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bitstreams
2011-10-29, 13:39
I have now downloaded an installed Squeeze Commander for my HTC Desire and so I finally have album art being displayed in the Spotify App.

This was the last major obstacle to me trying to replace the Squeezebox Controller, which is nice but just too fiddly to use.

So the next stage is to buy an Android 7" tablet (10" is just too big), which I can hopefully mount in a charging stand next to the hi-fi and have the Squeezebox Commander App loaded to control Spotify.

Does anyone out there already have this sort of setup?

1) Will Squeeze Commander work on a 7" tablet?
2) Can I stop the tablet screen saving?
3) Do I have to keep the Squeeze Controller?

flattermann
2011-10-29, 15:09
1.) It depends a bit on the actual 7" device, but yes, SqueezeCommander should run fine on it.
I'm using a Galaxy Tab 7" here and I can really recommend it.

2.) You can disable the Screen timeout within SqueezeCommander (Settings/Keep Screen On).
Furthermore, most Android devices have an option to keep the screen on while connected to the power supply.
I'm not sure if some kind of "burn in" is still an issue with modern screens, but that may be a problem if you keep the screen running 24/7 for several months...

3.) You probably do not really need the Controller anymore. Only if you have the SB Receiver as well, you may need it for re-running the setup of the Receiver. (Depending on your Android device, you could replace it with my SqueezeConfig App.)
And of course, you could use the Controller as a second mobile remote control.

Edit: There are some issues with Triode's Spotify plugin at the moment, but they will be fixed in the next SqueezeCommander version.

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rcampbel3
2011-10-29, 18:27
I have a rooted nook color running cyanogenmod 7.1 that fits the bill nicely. Ithanks to bluegaspode, it can also be a squeeze device itself, however the speaker in the nook is amemic at best.

A 7" android tablet at $200 with decent, loud stereo speakers and a kickstand would be a geeat frontend to LMS as a "squeezebox" -- even without DLNA

I think logitech could even SELL one.

Android-based device about the size of radio, successor to touch, 7" touchscreen, stereo speakers built in, support for video streaming from LMS, alarm clock run as local android app, would be great.

bitstreams
2011-10-30, 08:11
I can't get the Nook in the UK (unless I import it). The P1000 Samsung 7" is attractive, but the spec is getting a little old. Will SqueezeCommander work on Android 3.2 Honeycomb? If it will, then the Acer Iconia A100 looks a possibility.

Stoker
2011-10-31, 06:31
The Archos 80 G9 is starting to become available in the UK for around 200. Looks like an interesting device runs Android 3.2.

c-eling
2011-10-31, 07:04
works great on my acer iconia a500,i posted a pic on the forum about a month ago
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=19817&page=114

slate
2011-10-31, 08:45
works great on my acer iconia a500,i posted a pic on the forum about a month ago
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=19817&page=114

Nice; playing Cocteau Twins's "Heaven or Las Vegas"

A bit reluctant to go for a tablet myself; simply buying one to use it as a glorified remote.... but now that they are getting cheaper and a nice selection of 5-7" tablets are appearing it is tempting.
Another problem is that it becomes blatantly visible when it is the wrong cover, etc..

rbz5416
2011-10-31, 11:50
I've got Squeeze Commander running on an Archos 101 without issues so should run just fine on the 7". Should be some deals around now the G9 is imminent. HMV have been selling the 101 for 129.

bitstreams
2011-11-02, 00:56
I went with a refurbished Galaxy Tab P1000 (7") in the end. It's not here yet so will test it in the next couple of days.
I hope it will be more than a glorified remote. I have ordered an HDMI dock as well so that I can stream to the TV (perhaps) and it'll get good use for sofa-browsing I expect.

rbz5416
2011-11-02, 03:06
I went with a refurbished Galaxy Tab P1000 (7") in the end. It's not here yet so will test it in the next couple of days.
I hope it will be more than a glorified remote. I have ordered an HDMI dock as well so that I can stream to the TV (perhaps) and it'll get good use for sofa-browsing I expect.Mind if I ask how much & where from?

bitstreams
2011-11-03, 12:16
Don't mind you asking at all. I got it as a used purchase from Amazon UK - 1 month old with a case - 245 including postage. I did look on ebay but there wasn't much in it nd Amazon felt safer.

Atlantic
2011-11-03, 12:32
Do these smaller devices - 7" - usually have a USB port? A (normal) USB port that could take a USB soundcard and so both 'send' stereo sound to a HiFi, as well as 'receive' analogue for conversion to digital? I've used Squeezeslave successfully on a netbook with a USB soundcard, but a tablet would be simpler/smaller.

(Must have been asked before, so apologies if a repeat but, as an earlier poster suggested, this type of device could really be very, very, good.)

regards, Atlantic

JJZolx
2011-11-03, 12:43
Just saw a Nook Color being sold on the local Craigslist for $120. Tough to beat that.

bitstreams
2011-11-03, 13:53
Do these smaller devices - 7" - usually have a USB port? A (normal) USB port that could take a USB soundcard and so both 'send' stereo sound to a HiFi, as well as 'receive' analogue for conversion to digital?

Someone will probably contradict me in a minute, but I can't see how this would work unless the device were running Windows/Linux. I don't think (but may be corrected) that Android devices have device drivers for things like USB sound cards. You'd have to go for a Windows tablet I think for that and I don't recall any 7" ones.

