>> <atmasphere (AT) atmasphere (DOT) net> wrote:
>>>>> You can scan forward and backward up to 4x, but it's a tad hokey. It
>>>>> does work though on the vobs as well as the other media in your
>>>>> collection. The only negative (which they tell me is being worked
>>>>> on)
>>>>> is title suppression so you don't get the new track info as it passes
>>>>> the next vob files in a movie.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Oct 20, 2004, at 1:18 AM, anthony webb wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> WOOT! Hey, can you tell me how/if fast forward or skip is
>>>>>> implimented?
>>>>>> Does it work on the vobs? Sounds like I just might be getting a
>>>>>> mac...
>>>>>> Dang, wish they'd do a windows version of the server... sounds like
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> wont be happening anytime soon.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Slim devices needs to find a way for this vob stuff... They'd have
>>>>>> my
>>>>>> $ in a
>>>>>> heartbeat...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Anthony
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Jonathan Greene"
>>>>>> <atmasphere (AT) atmasphere (DOT) net>
>>>>>> To: "Slim Devices Discussion"
>>>>>> <discuss (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com>
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 10:39 PM
>>>>>> Subject: [slim] What about DVDs?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> OK - I have no idea what changed at home other than the addition of
>>>>>>> another VOIP box on my network, but suddenly .vob playback with
>>>>>>> audio
>>>>>>> is working and I am LOVING IT! I can use mactheripper (freeware)
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> backup a DVD and playback the video files in full quality with AC3
>>>>>>> surround from my computer to my TV. This is totally cool... Audio
>>>>>>> support for AC3 is only there is you use the digital optical
>>>>>>> connector
>>>>>>> so keep that in mind if you are considering this as a setup. I've
>>>>>>> tested video playback over both wired and wireless (airport
>>>>>>> extreme)
>>>>>>> machines. Files reside on both a connected Ximeta drive as well as
>>>>>>> external firewire drives and there are no issues to report with
>>>>>>> playback quality or skipping.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Oct 19, 2004, at 12:17 AM, anthony webb wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> hmm, have you looked into the audio problem any? as far as I can
>>>>>>>> tell
>>>>>>>> vobs
>>>>>>>> should play fine, it even says so in their faq
>>>>>>>> (http://www.elgato.com/index.php? file=products_eyehome_faq#faq26)
>>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>> am
>>>>>>>> wondering if you have a screwy vob file maybe?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This is starting to look promising... Maybe
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Seriously keep us posted on the vob issue with eyehome...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>> From: "Jonathan Greene"
>>>>>>>> <atmasphere (AT) atmasphere (DOT) net>
>>>>>>>> To: "Slim Devices Discussion"
>>>>>>>> <discuss (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 8:33 PM
>>>>>>>> Subject: [slim] What about DVDs?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Eyehome can play the vobs... the trick is getting the audio to
>>>>>>>>> work.
>>>>>>>>> I can point to a VIDEO_TS directory and play the files and they
>>>>>>>>> look
>>>>>>>>> excellent - just silent.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I've been messing with ffmpegx and it works though it's very
>>>>>>>>> slow -
>>>>>>>>> like hours to convert a vob. I am currently testing an Elmo
>>>>>>>>> video
>>>>>>>>> (11
>>>>>>>>> month old daughter) and want to have that kind of stuff
>>>>>>>>> accessible
>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>> addition to my own selections. I am really trying to find an
>>>>>>>>> easier
>>>>>>>>> way to do this and find the right balance between time and effort
>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>> the quality. My DVD collection is right next to the TV so I
>>>>>>>>> could
>>>>>>>>> watch a few movies before ripping the same number.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Oct 18, 2004, at 8:21 PM, anthony webb wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I just may have to get a mac! :-)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hey have you converted any vobs with ffmpegx? Great tutorial,
>>>>>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>> the link, I am just curious how long typical encoding runs?
>>>>>>>>>> BTW,
>>>>>>>>>> any
>>>>>>>>>> chance
>>>>>>>>>> that eyehome will add vob support anytime soon?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>> From: "Jonathan Greene"
>>>>>>>>>> <atmasphere (AT) atmasphere (DOT) net>
>>>>>>>>>> To: "Slim Devices Discussion"
>>>>>>>>>> <discuss (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com>
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 11:14 AM
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [slim] What about DVDs?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Just curious what you mean by Roku is a non-factor? I was
>>>>>>>>>>> under
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> impression you could do .vob through the free software they
>>>>>>>>>>> link
>>>>>>>>>>> to...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I've also been playing with an eyehome media player which
>>>>>>>>>>> connects
>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>> plays all your content on Mac (only) and works well with a few
>>>>>>>>>>> caveats...
