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Jason
2004-10-11, 14:29
I'm sure if you spent a lot of time and energy developing open sourced
software you would just be tickled to death if someone else took your
software to drive their own device which pays you nothing.

Maybe you like the idea of folks having a great time working for other folks
gain, the least Roku could do is give Slim some credit for developing such
great software.

And no, I'm not British or French but thanks for playing.

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[mailto:discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com] On Behalf Of Roger Mitchell
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 1:36 AM
To: 'Slim Devices Discussion'
Subject: [slim] Squeezebox vs. SoundBridge - reviews anywhere?

Everything was going well until you got to the last 2 sentences. The comment
about Roku - what possible use was that??! With that attitude you must be
either British or French. Get real, people use other peoples ideas all the
time. It's the way the world works!

Regards
Roger, UK

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[mailto:discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com] On Behalf Of Jason
Sent: 11 October 2004 04:43
To: 'Slim Devices Discussion'
Subject: [slim] Squeezebox vs. SoundBridge - reviews anywhere?

The only way for Soundbridge to get Squeezebox type function is by them
latching on to the Slim Server software. Slim Server does not support the
Soundbridge so if you want full compatibility, guarentee of plugins working,
future proofing, etc, you are pretty much on your own.

The other way the Soundbridge works is through iTunes. One additional
thing, Roku does not pay Slim Devices a red cent for their use of Slim
Server and does not even give them any credit for developing it. In my
opinion this makes them wankers and I would not give them any of my money.

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[mailto:discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com] On Behalf Of Oscar Fowler
Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2004 4:52 PM
To: discuss (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com
Subject: [slim] Squeezebox vs. SoundBridge - reviews anywhere?

I'm looking for some comparisons between the two devices. I currently have
a Squeezebox which I'm quite happy with, but I was thinking of getting a
second device for another room in the house, and the look of the SoundBridge
would work better there. I'm not willing to sacrifice on functionality,
though. Comments?

Simon Oosthoek
2004-10-11, 23:46
On Tue, Oct 12, 2004 at 12:09:38AM +0100, Roger Mitchell wrote:
> Oh come on Jason......!!
>
> No - I don't like the idea of folks gaining from other peoples work and I
> agree that in a perfect world they would be giving credit (and money!) to
> Slim, or someone, or the many, many, people that have made slimserver work;
> or whatever! Our poor friend Oscar asked for a comparison of the 2 products,
> not for a moral standpoint. What about the thousands of people who download
> music illegally, or copy software (yes, even Microsoft's overpriced
> software!). That's life! Its full of people (of all races), stealing from
> others, freewheeling, claiming benefits their not entitled too, succeeding
> off the backs of others. Etc, etc!!

I know this is off topic, but I just want to say that I think you shouldn't
use the word "stealing" when you actally mean "copying" and "using without
paying for it". Stealing implies depriving the rightful owner of its use...

Basing a product on open source software you didn't write and didn't pay for
is a bit closer to stealing, but this is the way open source works, so not
much to do about it.

Anyway, FWIW, the openness of slimdevices was my reason for spending 100
euro's more for a similar device (compared to the cd30/c100?), I feel a lot
better about where my money is going.

Cheers

Simon

seanadams
2004-10-12, 00:32
Indeed, no "stealing" is happening. Just bad business and knock-off
engineering.

The fact is, we would embrace additional hardware support for
SlimServer if said vendor wanted to help us propel the software
further. Currently, Roku's products simply take unilaterally from the
open source effort in a way that benefits neither their customers, nor
the advancement of the technology for anyone else.

Caveat emptor.



> I know this is off topic, but I just want to say that I think you
> shouldn't
> use the word "stealing" when you actally mean "copying" and "using
> without
> paying for it". Stealing implies depriving the rightful owner of its
> use...
>
> Basing a product on open source software you didn't write and didn't
> pay for
> is a bit closer to stealing, but this is the way open source works, so
> not
> much to do about it.
>
> Anyway, FWIW, the openness of slimdevices was my reason for spending
> 100
> euro's more for a similar device (compared to the cd30/c100?), I feel
> a lot
> better about where my money is going.
>
> Cheers
>
> Simon
>