Simon

rbz5416
2011-11-03, 14:37
Don't mind you asking at all. I got it as a used purchase from Amazon UK - 1 month old with a case - 245 including postage. I did look on ebay but there wasn't much in it nd Amazon felt safer.Thanks.

rbz5416
2011-11-03, 14:40
Do these smaller devices - 7" - usually have a USB port? The Archos 70 does but it's mainly for media with only a few peripherals supported. It also has HDMI but I don't know if audio is output from that when there's no video playing.

maggior
2011-11-03, 14:50
I don't think (but may be corrected) that Android devices have device drivers for things like USB sound cards. You'd have to go for a Windows tablet I think for that and I don't recall any 7" ones.
Simon

That's correct, but I wouldn't count on a Windows tablet having the drivers either.

The Motorola Xoom (and possibly others) will act as a USB host with the proper adapter. At the moment, unless you run a customer kernel (aka root) on the Xoom, the only thing you can use it for is mouse or keyboard. There are custom kernels that support storage devices connected via USB. I've seen the question about support for USB sound cards in Andriod come up in various forums. It may take a while, but somebody is probably working on it.

Atlantic
2011-11-03, 15:31
I can't see how this would work unless the device were running Windows/Linux. I don't think (but may be corrected) that Android devices have device drivers for things like USB sound cards. You'd have to go for a Windows tablet I think for that and I don't recall any 7" ones.



Oh. I hadn't realised that Android wasn't Linux - I'd simply assumed it was.


At the moment, unless you run a customer kernel (aka root) ..., the only thing you can use it for is mouse or keyboard.
...
I've seen the question about support for USB sound cards in Android come up in various forums. It may take a while, but somebody is probably working on it.

I guess tablets work so well because they have a reduced OS, running in ROM; that's understandable. I hadn't realised that Android was (potentially) this limited (I knew nothing about it, really, so thanks for the info). The netbook I used - and I was pretty impressed, actually - was running Linux (Fedora); I think until tablets can run a stock linux - albeit with extra drivers/apps added from repositories - it's perhaps better to wait.

But the idea, of using a 7" tablet with those capabilities as the media delivery system to a HiFi, is compelling.

Thanks, both, for the input. Regards, Atlantic

elision
2011-11-07, 03:40
I bought a cheap (70 ~$110) 7" Android 2.2 tablet from Amazon in the UK.

It runs SqueezeCommander perfectly well and I'm very happy with the whole set up for very little outlay.

Elision.

flattermann
2011-11-07, 04:42
I bought a cheap (70 ~$110) 7" Android 2.2 tablet from Amazon in the UK.

It runs SqueezeCommander perfectly well and I'm very happy with the whole set up for very little outlay.

Elision.

Good to hear that!

Could you please post a link to the Tablet on Amazon?
Maybe other users are interested as well...

castalla
2011-11-07, 05:00
I bought a smartq v5 a couple of years ago - runs a linux and Android. I was really impressed - especially with Radiotime (aka Tunein).

Then, I foolishly and unwaringly left it plugged in on the mains (to save battery use) ... and after 2 days the battery slowly exploded. A replacement is a real pain - so I cut out the ballooned battery and just run it via the mains - but that sort of defeats the purpose of a semi-mobile device.

So, beware cheap units where you can't change the battery easily. But then tablets with replaceable batteries aren't cheap either!

anjenaire
2011-11-07, 13:57
As a lark, I took the HDMI output from my tablet's docking station (ViewSonic G-Tablet 10" POS) and feed that through this device: 4X1 HDMI 1.3b Certified Switcher w/ Toslink & Digital Coaxial Port (Rev.2) w/ 3D support (http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=101&cp_id=10110&cs_id=1011002&p_id=5557&seq=1&format=2), $US44 and coupled that with SqueezePlayer App (http://www.appbrain.com/app/squeeze-player/de.bluegaspode.squeezeplayer), $US5 and took the TOSLink Optical out to my AVR receiver and I was able to get a decent sound to the receiver. Essentially a very expensive and large Squeeze Touch. Works in a pinch, nice to have at a party (I am using SqueezeCommander to control it) although I like having my dedicated wifi remote.

This was my solution since the USB sound card was not supported. YMMV.

elision
2011-11-08, 00:59
Good to hear that!

Could you please post a link to the Tablet on Amazon?
Maybe other users are interested as well...

Sure, Flatterman; it's

http://www.amazon.co.uk/NATPC-M009S-Google-Android-Tablet/dp/B004RAN7VI/ref=pd_cp_computers_4

rbz5416
2011-11-16, 05:19
I've just sold on my Archos 101 as it was a bit too unwieldy, especially in the 16:9 format. Not sure what to do for a replacement. This looks like it may be interesting for an Android remote for those that have no other use for a tablet:

http://www.archos.com/products/ah/archos_35_shp/index.html?country=gb&lang=en

flattermann
2011-11-16, 15:36
I've just sold on my Archos 101 as it was a bit too unwieldy, especially in the 16:9 format. Not sure what to do for a replacement. This looks like it may be interesting for an Android remote for those that have no other use for a tablet:

http://www.archos.com/products/ah/archos_35_shp/index.html?country=gb&lang=en

Yeah, the Archos 101 is not really good.
I also have one (and a 2.8" Archos), but I virtually never use it, because of the crap sreen and the very, very poor battery.

I really like my GalaxyTabs (7" and 10" ). They are a bit more expensive but indefinitely better. :-)

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