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.atmasphere.net/wp/archives/2004/10/17/mac-media-
>>>>>>>>>>> center
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 18, 2004, at 10:59 AM, Jeff Fila wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Being a hardware reviewer who's passion is networked media
>>>>>>>>>>>> devices
>>>>>>>>>>>> like the Squeezebox, I'm always looking for such products.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Aside from your own home-built PC-based solution, there really
>>>>>>>>>>>> aren't
>>>>>>>>>>>> many (or any) options for playing VOBs. To this list it sounds
>>>>>>>>>>>> like a
>>>>>>>>>>>> great idea but to the average consumer, its just too much work
>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>> too
>>>>>>>>>>>> confusing for companies to spend money on developing such a
>>>>>>>>>>>> product
>>>>>>>>>>>> right now.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The Gateway Connected DVD player does a good job of playing
>>>>>>>>>>>> video -
>>>>>>>>>>>> but not VOBs. It does a great job of playing MPEG2 video and
>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>> only
>>>>>>>>>>>> hampered by the limitations of the wireless network. This
>>>>>>>>>>>> device
>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>> built by GoVideo and they have some good products in this
>>>>>>>>>>>> department.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> ROKU is a non-factor here as are the other video products I
>>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>>> seen.
>>>>>>>>>>>> I have reviewed the Actiontec Wireless Media Player and am now
>>>>>>>>>>>> working
>>>>>>>>>>>> on the On3 by FIA (which both use the same OS/front end) and
>>>>>>>>>>>> media
>>>>>>>>>>>> playback is limited and buggy.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> In speaking to developers and the president of ReQuest
>>>>>>>>>>>> Multimedia
>>>>>>>>>>>> recently, they all told me that basically since there are no
>>>>>>>>>>>> easy/good
>>>>>>>>>>>> ways of obtaining DVDs over the net, and that the process of
>>>>>>>>>>>> ripping
>>>>>>>>>>>> is too hard for the average consumer - not to mention viewed
>>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>>> illegal by the MPAA - that manufacturers won't make a push for
>>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>> quite a while.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I've been searching for quite a while for a project for a
>>>>>>>>>>>> linux
>>>>>>>>>>>> distro
>>>>>>>>>>>> that can turn PC hardware into a set-top-box for audio,
>>>>>>>>>>>> pictures,
>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>> movies but there really isn't anything good around. MythTV and
>>>>>>>>>>>> KnoppMyth - the live CD based on it are OK but still need a
>>>>>>>>>>>> lot
>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>> work IMO.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Jeff Fila
>>>>>>>>>>>> www.designtechnica.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 20:16:36 -0400, David Jameson
>>>>>>>>>>>> <david (AT) digiportal (DOT) com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wow - quite a response - yes, I knew about the Hauppauge
>>>>>>>>>>>>> player
>>>>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wasn't
>>>>>>>>>>>>> sure how good it was or if I could really use it with Linux.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On the other hand, I've had so much success with the hardware
>>>>>>>>>>>>> boxes
>>>>>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>>>>> SlimDevices that I hate to take my business elsewhere.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> D
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "P McDowell"
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <pmcdowell (AT) paradise (DOT) net.nz>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> message news:ckipdo$2hb$1 (AT) sea (DOT) gmane.org...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "David Jameson"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <david (AT) digiportal (DOT) com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message news:ckhqld$4as$1 (AT) sea (DOT) gmane.org...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now that I've got 4 of these SqueezeBoxes up and running in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> house and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eliminated my CD changer, I'd like to do the same thing for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DVD
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> collection.....is SlimDevices going to come out with a box
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stream video from a Linux server? If not, is there anything
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> else
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> out
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there that will?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David Jameson
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is the Hauppauge MediaMVP
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.hauppauge.com/pages/products/data_mediamvp.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Prismiq
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Media player, the D-
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> link DSM 320 etc
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The MVP is the only one I know of that works with mythtv or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> similar
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> linux. It runs embedded linux itself
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Ben Coombs
2004-11-09, 14:13
Have you looked at http://www.daemon-tools.cc/

it creates a virtual dvd/cd drive from an iso image file. You could
store iso images of dvds on your server, and map them using this tool.
Then use the software dvd player of your choice to play them. I asume
that if it's a resort you want it as simple as possible, people have
written plugins for deaemon tools, a web front end could be written to
mount these more easily, and then trigger the dvd player to start. I'm
unsure of the lisecencing laws though for doing something like this.